OSAS= House Built on Sand

You mean that sanctifying faith when one hears the Holy Ghost?

(If one believes that the world was framed by the the word of God then if the things which are seen were not made of things which do appear then why would in the world would they believe that hearing comes from the word of God that is seen. I guess it is like Jesus said about sinners not knowing that they don't even know liken to that which is written in Matthew 12:22, for judgement so that they which see not might see and those that see might be made blind. Or maybe that John 9:39)

d.....,
You can repeat this...... bovine residue....all you wish. That does not make it biblical, because it is not.

Jesus said the 99 who were with the Shepherd were just, and needed no repentance.


The 1 sheep who was lost, became unjust, a sinner in need of repentance.

Couldn’t be any clearer.


JPT

Why am I not surprised.

Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye [pharisees and scribes] are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Notice Jesus told them they justify themselves before men … not that God justified them or that they have any interest in justifying themselves before God.

You want to believe they were just after seeing what the Lord Jesus Christ said about them in Luke 16:15 (the summation of the parables He taught in Luke 15)???

Have at it.

It is Paul’s and analogy not mine.
So run, that we may obtain. Keeping under our body, and bringing it into subjection: lest that by any means, when we have preached to others, we ourselves should be a castaway.


Paul says not me Romans in 6:23 The Gift of GOD is Life Eternal IN Christ Jesus.

Who we running in that we may obtain? Salvation is IN Christ and IN Him alone. The Gift is unity with Christ so that we may run in Him; bringing our body under subjection to the Spirit through Him that we ourselves are not a castaway and may obtain eternal life through life eternal; knowing GOD the Father and He whom HE sent. Knowing the FATHER. We and THEM together as ONE; the Body of Christ the Temple of GOD. Christ in the FATHER and we in Him that the world might believe!

Notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10).

Some people misunderstand verse 9 to mean that we must confess each sin that we commit as we commit them (keep a specific inventory) as an additional requirement to remain cleansed and if we forget a sin we are toast!

1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

*Walking in darkness is descriptive of children of the devil. Walking in the light is descriptive of children of God. Only those who are saved/believers are in the light.

Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.

2 Corinthians 6:14 - Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

Ephesians 5:8 - for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light. Children of the devil walk in darkness, not in the light. Children of God walk in the light, not in darkness. IF confirms these positions in verses 6 and 7. It's one or the other.

In 1 John 2:9, we read - He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. In vs. 11 - But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

*Compare with 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, (compare with 1 John 1:6 - does not practice the truth) nor is he who does not love his brother.

*Notice that walks in darkness, hates his brother is descriptive of children of the devil.

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.
Luke 15:4-7


Jesus said the 99 were just and need no repentance.

He did not say the “justify themselves”.

Jesus said the one one became lost was a sinner that needed repentance.


Just read what Jesus said.


Please teach God’s people what is right and true.


You are not loving God or His people when you don’t teach the truth of what Jesus plainly taught.

His Sheep are those who hear His Voice and follow along with Him.


Those of His sheep who wander from Him and become lost, must repent and turn back to Him.


32 It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.’ ” Luke 15:32


In order for one of His people who has wandered away from Him to be reconciled again (found) is to repent, turn back to Him in humility and they we will welcomed.



JPT

Lol, that's funny right there now I don't care who you are

False.

1 John 2:19

You understand the following passage to be talking about those who never believed:

"4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. " - Hebrews 6:4-6

The believer has the same number of denials of Christ allowed before he gets turned over to his unbelief as the unbeliever does in your doctrine in the passage above. So, before you demand a hard and fast number of denials from me to prove my assertion, you provide a hard and fast number of denials for the unbeliever to prove your's. Fair enough? I think so.

Just think through how long God will endure the rejection of the gospel by the person who has never believed, and why, and what would determine that number in God's mind, and you'll understand how long God may give the ex-believer time to come back to his senses before banishing him forever from the salvation he received when he first believed.

Now just make sure you never use the Prodigal Son to prove you can't lose your salvation (he left).

So we have gone from Galatians to Hebrews.

Game on, so then by your interpretation of this scripture then there is only one chance?

we ought to start calling the wrong view OPAS. Once Prayed Always Saved.

A genuine prayer can save not because of the prayer but to Whom it is addressed.

lmao
OTAS
Only Ten-percent-tithers Are Saved

m...,

There is no misunderstanding of verse 9. If not...then please tell me which ones we must and which ones we don't have to?
Regardless, we must repent of our sins in an ongoing basis. That's the reason The Lord's pray includes..."forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespasses against us".....a recommended daily prayer.

OSAI

Once Saved Always Insecure