="Dan_473, post: 3630454, member: 190874"]hi Studyman,
Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
I am not ashamed that I believe what is written in the Bible, but don't believe in much of Mainstream Doctrine. The preaching that the Pharisees were trying to obey God, or that Jesus taught differently as a man than He did as the Word, etc. etc., are all very popular teachings in mainstream Christianity. But the Word of God exposes them as untrue. It isn't the truth we believe that can hurt us, it is the lies we believe and preach that cause the problems. I am not ashamed that I see this, and it isn't my fault that you don't.
I can't help what the mind of man conjures up to defend and protect their religious doctrines from the Word's of God. I know there are several on this forum who have come to the same conclusions as I have. Are we all deceived into believing we have ""personal revelations from God", or is it that some folks listen and believe in Every Word which proceeds from God, and some folks don't.
I am not the only one that believes in the Bible over man made religious tradition. There are many on this forum who have come to the same conclusion as I have. Not to mention Paul and Jesus who also understood the evils of man made traditions. The difference between them and you, it seems, is that you are desperate to preserve your own religious belief, while others simply let the Word's of the Christ
determine their belief.
The Mainstream Preachers of Christ's time did the exact same thing to Jesus. He didn't teach anything different that what their Bible already told them. He just pointed out the Word which exposed them.
Some took heed, considered the prophesies. But most, as is the custom of natural man, resented the Word's and took their resentment out on the messenger. This example started with Cain and is present through out the entire Bible. Shall I be ashamed because I, and others on this forum, can understand this truth and you can't or won't?
Everyone on this forum prophesies Dan. The serpent prophesied to Eve. The devil prophesied to Jesus. The Pharisees prophesied for centuries. You prophesy and so do I.
How can we know what spirit is directing the prophesy?? Once more, if a person believes in the Word which became Flesh, He provides the answer to this question. All that is left is for man to believe it. Shall I be ashamed because I believe these Word's and you don't?
KJV Is. 8:
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,
it is because
there is no light in them.
Webster's Bible Translation
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
New Living Translation
Look to God's instructions and teachings! People who contradict his word are completely in the dark.
It seems Jesus was very concerned about the God of Abraham preaching people of His time. "Take heed", "Beware" of what Dan?
Prophesies right?
And what was Prophesied about the Christ?
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
This was the Prophesy given by the Law and the Testimony. Should we believe this or not?
22 Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord:
this shall not be unto thee.
Was Peter Prophesying? Absolutely Dan. Did Jesus just let Peter have this lie in his mind? No!!!!! Why not Dan? Could it be because Jesus knows that a Little Leaven, Leavens the whole lump? Could it be because Jesus knows where EVERY LIE comes from?
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter,
Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest
not the things that be of God,
but those that be of men.
Surely you must consider this question: "What if the Word of God is truth"?
again, if one just quotes scriptures, there is no question.
But if one adds their own commentary, then they are no longer saying "just what the Bible says".
And the Lord said to me: Take thee a great book, and write in it with a man's pen. Take sway the spoils with speed, quickly take the prey.
2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses, Urias the priest, and Zacharias the son of Barachias.
3 And I went to the prophetess, and she conceived, and bore a son. And the Lord said to me: Call his name, Hasten to take away the spoils: Make haste to take away the prey.
4 For before the child know to call his father and his mother, the strength of Damascus, and the spoils of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of the Assyrians.
5 And the Lord spoke to me again, saying:
6 Forasmuch as this people hath cast away the waters of Siloe, that go with silence, and hath rather taken Basin, and the son of Romelia:
7 Therefore behold the Lord will bring upon them the waters of the river strong and many, the king of the Assyrians, and all his glory: and he shall come up over all his channels, and shall overflow all his banks,
8 And shall pass through Juda, overflowing, and going over shall reach even to the neck. And the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Emmanuel.
9 Gather yourselves together, O ye people, and be overcome, and give ear, all ye lands afar off: strengthen yourselves, and be overcome, gird yourselves, and be overcome.
10 Take counsel together, and it shall be defeated: speak a word, and it shall not be done: because God is with us.
11 For thus saith the Lord to me: As he hath taught me, with a strong arm, that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
12 Say ye not: A conspiracy: for all that this people speaketh, is a conspiracy: neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.
13 Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself: and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14 And he shall be a sanctification to you. But for a stone or stumbling, and for a rock of offence to the two houses of Israel, for a snare and a ruin to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15 And very many of them shall stumble and fall, and shall be broken in pieces, and shall be snared, and taken.
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
17 And I will wait for the Lord, who hath hid his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
18 Behold I and my children, whom the Lord hath given me for a sign, and for a wonder in Israel from the Lord of hosts, who dwelleth in mount Sion.
19 And when they shall say to you: Seek of pythons, and of diviners, who mutter in their enchantments: should not the people seek of their God, for the living of the dead?
20 To the law rather, and to the testimony. And if they speak not according to this word, they shall not have the morning light.
21 And they shall pass by it, they shall fall, and be hungry: and when they shall be hungry, they will be angry, and curse their king, and their God, and look upwards.
22 And they shall look to the earth, and behold trouble and darkness, weakness and distress, and a mist following them, and they cannot fly away from their distress.
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