Not By Works

See there you go, again you proved me right

You say he who endures till the end

Thats works dude, no matter how you try to spin it, enduring is a work, trying to earn a reward, not freely recieving a gift,

This is all the proof i need, you taking the word of god out of context does not probve you right, enduring to the end is not speaking of eternal life, its talking about being alive when christ returns. Your tryi g to earn your salvation b enduring, why are you fighting what you believe, own it man, stop trying to be deceptive, then getting mad when people call you out,

See there you go, again you proved me right

You say he who endures till the end

Thats works dude, no matter how you try to spin it, enduring is a work, trying to earn a reward, not freely recieving a gift,

This is all the proof i need, you taking the word of god out of context does not probve you right, enduring to the end is not speaking of eternal life, its talking about being alive when christ returns. Your tryi g to earn your salvation b enduring, why are you fighting what you believe, own it man, stop trying to be deceptive, then getting mad when people call you out,

No, I believe that is the beginning only. There are many things that
Jesus taught us in order to be saved. I want to follow his footsteps and try to be like him and do what he did.
That is what it means to be "Jesus based".

Ohh OK. YOu problem is with the words of Messiah...

Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”

No, i believe what god said, in the LAST DAYS DURING THE TRIbULATION PERIOD the love of many will grow cold, many believers will be martyred, the hatred of the people of God will grow, and satan himself will go after them,

In these days, endure, endure to the end! If you can endure, and live until christ returns, you will have your life spared (saved) and enter the kingdom with christ.

It DOES NOT MEAN ETERNAL SALVATION, your wrong, period.

Jesus was not preaching a works based gospel of maintaining your salvation, he was giving people alive in this period hope to endure in spit of great tribulation,

Again, your teaching works, own it man, stop hiding, all your doing is hurting your own testimony by denying what in fact you believe.

No, i believe what god said, in the LAST DAYS DURING THE TRIbULATION PERIOD the love of many will grow cold, many believers will be martyred, the hatred of the people of God will grow, and satan himself will go after them,

In these days, endure, endure to the end! If you can endure, and live until christ returns, you will have your life spared (saved) and enter the kingdom with christ.

It DOES NOT MEAN ETERNAL SALVATION, your wrong, period.

Jesus was not preaching a works based gospel of maintaining your salvation, he was giving people alive in this period hope to endure in spit of great tribulation,

Again, your teaching works, own it man, stop hiding, all your doing is hurting your own testimony by denying what in fact you believe.

Not to mention it is false...salvation is given at the moment of belief....

In the grace you are, having BEEN SAVED (past tense) out of faith, and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.

These deceivers that say salvation is not given until the end are completely ignorant of the fact that salvation is spoken of in ALL three tenses...

Was saved at moment of belief
Am saved right now
Continuing to be saved into the future

"Perfect tense Greek verb" proves their stance false.

Thank you for this post decon, it makes my head spin as soon as I here, "being saved is just the beginning", or salvation is the "beginning of the process", of being saved. (The bible does not teach this).

A "born again" believer is eternally saved the moment we believe, as you have already said. Of course the reason they falsely believe salvation is a "process" is because it fits nicely with their works salvation counterfeit gospel.

That's why it is a true statement to say that a, "wrong interpretation", will always produce a, "wrong application", every time.

OK.

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."





Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."





Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”





Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."





Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

people dont rightly divide the word and dont distinguish between Jesus's earthly ministry , the age of Grace , and the tribulation to come in scripture , thats why they are confused !

people dont rightly divide the word and dont distinguish between Jesus's earthly ministry , the age of Grace , and the tribulation to come in scripture , thats why they are confused !

Amen.....the workers for, law keepers, Pharisees, Lawyers and Cainologists MUST help God with the salvation they claim to have....they have NO concept of positional sanctification based entirely upon faith and being justified eternally by the blood of Christ. They have no concept of the fact that JESUS begins, finishes and COMPLETES the WORK of faith in us. They have NO concept of the words IRREVOCABLE GIFT, SAVED to the UTTERMOST, KEPT by the POWER of GOD........They have NO concept of being BORN AGAIN from ABOVE by INCORRUPTABLE SEED.....They, in their minds, BELIEVE that THEY have to obey some set of rules, regulations and or LAWS which they WILL never be able to KEEP in order to MAINTAIN that which is NOT maintainable....

The PLENTEOUS (MANY) in NUMBER that come before the throne ESPOUSE the SAME dogma that the aforementioned HOLD to....

a. THEY claim they KNOW JESUS by faith
b. THEY claim their right to actually enter is based UPON what they HAVE DONE IN HIS NAME (WORKS, LAW KEEPING, SERVITUDE)
C. THEY will not make the final cut because they NEVER truly trusted into Christ and HIS finished work

FAITH plus ANYTHING to gain, keep, embellish, top off, maintain SALVATION equates to a false gospel which....

a. Has no power to save
b. Is double cursed
c. Leads to being cast from the presence of God
d. ALL who believe it are called fools and bewitched

The simplicity found in Christ is as follows....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE "eternally" those who BELIEVE.

The above mentioned Cainologists refuse to acknowledge the above truth because they MUST..........fill in the blank!

Amen.....the workers for, law keepers, Pharisees, Lawyers and Cainologists MUST help God with the salvation they claim to have....they have NO concept of positional sanctification based entirely upon faith and being justified eternally by the blood of Christ. They have no concept of the fact that JESUS begins, finishes and COMPLETES the WORK of faith in us. They have NO concept of the words IRREVOCABLE GIFT, SAVED to the UTTERMOST, KEPT by the POWER of GOD........They have NO concept of being BORN AGAIN from ABOVE by INCORRUPTABLE SEED.....They, in their minds, BELIEVE that THEY have to obey some set of rules, regulations and or LAWS which they WILL never be able to KEEP in order to MAINTAIN that which is NOT maintainable....

The PLENTEOUS (MANY) in NUMBER that come before the throne ESPOUSE the SAME dogma that the aforementioned HOLD to....

a. THEY claim they KNOW JESUS by faith
b. THEY claim their right to actually enter is based UPON what they HAVE DONE IN HIS NAME (WORKS, LAW KEEPING, SERVITUDE)
C. THEY will not make the final cut because they NEVER truly trusted into Christ and HIS finished work

FAITH plus ANYTHING to gain, keep, embellish, top off, maintain SALVATION equates to a false gospel which....

a. Has no power to save
b. Is double cursed
c. Leads to being cast from the presence of God
d. ALL who believe it are called fools and bewitched

The simplicity found in Christ is as follows....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE "eternally" those who BELIEVE.

The above mentioned Cainologists refuse to acknowledge the above truth because they MUST..........fill in the blank!

why will love grow cold? and for those who die before He returns that is their end...

WHAT A SHAME. NOTICE AND WATCH THESE OSAS PASTORS AND CHURCH LEADERS WHO CLAIM AND DECLARE THAT “FAITH ALONE” SAVES AND IT IS “NOT BY WÒRKS” OF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND OBEDIENCE, WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND COLLECTS TITHES FROM THEIR MEMBERS SAYING THAT IF THEY WOULD NOT GIVE TITHES, THEY ARE ROBBING GOD.

19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame.

..THAT TITHE-GIVING IS A TEST OF FAITH AND THAT GOD WILL BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY BECAUSE WHAT THEY GIVE WILL COME BACK TO THEM IN GOOD MEASURE AND RUNNING OVER.(luke 6:38)

THAT’S HOW THESE VIPERS IN THEIR GREED AND HYPOCRISY DECEIVE THEIR PREYS(UNKNOWING VICTIMS)

THEY THINK THEY CAN BRIBE GOD.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgments,
and his paths beyond tracing out!
34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has been his counselor?”
35 “Who has ever given to God,
that God should repay them?”
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

THESE VIPERS WILL STILL BE SAVED ACCORDING TO THE OSAS DOCTRINE…

...WHICH IS CONTRARY TO WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.

11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or GREEDY, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the GREEDY nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or GREEDY person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.


MAN GOT SEPARATED FROM GOD BECAUSE OF THE SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE WHEN MAN WAS DECEIVED BY THE SERPENT WHO SAID THAT “...Ye shall not surely die.”(genesis 3:4)


DÈCEIVERS OF THIS AGE SAYS THE SAME THING;


“YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE (PERIßH / BE CONDEMNED). ONCE YOU'RE SAVED, YOU ARE ALWAYS ßAVED. JUST HAVE FAITH VOID OF WORKS (OF RIGHTEOUSNESS / ÒBEDIENCE) AND YOU WILL POSSESS ETERNAL LIFE THE MOMENT YOU BELIEVE


DO NOT BE DECEIVED!!!


OSAS AND FAS ARE FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES!!!


3 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness?4 Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:
“So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge.”