Not By Works

Just like a soldier ! Lol

Amen Decon! Preach the word in season and out of season; like you say, "never stop"

Security of the Believer: Notice, we are called, we are loved, and we are kept for Jesus Christ.

Jude1:1
1) Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James,
To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and "kept" for Jesus Christ:

Doxology: A concise clear view of our Eternal Security; again it is God who keeps us, from the beginning until forevermore, praise God.

Jude1:24,25
24) To him "who is able to keep you" from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy, 25) to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

God bless!

Not you, works/grace was an oxymoron from ben hur. my internet went down and I was off almost 2 hrs. and so I made myself busy and had to go back and check

You are forgiven my brother....

Exactly....just like a MARINE!

Exactly.....keep swingin haha

We went out prior to 6:26 or I would have reacted and responded @TruthTalk If we had to work for grace it wouldn't be grace. I reacted with a laugh because it was a mistake that I couldn't the point and complete what I was trying to say. OOps. Thank for being kind and not over reacting.

2 addresses, 2 computers, same problem. It's got to be the ISP.

That is done with a FastStone Image Viewer, and it it free for individual use, but they charge for businesses to use it. But is a SIMPLE Image Editor too. It also has 3 different simple boarders, but it just frames it quick and easy.

Keep us from stumbling. Keep; guard us from sinning; stumbling.
Eternal security? Yes in the sense of protecting us from sinning to present us faultless before HIS glory with great joy.

Whhoooo haaaaaa! Lol

Magenta you got some photoshop skills! (or whatever program you use for that!)

I would do me a crusader one if I knew how.

Thank you for your comments.

God bless!

Better oxcymoron than oxycotton..lol

I always wondered why one of the qualifications for being an Elder is something that you cant control. I mean you can raise your offspring right and in the Lord, but at the end of the day we all make our own choices and if they end up disobedient, is it your fault? Who knows.

I know growing up I made terrible choices and it wasn't my parents fault.

BUT: I agree with you VCO, those are the qualifications and God knows why thats the best qualifications for an Elder, and so we follow them. Let God be true and everyman a liar. Was just wondering if anyone has a particular reason in mind for why that is?

Ooooh Raaaah hahahah

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That qualification is only applicable while they are under one's roof.....once they become an adult and move out IMO the qualification no longer applies.....!

This should be the ANSWER, if you BELIEVE GOD's WORD.


Joshua 1:8 (HCSB)
8 This book of instruction must not depart from your mouth; you are to recite it day and night so that you may carefully observe everything written in it. For then you will prosper and succeed in whatever you do.

Proverbs 22:6 (HCSB)
6 Teach a youth about the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Proverbs 13:24 (HCSB)
24 The one who will not use the rod hates his son, but the one who loves him disciplines him diligently.


Now when you listen to God's instructions on how to raise a Child by HIS STANDARDS,
and HE SAYS THE CHILD WILL NOT DEPART FROM IT.

So Who is at fault when a Child Departs from GOD's Ways? Maybe you did not use the ROD or BELT often enough?

I was a Sunday School Teacher for High School Age. Two of the biggest Trouble Makers were children that had ELDERS for DADS. And one of those parents had an older Son that was in Prison. The Church had ALL KINDS OF INTERNAL BICKERINGS, and the Church Ended up Splitting. I think NONE of that would have happened, had they Followed GOD's Outlines for choosing BIBLICAL ELDERS.

The CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, had a Bumper Sticker that READ:

"IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN DISCIPLINING YOUR CHILD,
WE WILL DISCIPLINE HIM WHEN HE GETS OLDER."

I think this was on "Focus on the Family" radio program, when they were interviewing an Christian that was a Sheriff. He said,
"The Surest way to raise a Juvenile Delinquent, is NOT to Discipline him when he is a Child."

So have we REAPED what we have SOWN, or what? Most Parents only think Discipline should never be more than a Scolding.

I have seen Spoiled Children with there parents in line at the Grocery Store, who just Scream and Kick, throwing an absolute
Temper Tantrum when they are told they cannot have a candy bar. And their Parents doing NOTHING ABOUT IT, as I stand their THINKING,
"DO YOU WANT TO BORROW MY BELT?"