Women Pastors for women?

Incidentally sorry if I have said things to you to hurt you.
You really do need to chill though and get to know this place and
the people on it and stop stomping up and down!

Who knows maybe you will even get to likes us, even the women!

Let me make something perfectly clear Miri, I have no doubt that you intentionally baited me with the pedicure statement. A pedicure is something administered by someone who is either trustworthy as a professional or trustworthy as someone close to you. I have no doubt you knew exactly what you were doing. The entire time you have disagreed with my standpoint which is 100% scriptural incidentally on these matters regarding women in leadership positions. You may feel that things should be different but God placed things the way that he wanted. Jesus could have left the first century Church with any set of instructions that he's so desired as long as the father approved. In Any case you have desperately trying to villainize me and even so far is trying to imply that a foot massage is somehow perverted. With this line of thinking it is no doubt that you would probably find Jesus washing the disciples feet some sort of homosexual act as well. I'm not the one in this situation who has the problem. I have stood on the word of God and on my testimony and was subsequently attacked and ridiculed by you and Joe fizz. If I see Jezebel characteristics beginning to emerge I will certainly call it out. But in no way am I any sort of a pervert as you have suggested nor is my walk with God any less sincere because I like women. I do appreciate your apology but make no mistake you know exactly what you were doing the whole time and so did Joe. The venomous attack on me personally certainly did not result from any unction of the Holy Spirit and I can assure you that any of my comments relative to the original post topic we're not venomous at all butter based on biblical truth. I am done commenting on this post and lament that I ever went past scriptural references.

So you are saying it is only to be used in a ritual to glorify god with people who have no clue what it means? Have you read acts?

The church is also in peril because countless male leaders (only God knows the exact number) have misused and abused their authority.There are plenty newsworthy examples of men misusing and abusing their power and position.

West Orange pastor pleads guilty to money laundering and insurance fraud
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mycentraljersey.com/amp/692567002

Former Tri-City pastor pleads guilty 1 year after being nabbed in child sex sting
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article214030814.html

Ex-pastor's texts will play into sentencing on sex crime
http://mailtribune.com/news/crime-c...be-sentenced-in-august-for-hidden-camera-case

Former pastor sentenced to seven years
http://www.duncanbanner.com/news/fo...cle_4a8d4efe-74f9-11e8-8bf3-5febd472b9f9.html

A Toronto Pastor Has Been Sentenced To Prison For Sex Crimes
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.na...r-has-been-sentenced-to-prison-for-sex-crimes

These are just a few recent headlines about male pastors misusing and abusing their power and position. I intend to post more examples as time permits.

You talk about rebellious women in the West. The Western church is also full of rebellious men misbehaving and setting a bad example.

BTW, I’m not posting these links for Bsorh. I highly doubt that anything I say will change Bsorh's mind. Likewise, Bsorh's is not likely going to change or affect my views. With that being said, I’m posting these examples for others on this forum who may be interested in reading. The are a lot of threads and posts on the bdf about women's role. However, I also want to raise awareness about this problem in the church. Countless men (only God knows the exact number) in ministry position abusing their power, title and setting a bad example for the world to see. That’s a problem that you won't find too many Authoritarians, Comps or Patriarchy supporters highlighting.

Why do people that don't speak in tongues constantly attack those of us who do. If you don't fine. leave us alone that do. It is not our job to explain the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Speaking against it is not going to change anyone, so why bother. Everyone has to answer for the way they believe. You don't answer for me and I don't answer for you. Quit kicking the sleeping dog.

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Aw well I guess the attacks and name calling continue then and to think I
started to feel a bit sorry for you when you said you were lonely.

I guess my first instinct was correct then.

Yeah I mean we are all brothers and sisters are in Christ we can get along pretty good if we "try" sure we may disagree or get mad at times but hey none of us is perfect!

Incidentally re the comment about the pedicure, it was not directed at you. It was in
response to an amusing comment made by another poster as you well know.
But somehow you felt the need to send me a private message about being
good at foot massages. I except we all make errors of judgement. I except
I have my faults too, but I dont blame others for my lack of judgement.
Clearly you do!

Why do people that don't speak in tongues constantly attack those of us who do. If you don't fine. leave us alone that do. It is not our job to explain the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Speaking against it is not going to change anyone, so why bother. Everyone has to answer for the way they believe. You don't answer for me and I don't answer for you. Quit kicking the sleeping dog.

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i have no idea what's happening in here.

i have no problem listening to a man or woman preach the Word as long as it is exegetical.

are we talking about that? no? oh well.

Yes, actually we are talking about that. Some of us. Me personally, I think the preaching and teaching is permitted to women, just not authority. Otherwise she would be barred from teaching her own kids even. As far as leadership, there is permissible will, and perfect will of God. Imho the church is lazy and we value 'customizing' over Joshua level obedience. I'm fact, if the church spent as much time repenting instead of negotiating how to keep sinning or how to squeeze PC into the Gospel we would have global revival!

Yes, actually we are talking about that. Some of us. Me personally, I think the preaching and teaching is permitted to women, just not authority.

The contempt is from you! You broad stroke every woman as your inferior and assume we're all Jezebels. Miri understands her role much better than you understand yours. (You should have found out who Miri is, instead of who she isn't.)

And from where I'm seated, that can't even be hard, since you assume your role is to school us poor women.

And to think we have no authority to worship God? I think I can name your spirit now. Satan!

Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1Co 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

It says men concerning wisdom from God, but we know it means all people, and we need not that any man teach us but the Spirit will teach us, although many need to hear the word to know about it in certain areas before the Spirit will teach them, and there is neither male nor female in the Lord, which means the gender of the flesh, so how is either greater than the other, for not even the flesh can determine greater than the other.

I do not mind a woman preaching the Bible to me for she might know more about the Bible than me, and I do not look at it as men have authority over women, and the women cannot say anything to them, if they are equal in the Lord.

But I do believe when the saints come together to worship God, and hear the word of God, a man should take the lead, but in that instance, and all the other saints, men and women equal, and if the pastor says to a woman you have something to say, speak on, she should be able to say what she wants to say, for she is not going above his authority, and it would seem when the pastor is done having the floor and turns it over to the saints that all can contribute whether men or women, for God will pour out His Spirit on all flesh, men and women, and they will all prophesy.

Some say no woman should teach a man, but then there are many women on this sight teaching men, for their posts, and interpretations is for both men and women, and nobody has a problem with that as far as I know.

My judgement is just fine. I did NOTHING wrong. If you have some sort of foot obsession that is totally your problem. You read entirely too much into what I said and how. And I won't be alone one day longer than God allows. He provides for my needs but he certainly has his work cut out with all the rebellious, back biting, fakes out here!

Why do people that don't speak in tongues constantly attack those of us who do. If you don't fine. leave us alone that do. It is not our job to explain the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Speaking against it is not going to change anyone, so why bother. Everyone has to answer for the way they believe. You don't answer for me and I don't answer for you. Quit kicking the sleeping dog.

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