A Study on the Kingdom of God

forget it

you won't get an honest answer from him

he just either changes what he says or changes what he asks depending on the responses that he gets

he obviously fancies himself a teacher, correcting responses or handing praise when one agrees with him and no doubt this thread is started with, as you say, his actual agenda in mind which did not really fly in the other thread

however, this is not original teaching. he is getting it somewhere, agreeing with it and 'blessing' the forum here but he does not seem to know that this 'kingdom now' message has already been well discussed...no harm in discussing it again...but you get nowhere when trying to talk to someone is like trying to nail jello to the wall

The Kingdom now / Dominion now is unbiblical. which we will prove in this forum

Jesus stated in Luke 4:43 that his purpose was not to die on the cross or give his life for the ransom of many, or spill his blood, but to preach the Kingdom of God.

Luke 4:43 I must go to the other towns also to preach the Kingdom of God, for this is the reason/purpose I have come.


You are twisting my words I said non of those above,

forget it

you won't get an honest answer from him

he just either changes what he says or changes what he asks depending on the responses that he gets

he obviously fancies himself a teacher, correcting responses or handing praise when one agrees with him and no doubt this thread is started with, as you say, his actual agenda in mind which did not really fly in the other thread

however, this is not original teaching. he is getting it somewhere, agreeing with it and 'blessing' the forum here but he does not seem to know that this 'kingdom now' message has already been well discussed...no harm in discussing it again...but you get nowhere when trying to talk to someone is like trying to nail jello to the wall

7seasrekeyed I Missed you.

Jesus stated in Luke 4:43 that his purpose was not to die on the cross or give his life for the ransom of many, or spill his blood, but to preach the Kingdom of God.

Luke 4:43 I must go to the other towns also to preach the Kingdom of God, for this is the reason/purpose I have come.


You are twisting my words I said non of those above,

I don't think he is Kingdom Now. His source says the kingdom is not yet and will start with the millennial reign when Jesus returns. Instead, I see him contradicting the Gospel authors who did focus on Jesus as the main theme of their Gospel accounts.

right. I just used that phrase...there are many to describe what the teaching is and enough nuances etc to create a different name

the emphasis is not in the right place at any rate and you sure are correct when you say he contradicts the Gospels and in the other thread, Paul did not teach what Jesus taught according to him. but he went back and forth on that too

read what he wrote about why Jesus came to earth. not to die for our sins apparently.

The Kingdom now / Dominion now is unbiblical. which we will prove in this forum

Jesus dying on the cross was a means to an end. It was not why he came, according to Luke 4:43 see scripture qouted above.

no you are twisting what Jesus said and in a very harmful way

how do you enter the kingdom of God? can you do it on your own or did someone have to die in your place?

you are getting bolder in your actual beliefs here and entering the realm of heresy if you believe there is any kingdom of God without Jesus sacrificing his life for us

Jesus did not mean what you are saying. your views are not what Jesus taught

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

God sent His Son to die in our place for our sins. If you do not believe that, and because of what you said in the post I am responding to I am not really sure that you do, then you are not saved

Yes Jesus came to die for our sins. That is bible school 101.
But read the scripture Luke 4.43 (take note that is in his own words)

Jesus dying on the cross was a means to an end. It was not why he came, according to Luke 4:43 see scripture qouted above.

Church of God apparently

their main emphasis is on the 'kingdom of God' so that explains the 'teaching'

ok well now that I know, I'll not bother because as I stated already, it's just a waste and trying to get a straight answer from an indoctrinated individual trying to indoctrinate anyone who responds is not very fruitful

took awhile to get the truth of the matter though but the pdf gave it away

like speaking to the Sabbath Keepers who fancy themselves more Jewish than Jews or the Adventists or whoever else has all the truth and nothing but the truth and desires to straighten out the rest of us

I won't be hanging around here either. I come to Christian Chat Bible Discussions Forum to discuss, not to be taught by a person trying to school me in his own beliefs with no credentials and having only become a member yesterday. I will turn to the Holy Spirit for my teaching, as well as my local pastor. I will come here to help flesh out more information/views on questions that God is bringing to my mind to further my growth.

The Golden Question is how do we seek his kingdom and his righteous in a wicked and adulterous generation.