BIBLE VERSES EXPLAINING SOME TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

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If I violated the rule by making this thread, then the moderator should not approve this and warn me about it.

My intention is not to promote my beliefs but just to get your opinions. that's all.

Similar to what I posted about purgatory, my intention is to see if what I learned is really right but in the end I found out that it is not.

I don't even ask anyone to convert to Catholic Church and repent being a member of any Bible based groups but to investigate whether the Orthodox, Coptic or Catholic Church is the true Church because I believe that the true Christian Church started from First Century AD and it continues up to this day.
Please take some time to look into what former Catholics discovered about the Church. There is a lot of information to help you form an educated view of the Catholic Church, just take a bit of time to look into it and I'm sure you will find a lot of valuable facts.

It took me a few years before I made the decision to leave the Catholic church and join a Christian Church. Jesus said, "he who seeks shall find". and "He who knocks, it will be opened to", so that should encourage all of us to examine our faith to see if it is in line with what Christ taught.

 
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How do you know I am not talking to catholic? There are catholic in this forum. How do you know they not read what i post?

2. I am not force them to follow me. I inform them that lumen gentium is not inline with the bible, than up to them to chose. Seem to me some of them love bible. So for them who love bible, I inform you, for the best of my knowledge catholic teaching ( lumen gentium is Lie) you either chose this catholic teaching or the bible, chose both is ilogical.
no you are telling them to follow you. if a Catholic is lead by the Spirit and the Spirit leads them wherever they are, you are telling them to STOP being lead by the Spirit and be lead by what you (a man) tells them.
 

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no you are telling them to follow you. if a Catholic is lead by the Spirit and the Spirit leads them wherever they are, you are telling them to STOP being lead by the Spirit and be lead by what you (a man) tells them.
Follow me not save them, follow my church not save them, the only way to save them is when they follow Jesus. If they lead by the spirit, they Will not agree with lumen gentium.

To say that mohammad God is Abraham God mean agree that : God that tell mohammad about Jesus is not God is real God and you have to believe real God don't you?

How you believe God in the bible and believe mohammad God in the same time

That I fail to understand.
 

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no you are telling them to follow you. if a Catholic is lead by the Spirit and the Spirit leads them wherever they are, you are telling them to STOP being lead by the Spirit and be lead by what you (a man) tells them.
The Holy Spirit only leads into Gods righteousness not into self righteousness. Holy Spirit leads to Christ not away from Christ.

For the cause of Christ
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Yet another thread bashing the Catholic Church. It gets old after awhile. Why not bash some other denominations to shake things up a bit unless you're saying that all of these denominations are error free in doctrine and practices?
It makes people feel strong bashing such massive institutions, makes them feel like they're part of the big picture.

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"Bashing some small sect won't increase my feeling of self worth as much."
 
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Top Ten Ways You Know You're in a Bad Church

10. The church bus has gun racks

9. Staff consists of "Senior Pastor, Associate Pastor, and Socio-Pastor"

8. The Bible they use is the "Dr. Seuss Version"

7. Their is an ATM in the lobby

6. Services are B.Y.O.S. -- "Bring Your Own Snake"

5. The choir wears leather robes

4. There is no cover charge, but communion is a 2 drink minimum

3. They have karaoke worship time

2. Ushers ask "Smoking or Non-Smoking?"

1. The only song the church organist knows is "Innagaddadavita"
The other day in church a guy infront of me light a cigarette, I was so shocked I almost dropped my beer.
 
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Yep, double standart, mean Lie. Catholic is liar. We have to tell them to wake up, why follow liar religion.

Catholic not love them, catholic Lie to them and the father of liar is satan.

We love them because they are a victim of Lucifer.

Recently In Indonesia there ia an erquake. More than 200 people die, more than 400 thausand lost their home. Government help them. A Lot of people from all over the world help the victim.

Catholic is a victim, If we not help them, there Will be billion of victim lost their spiritual live.

The lost is Lot greater than Indonesians earthquake. Not only 400 thausand lost their heavenly home, but Will be billion.

No, actually the truth is some Catholics are liars as you are. Cast the beam from your own eye, THEN you will see clearly to cast it out of an other's . He who is without sin cast the first stone. To judge- fix what is wrong in yourself and your own denomination first. This is done by applying ALL THE TRUTH OF THE WORD.

News flash- all the denominations have something wrong in them. You have just condemned a billion people to hell. That is the casting of stones Christ is talking about , when He says: "let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone". It is a stone which says the sentence is death, not salvation, which He is (CHRIST= SALVATION). You have thus , in throwing that stone , made yourself LORD in place of CHRIST. Not going to bode well for you, if you do not repent. It is in His Name that there is Salvation and as long as this is ones anthem from beginning -to the end of their life THEY ARE SAVED! You on the other hand put yourself as an affront to this.

Not to mention you have also said , that which precedes your denominational sect too have all gone to hell and Christ has not been able to save anyone until your sects arrival. Crazy!

So you are the start of all Christian history according to you. Crazy! Listen everyone , all who have come to this sects movement which has only come into existence in the late `1960's and early 70's take comfort you are the only saved people in Christian history. Even the foundation= EARLY CHURCH, FIRST BELIEVER'S are not saved because they preach ONLY THE RISEN Christ, GOD come in the flesh is the way to salvation. EVERYONE, EVERYONE, LISTEN, LISTEN THIS SECT which came about in the 20th century is the ONLY WAY.

A Tree and its Fruit Matthew 7:21-23
…21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’…

You Only use Christ's name, but do NOTHING IN HIS NAME. YOU CAST STONES of death, you push out Christ and allow for the inward habitation of demons in the souls of the fool who accepts your doctrine. You appease demons not cast them out. Your souls are at rest in them because of it. And that which belongs to them they do not attack. You do however, attack true believers in Christ from all denominations through HIS-STORY (HISTORY), including other Protestants (whom you have sprung up from), who do not accept your jezebel doctrine.
 
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Yet another thread bashing the Catholic Church. It gets old after awhile. Why not bash some other denominations to shake things up a bit unless you're saying that all of these denominations are error free in doctrine and practices?
Who is really doing the bashing here?

Do we not contend for the truth anymore, do we not protect the simple Gospel anymore, we leave people in sin and error is that what you are saying?
 

Jackson123

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No, actually the truth is some Catholics are liars as you are. Cast the beam from your own eye, THEN you will see clearly to cast it out of an other's . He who is without sin cast the first stone. To judge- fix what is wrong in yourself and your own denomination first. This is done by applying ALL THE TRUTH OF THE WORD.

News flash- all the denominations have something wrong in them. You have just condemned a billion people to hell. That is the casting of stones Christ is talking about , when He says: "let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone". It is a stone which says the sentence is death, not salvation, which He is (CHRIST= SALVATION). You have thus , in throwing that stone , made yourself LORD in place of CHRIST. Not going to bode well for you, if you do not repent. It is in His Name that there is Salvation and as long as this is ones anthem from beginning -to the end of their life THEY ARE SAVED! You on the other hand put yourself as an affront to this.

Not to mention you have also said , that which precedes your denominational sect too have all gone to hell and Christ has not been able to save anyone until your sects arrival. Crazy!

So you are the start of all Christian history according to you. Crazy! Listen everyone , all who have come to this sects movement which has only come into existence in the late `1960's and early 70's take comfort you are the only saved people in Christian history. Even the foundation= EARLY CHURCH, FIRST BELIEVER'S are not saved because they preach ONLY THE RISEN Christ, GOD come in the flesh is the way to salvation. EVERYONE, EVERYONE, LISTEN, LISTEN THIS SECT which came about in the 20th century is the ONLY WAY.

A Tree and its Fruit Matthew 7:21-23
…21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’…

You Only use Christ's name, but do NOTHING IN HIS NAME. YOU CAST STONES of death, you push out Christ and allow for the inward habitation of demons in the souls of the fool who accepts your doctrine. You appease demons not cast them out. Your souls are at rest in them because of it. And that which belongs to them they do not attack. You do however, attack true believers in Christ from all denominations through HIS-STORY (HISTORY), including other Protestants (whom you have sprung up from), who do not accept your jezebel doctrine.

Let me know is I am Lie when I say lumen gentium that say mohammad worship Abraham God is Lie mean I Lie.

You ask me to fast the Bram from my eyes, do you practice what you preach, If so why you call me liar?

Yes I am a sinner, and every body are sinner, is that mean you prohibit to love people and tell them that Jesus is God and No man say Jesus is not God come from the real God.

Do you believe mohammad worship Abraham God?
 
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Let me know is I am Lie when I say lumen gentium that say mohammad worship Abraham God is Lie mean I Lie.

You ask me to fast the Bram from my eyes, do you practice what you preach, If so why you call me liar?

Yes I am a sinner, and every body are sinner, is that mean you prohibit to love people and tell them that Jesus is God and No man say Jesus is not God come from the real God.

Do you believe mohammad worship Abraham God?
Jackson, why bother it really is of no avail.
 
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At least we try bother, also learn to be patient, because the bible say love is patient
Well I agree with you to a point, but it also says to shake the dust off your feet.
 
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Let me know is I am Lie when I say lumen gentium that say mohammad worship Abraham God is Lie mean I Lie.

You ask me to fast the Bram from my eyes, do you practice what you preach, If so why you call me liar?

Yes I am a sinner, and every body are sinner, is that mean you prohibit to love people and tell them that Jesus is God and No man say Jesus is not God come from the real God.

Do you believe mohammad worship Abraham God?
That is no lie. The harlot embraces Islam. But it wrong to say all Catholic embraces Islam. All are being called out of false doctrine. My point: your denomination has much in what is called False Doctrine too. Islam is a spawn of satan as is ALL FALSE DOCTRINE. Even in Islam it speaks about Christ , the OC doctrinal fathers and Mother Mary in a "light"- the light of Lucifer, this to malign the way of truth and to try and validate his lies. Just as your denomination cherry picks scripture to support your own narrative too. Repent !
ALL want to be God. There is ONLY ONE GOD, who has revealed Himself in three divine ways. GOD THE FATHER , GOD THE SON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT! ALL HIM!

Everyone want's to try to ride on Christ's coat tail. He shakes them off like fleas!
Tried But Trusting Psalm 86:11-13
…11Teach me Your way, O LORD, and I will walk in Your truth. Grant me undividedness of heart so that I may fear Your name. 12I will praise You, O Lord my God, with all my heart; I will glorify Your name forever. 13For great is Your loving devotion to me; You have delivered me from the depths of Sheol.…
 

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That is no lie. The harlot embraces Islam. But it wrong to say all Catholic embraces Islam. All are being called out of false doctrine. My point: your denomination has much in what is called False Doctrine too. Islam is a spawn of satan as is ALL FALSE DOCTRINE. Even in Islam it speaks about Christ , the OC doctrinal fathers and Mother Mary in a "light"- the light of Lucifer, this to malign the way of truth and to try and validate his lies. Just as your denomination cherry picks scripture to support your own narrative too. Repent !
ALL want to be God. There is ONLY ONE GOD, who has revealed Himself in three divine ways. GOD THE FATHER , GOD THE SON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT! ALL HIM!

Everyone want's to try to ride on Christ's coat tail. He shakes them off like fleas!
Tried But Trusting Psalm 86:11-13
…11Teach me Your way, O LORD, and I will walk in Your truth. Grant me undividedness of heart so that I may fear Your name. 12I will praise You, O Lord my God, with all my heart; I will glorify Your name forever. 13For great is Your loving devotion to me; You have delivered me from the depths of Sheol.…
I has been worship in the baptist church more than 24 years, It doesn't mean I believe baptist church save me. I believe Jesus is my savior.

Did my church perfect? No

No body perfect. But the very foundation of christianity is a faith that Jesus is God.

Catholic agree mohammad worship Abraham God and that God told mohammad Jesus is not god

This violate the very foundation of christianity.

I can tolerate this teaching.
 
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I has been worship in the baptist church more than 24 years, It doesn't mean I believe baptist church save me. I believe Jesus is my savior.

Did my church perfect? No

No body perfect. But the very foundation of christianity is a faith that Jesus is God.

Catholic agree mohammad worship Abraham God and that God told mohammad Jesus is not god

This violate the very foundation of christianity.

I can tolerate this teaching.
I have searched and unable to find the link or info on mohammad from the catholic source you speak about, can you post it again?:)
 
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I has been worship in the baptist church more than 24 years, It doesn't mean I believe baptist church save me. I believe Jesus is my savior.

Did my church perfect? No

No body perfect. But the very foundation of christianity is a faith that Jesus is God.

Catholic agree mohammad worship Abraham God and that God told mohammad Jesus is not god

This violate the very foundation of christianity.

I can tolerate this teaching.
Today that may true for those heretics which promote that. But that is not true throughout its history. Some Catholics do not cling to those precepts today. Due to past teachings, of leaders in its History. this requires knowledgeable discussion. You must know your facts before a hole denomination and its people are condemned now and throughout history.

Now I will share from an Obvious Catholic a compilation of quotes he has collected in his video. LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I
DO NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE MAKERS OF THE VIDEO. BUT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES CONCERNING CATHOLIC DOCTRINE HE HAS INFORMATION USEFUL FOR THIS DISCUSSION. I AM NOT CATHOLIC SIMPLY CHRISTIAN . I AM A TRUTH SEEKER. I EMBRACE ANY AND ALL TRUTH BY ANYONE WHO SPEAKS IT REGARDLESS OF DENOMINATION. TRUTH IS TRUTH! I AM A PERPETUAL STUDENT OF THE WORD AND LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES OF THOSE TRUE CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

You speak a truth concerning what is being promoted by the RCC today. They are a Harlot but historically -not all have adhered to a Harlot belief. Being in something does not mean of it. Hence , be in the world but not of it. I do not know if I will be allowed to make a thread here concerning all this stuff. IF you notice- I tell everyone to come out of the lies of denominations. I suggest you stay and fellowship with those where you are from in truth only. Those who do not agree with the Word will be sure to throw you out. You would have to understand the letters to the Churches=assembly of believers everywhere , to get this. Would it be allowed me to share those here???????? That is the issue.
 
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Today that may true for those heretics which promote that. But that is not true throughout its history. Some Catholics do not cling to those precepts today. Due to past teachings, of leaders in its History. this requires knowledgeable discussion. You must know your facts before a hole denomination and its people are condemned now and throughout history.

Now I will share from an Obvious Catholic a compilation of quotes he has collected in his video. LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I
DO NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE MAKERS OF THE VIDEO. BUT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES CONCERNING CATHOLIC DOCTRINE HE HAS INFORMATION USEFUL FOR THIS DISCUSSION. I AM NOT CATHOLIC SIMPLY CHRISTIAN . I AM A TRUTH SEEKER. I EMBRACE ANY AND ALL TRUTH BY ANYONE WHO SPEAKS IT REGARDLESS OF DENOMINATION. TRUTH IS TRUTH! I AM A PERPETUAL STUDENT OF THE WORD AND LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES OF THOSE TRUE CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

You speak a truth concerning what is being promoted by the RCC today. They are a Harlot but historically -not all have adhered to a Harlot belief. Being in something does not mean of it. Hence , be in the world but not of it. I do not know if I will be allowed to make a thread here concerning all this stuff. IF you notice- I tell everyone to come out of the lies of denominations. I suggest you stay and fellowship with those where you are from in truth only. Those who do not agree with the Word will be sure to throw you out. You would have to understand the letters to the Churches=assembly of believers everywhere , to get this. Would it be allowed me to share those here???????? That is the issue.
The point is: it is disingenuous to say all who identify as Catholic have always believed in what you ascribe to them all. Today it is true most do. But even today there are some who do not. Show some Brotherly love, the mindset of the Church= assembly of believers who are of this mind frame ( PHILADELPHIA) -and have no admonishments from Christ because they're perfected in love. And secret revealed -will be snatched up at the end of the tribulation.
 
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Today that may true for those heretics which promote that. But that is not true throughout its history. Some Catholics do not cling to those precepts today. Due to past teachings, of leaders in its History. this requires knowledgeable discussion. You must know your facts before a hole denomination and its people are condemned now and throughout history.

Now I will share from an Obvious Catholic a compilation of quotes he has collected in his video. LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I
DO NOT FULLY SUPPORT THE MAKERS OF THE VIDEO. BUT FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES CONCERNING CATHOLIC DOCTRINE HE HAS INFORMATION USEFUL FOR THIS DISCUSSION. I AM NOT CATHOLIC SIMPLY CHRISTIAN . I AM A TRUTH SEEKER. I EMBRACE ANY AND ALL TRUTH BY ANYONE WHO SPEAKS IT REGARDLESS OF DENOMINATION. TRUTH IS TRUTH! I AM A PERPETUAL STUDENT OF THE WORD AND LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES OF THOSE TRUE CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT CHRISTIAN HISTORY.

You speak a truth concerning what is being promoted by the RCC today. They are a Harlot but historically -not all have adhered to a Harlot belief. Being in something does not mean of it. Hence , be in the world but not of it. I do not know if I will be allowed to make a thread here concerning all this stuff. IF you notice- I tell everyone to come out of the lies of denominations. I suggest you stay and fellowship with those where you are from in truth only. Those who do not agree with the Word will be sure to throw you out. You would have to understand the letters to the Churches=assembly of believers everywhere , to get this. Would it be allowed me to share those here???????? That is the issue.
I would like to point out all of this transpired before the Protestant's even had a say in anything. We can not ignore this part of History in Christianity