"Man Up": How "Christians" Are Abandoning Single Men

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Every single day you hear it. You cannot escape it. The sheer hatred of men in America. Namely, hatred for the single man. Democrats/feminists mock penis size, question the man's sexuality, and revert to awful attacks such as:

"Incel"
"Can't Get Laid"
"Mama's Boy"
"Commitment Issues"
"Can't Handle a Strong, Independent Woman"
"F*ggot"
"Bitter"
"Misogynist"
"Why do you hate women?"

So-called Republicans join in with insults of their own, blaming the lack of Millennial relationships on men and "porn and video games" ... the theory being that if only Millennial men would stop "masturbating" (pfft), we'd spend all of our energy on "pursuing" sex with women like the Baby Boomers did (the only generation of men ever to do so).

Baby Boomers, concerned with the harsh reality of their mortality, regret their decisions to wait until they were 40 to start having families, that now they bash their sons to provide them with grandchildren before they die. They do this by distorting what testosterone actually is, calling celibate men "weak" with "low testosterone"… and yet, in the animal kingdom … the Alpha male is the least likely to have sex, because they are more focused on tasks that are far more important and rewarding ...

Then there is the "church" … false teachers like Paul Washer instruct men to "make their desires known" immediately, and discourages building a foundation of friendship first. According to Washer, only "boys" are friends with women; and to be a friend first is "leading women on". How ridiculous. You cannot love someone without first being their friend. This is why the Friend Zone is ridiculous; you don't go on dates to "get to know" somebody; you go on dates to draw closer to someone you already know! For Christian men, a woman's beauty is not enough to warrant asking for a date.

Matt Chandler is another heretic, who instructs men to "man up" and to "grow some balls" and ask women out in the church. John MacArtur says similar, but not quite so brash. We are to "pursue" women "as Christ pursues us" … smh.

Despite the discrimination against college educated Millennials as being "over qualified", they scream from the mountain tops that young men who do not make enough under the Obama economy (we still have a long way to go before President Trump fixes all that Obama did) are "afraid to work hard". If we aren't making enough, we need to "figure it out" and provide those "resources". As one child told me on another thread, we need to "stop complaining" and "figure it out" ...

If a man says that he can't find a good woman, instantly these "Christians" call him "picky". We are told to stop seeking "super models" and that their are plenty of good women who are not necessarily attractive.

And yet, Christian men are not looking for "super models". We are looking for RUTH, and we cannot find her.

We are told that we meet Ruth within the church ... which is a flat-out LIE. No matter what church I go to, no matter what denomination, no matter what area of the country I am in … I am the only young person in church.

Young people don't attend church anymore (REAL church, with a steeple … not one of these "non-denominational" "ra ra" mega churches) … and women are certainly fewer in number than men.

But it's neither women, no man's fault; it's the Boomer's fault. I don't attend church, because I can't afford it. Because Boomers are a selfish, entitled, narcissistic generation, Millennial men and women are often stuck working on Sunday mornings. I have two college degrees, but am both "over qualified" and "lack experience". Thus, I work 64+ hours a week, on nights, weekends, holidays … and Sunday morning. If you are a young person, and you refuse to work on Sunday mornings, 9 times out of 10 … you will not have a job. It's part of the "paying dues" that Boomers insist we pay … dues that they never paid themselves.

For most Millennials, their days off (if they are lucky enough to get them) are on Monday's and Tuesday's … the absolute least social time of the week. All local events, concerts, sport outings, get-togethers … are on the weekends.

And yet, the "church" screams at single men for not pursuing.

We are forbidden to "fraternize" at work as well. I get off work at midnight. 3 nights a week, I get 1.5 hours of sleep, before driving an hour for the 2nd job. Instead of going to the bar after midnight in hopes of maybe encountering someone trashy … I'd much rather go home and relax … like an adult.

Yet, this is a taboo for such "Christians". I am committing an abominable "sin". I am "refusing" to "be fruitful and multiply".

But the worst part of it is … that these "Christians" never give any guidance or direction on where to look!

They always say to go to church … knowing full well that Millennials are working on Sunday mornings. They may say something as absurd as "public transit", when adults have their own transportation. Or it's suggestions for people living in the city, instead of those of us living in the suburbs … one of my favorites is the gym … in which most people go during the evening … when most Millennials are at … work.

So, I give up. I'll be feminine and "pursue" women and take on their role.

Where do I look???

Where does the average Millennial male (who goes months at a time without ever seeing a woman), who lives in the suburbs, works on Sundays, has his own car, lifts in the morning, who gets off of work at midnight, and cannot go to church go to encounter a woman?

What are godly Millennial women doing on Monday's and Tuesday's?

The same thing we godly Millennial men are; in comas, recovering from the same brutal work schedule we had.

"Man-up" indeed ...
 

Magenta

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Lord, RickDeckard is having trouble managing this stressful time in his life. The stress is getting to be too much for him, and he needs Your strength to get him through. We know You are a pillar for us to lean on in tough times, and I pray that You will continue to provide all of us with ways to make our lives a little less burdensome, physically, emotionally, and Spiritually.

Lord, I pray that You provide RickDeckard Your hand and walk him through the dark, lonely, overly busy times. I ask that you reduce the burdens in his life. Show him the path to get things done with less stress. Rid him of the things weighing him down. Lead him into circumstances and situations that will increase his fellowship with Your children, that he may be properly nurtured to grow into the type of man You want him to be. Thank You, Lord, for all You do in our lives and how You will provide. In the precious name of Jesus we pray, amen.
 
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Lord, RickDeckard is having trouble managing this stressful time in his life. The stress is getting to be too much for him, and he needs Your strength to get him through. We know You are a pillar for us to lean on in tough times, and I pray that You will continue to provide all of us with ways to make our lives a little less burdensome, physically, emotionally, and Spiritually.

Lord, I pray that You provide RickDeckard Your hand and walk him through the dark, lonely, overly busy times. I ask that you reduce the burdens in his life. Show him the path to get things done with less stress. Rid him of the things weighing him down. Lead him into circumstances and situations that will increase his fellowship with Your children, that he may be properly nurtured to grow into the type of man You want him to be. Thank You, Lord, for all You do in our lives and how You will provide. In the precious name of Jesus' we pray, amen.
I appreciate your kindness, thank you. :)
 

Magenta

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I appreciate your kindness, thank you. :)
You are welcome... your life sounds very stressful, and I wonder how you can function with so little sleep. When I was much younger, I once tried working two jobs, but it was definitely not for me! So I feel for you in your present circumstances, and hope things change for you so that you are not so bogged down with the demands of providing for yourself, and also allow you time for a healthy social life, and fellowship with a local church :)
 
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You are welcome... your life sounds very stressful, and I wonder how you can function with so little sleep. When I was much younger, I once tried working two jobs, but it was definitely not for me! So I feel for you in your present circumstances, and hope things change for you so that you are not so bogged down with the demands of providing for yourself, and also allow you time for a healthy social life, and fellowship with a local church :)
The point is though, it's not just me. This is life for virtually every Millennial man AND woman. The economy is fantastic; I have more than doubled my income under this president than the previous … but it still isn't enough.

The last service I was able to attend was Easter Sunday; an abysmal 90 people attended. My Dad was a pastor, and in high school, we had 120 every week. Easter and Christmas are usually FILLED services. Now? Churches are lucky to get 40 people each week.

I have single male friends approaching their mid 30s; in fact, most of my male friends are single. We grow tired of the constant bashing to date and to get married, as if we are presented with any options.

The fact of the matter is, when you work the typical Millennial work schedule, you cannot attend church.

Christians would be better served advocating for youth to get Sundays off than they are shaming men to the altar ...
 

LightBright

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Every single day you hear it. You cannot escape it. The sheer hatred of men in America. Namely, hatred for the single man. Democrats/feminists mock penis size, question the man's sexuality, and revert to awful attacks such as:

"Incel"
"Can't Get Laid"
"Mama's Boy"
"Commitment Issues"
"Can't Handle a Strong, Independent Woman"
"F*ggot"
"Bitter"
"Misogynist"
"Why do you hate women?"


So-called Republicans join in with insults of their own, blaming the lack of Millennial relationships on men and "porn and video games" ... the theory being that if only Millennial men would stop "masturbating" (pfft), we'd spend all of our energy on "pursuing" sex with women like the Baby Boomers did (the only generation of men ever to do so).

Baby Boomers, concerned with the harsh reality of their mortality, regret their decisions to wait until they were 40 to start having families, that now they bash their sons to provide them with grandchildren before they die. They do this by distorting what testosterone actually is, calling celibate men "weak" with "low testosterone"… and yet, in the animal kingdom … the Alpha male is the least likely to have sex, because they are more focused on tasks that are far more important and rewarding ...

Then there is the "church" … false teachers like Paul Washer instruct men to "make their desires known" immediately, and discourages building a foundation of friendship first. According to Washer, only "boys" are friends with women; and to be a friend first is "leading women on". How ridiculous. You cannot love someone without first being their friend. This is why the Friend Zone is ridiculous; you don't go on dates to "get to know" somebody; you go on dates to draw closer to someone you already know! For Christian men, a woman's beauty is not enough to warrant asking for a date.

Matt Chandler is another heretic, who instructs men to "man up" and to "grow some balls" and ask women out in the church. John MacArtur says similar, but not quite so brash. We are to "pursue" women "as Christ pursues us" … smh.

Despite the discrimination against college educated Millennials as being "over qualified", they scream from the mountain tops that young men who do not make enough under the Obama economy (we still have a long way to go before President Trump fixes all that Obama did) are "afraid to work hard". If we aren't making enough, we need to "figure it out" and provide those "resources". As one child told me on another thread, we need to "stop complaining" and "figure it out" ...

If a man says that he can't find a good woman, instantly these "Christians" call him "picky". We are told to stop seeking "super models" and that their are plenty of good women who are not necessarily attractive.

And yet, Christian men are not looking for "super models". We are looking for RUTH, and we cannot find her.

We are told that we meet Ruth within the church ... which is a flat-out LIE. No matter what church I go to, no matter what denomination, no matter what area of the country I am in … I am the only young person in church.

Young people don't attend church anymore (REAL church, with a steeple … not one of these "non-denominational" "ra ra" mega churches) … and women are certainly fewer in number than men.

But it's neither women, no man's fault; it's the Boomer's fault. I don't attend church, because I can't afford it. Because Boomers are a selfish, entitled, narcissistic generation, Millennial men and women are often stuck working on Sunday mornings. I have two college degrees, but am both "over qualified" and "lack experience". Thus, I work 64+ hours a week, on nights, weekends, holidays … and Sunday morning. If you are a young person, and you refuse to work on Sunday mornings, 9 times out of 10 … you will not have a job. It's part of the "paying dues" that Boomers insist we pay … dues that they never paid themselves.

For most Millennials, their days off (if they are lucky enough to get them) are on Monday's and Tuesday's … the absolute least social time of the week. All local events, concerts, sport outings, get-togethers … are on the weekends.

And yet, the "church" screams at single men for not pursuing.

We are forbidden to "fraternize" at work as well. I get off work at midnight. 3 nights a week, I get 1.5 hours of sleep, before driving an hour for the 2nd job. Instead of going to the bar after midnight in hopes of maybe encountering someone trashy … I'd much rather go home and relax … like an adult.

Yet, this is a taboo for such "Christians". I am committing an abominable "sin". I am "refusing" to "be fruitful and multiply".

But the worst part of it is … that these "Christians" never give any guidance or direction on where to look!

They always say to go to church … knowing full well that Millennials are working on Sunday mornings. They may say something as absurd as "public transit", when adults have their own transportation. Or it's suggestions for people living in the city, instead of those of us living in the suburbs … one of my favorites is the gym … in which most people go during the evening … when most Millennials are at … work.

So, I give up. I'll be feminine and "pursue" women and take on their role.

Where do I look???

Where does the average Millennial male (who goes months at a time without ever seeing a woman), who lives in the suburbs, works on Sundays, has his own car, lifts in the morning, who gets off of work at midnight, and cannot go to church go to encounter a woman?

What are godly Millennial women doing on Monday's and Tuesday's?

The same thing we godly Millennial men are; in comas, recovering from the same brutal work schedule we had.

"Man-up" indeed ...
Why are women supposed to pursue men? No where in the Bible does it say anything close to women. All over it tells men to take the initiative, we are to pursue, i like Paul Washer he's definitely not a false teacher but i think you have a point about being friends first, even then his layout for finding a wife and how to go about it isn't bad. Where to look? Well we should attend church, i could care less if you look there or not we should go to church, but anyway ig it depends. It's not easy for sure i can tell you're frustrated and that's understandable but it's going to be hard, honestly without divine intervention id argue it's impossible but i would pray first. For your situation you are never really around Christians so idrk how you would find a Christian girl. Maybe just change your schedule and try to be around Christians more and if you see someone then its up to you. Things like bible study, church, or maybe events like that Christian rap thing in chicago, stuff like that.
 

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The point is though, it's not just me. This is life for virtually every Millennial man AND woman. The economy is fantastic; I have more than doubled my income under this president than the previous … but it still isn't enough.

The last service I was able to attend was Easter Sunday; an abysmal 90 people attended. My Dad was a pastor, and in high school, we had 120 every week. Easter and Christmas are usually FILLED services. Now? Churches are lucky to get 40 people each week.

I have single male friends approaching their mid 30s; in fact, most of my male friends are single. We grow tired of the constant bashing to date and to get married, as if we are presented with any options.

The fact of the matter is, when you work the typical Millennial work schedule, you cannot attend church.

Christians would be better served advocating for youth to get Sundays off than they are shaming men to the altar ...
and howcome you have to work sundays?
 
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Why are women supposed to pursue men? No where in the Bible does it say anything close to women. All over it tells men to take the initiative, we are to pursue, i like Paul Washer he's definitely not a false teacher but i think you have a point about being friends first, even then his layout for finding a wife and how to go about it isn't bad. Where to look? Well we should attend church, i could care less if you look there or not we should go to church, but anyway ig it depends. It's not easy for sure i can tell you're frustrated and that's understandable but it's going to be hard, honestly without divine intervention id argue it's impossible but i would pray first. For your situation you are never really around Christians so idrk how you would find a Christian girl. Maybe just change your schedule and try to be around Christians more and if you see someone then its up to you. Things like bible study, church, or maybe events like that Christian rap thing in chicago, stuff like that.
LOL. There is NOT ONE verse anywhere that tells men to pursue women, Bub. Not. One.
 

LightBright

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LOL. There is NOT ONE verse anywhere that tells men to pursue women, Bub. Not. One.
A man is to leave his father and mother and cleave to a wife.....genesis tells men to get out of their way of life to go to the woman
 
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and howcome you have to work sundays?
… because Boomer employers make it all or nothing; even though there are federal laws against religious discrimination in the work place … if you are not willing to work on Sunday morning to accommodate Boomers, you will not get hired. Period.

How is me changing my schedule going to affect other peoples' schedule
A man is to leave his father and mother and cleave to a wife.....genesis tells men to get out of their way of life to go to the woman
LOL. WHERE does that say for a man to look for a wife???

Study up on Paul, son!
 
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Proverbs 18:22 "He who finds a wife, finds a good thing".
Yeah, it's old testament. But that's what Paul had.
 

Demi777

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Every single day you hear it. You cannot escape it. The sheer hatred of men in America. Namely, hatred for the single man. Democrats/feminists mock penis size, question the man's sexuality, and revert to awful attacks such as:

"Incel"
"Can't Get Laid"
"Mama's Boy"
"Commitment Issues"
"Can't Handle a Strong, Independent Woman"
"F*ggot"
"Bitter"
"Misogynist"
"Why do you hate women?"


So-called Republicans join in with insults of their own, blaming the lack of Millennial relationships on men and "porn and video games" ... the theory being that if only Millennial men would stop "masturbating" (pfft), we'd spend all of our energy on "pursuing" sex with women like the Baby Boomers did (the only generation of men ever to do so).

Baby Boomers, concerned with the harsh reality of their mortality, regret their decisions to wait until they were 40 to start having families, that now they bash their sons to provide them with grandchildren before they die. They do this by distorting what testosterone actually is, calling celibate men "weak" with "low testosterone"… and yet, in the animal kingdom … the Alpha male is the least likely to have sex, because they are more focused on tasks that are far more important and rewarding ...

Then there is the "church" … false teachers like Paul Washer instruct men to "make their desires known" immediately, and discourages building a foundation of friendship first. According to Washer, only "boys" are friends with women; and to be a friend first is "leading women on". How ridiculous. You cannot love someone without first being their friend. This is why the Friend Zone is ridiculous; you don't go on dates to "get to know" somebody; you go on dates to draw closer to someone you already know! For Christian men, a woman's beauty is not enough to warrant asking for a date.

Matt Chandler is another heretic, who instructs men to "man up" and to "grow some balls" and ask women out in the church. John MacArtur says similar, but not quite so brash. We are to "pursue" women "as Christ pursues us" … smh.

Despite the discrimination against college educated Millennials as being "over qualified", they scream from the mountain tops that young men who do not make enough under the Obama economy (we still have a long way to go before President Trump fixes all that Obama did) are "afraid to work hard". If we aren't making enough, we need to "figure it out" and provide those "resources". As one child told me on another thread, we need to "stop complaining" and "figure it out" ...

If a man says that he can't find a good woman, instantly these "Christians" call him "picky". We are told to stop seeking "super models" and that their are plenty of good women who are not necessarily attractive.

And yet, Christian men are not looking for "super models". We are looking for RUTH, and we cannot find her.

We are told that we meet Ruth within the church ... which is a flat-out LIE. No matter what church I go to, no matter what denomination, no matter what area of the country I am in … I am the only young person in church.

Young people don't attend church anymore (REAL church, with a steeple … not one of these "non-denominational" "ra ra" mega churches) … and women are certainly fewer in number than men.

But it's neither women, no man's fault; it's the Boomer's fault. I don't attend church, because I can't afford it. Because Boomers are a selfish, entitled, narcissistic generation, Millennial men and women are often stuck working on Sunday mornings. I have two college degrees, but am both "over qualified" and "lack experience". Thus, I work 64+ hours a week, on nights, weekends, holidays … and Sunday morning. If you are a young person, and you refuse to work on Sunday mornings, 9 times out of 10 … you will not have a job. It's part of the "paying dues" that Boomers insist we pay … dues that they never paid themselves.

For most Millennials, their days off (if they are lucky enough to get them) are on Monday's and Tuesday's … the absolute least social time of the week. All local events, concerts, sport outings, get-togethers … are on the weekends.

And yet, the "church" screams at single men for not pursuing.

We are forbidden to "fraternize" at work as well. I get off work at midnight. 3 nights a week, I get 1.5 hours of sleep, before driving an hour for the 2nd job. Instead of going to the bar after midnight in hopes of maybe encountering someone trashy … I'd much rather go home and relax … like an adult.

Yet, this is a taboo for such "Christians". I am committing an abominable "sin". I am "refusing" to "be fruitful and multiply".

But the worst part of it is … that these "Christians" never give any guidance or direction on where to look!

They always say to go to church … knowing full well that Millennials are working on Sunday mornings. They may say something as absurd as "public transit", when adults have their own transportation. Or it's suggestions for people living in the city, instead of those of us living in the suburbs … one of my favorites is the gym … in which most people go during the evening … when most Millennials are at … work.

So, I give up. I'll be feminine and "pursue" women and take on their role.

Where do I look???

Where does the average Millennial male (who goes months at a time without ever seeing a woman), who lives in the suburbs, works on Sundays, has his own car, lifts in the morning, who gets off of work at midnight, and cannot go to church go to encounter a woman?

What are godly Millennial women doing on Monday's and Tuesday's?

The same thing we godly Millennial men are; in comas, recovering from the same brutal work schedule we had.

"Man-up" indeed ...
This thread makes me sad...hugs
 

LightBright

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… because Boomer employers make it all or nothing; even though there are federal laws against religious discrimination in the work place … if you are not willing to work on Sunday morning to accommodate Boomers, you will not get hired. Period.

How is me changing my schedule going to affect other peoples' schedule


LOL. WHERE does that say for a man to look for a wife???

Study up on Paul, son!
I didn't know that they force you to work on sundays that's strange but ig life happens sometimes. And i said change your schedule so you can be like others lol. Ummm it's kinda implied not including, like you said, we as men are to be representatives of christ so we are to pursue the woman, or the church.
 
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Proverbs 18:22 "He who finds a wife, finds a good thing".
Yeah, it's old testament. But that's what Paul had.
YAWN.

What part of FINDING means to SEEK???

I FOUND a dirty penny in the ditch the other day; I didn't SEEK IT. I didn't LOOK for it. I didn't SEARCH for it. And yet, I found it ...

Any other verses that instructs men to act like women???
 
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I didn't know that they force you to work on sundays that's strange but ig life happens sometimes. And i said change your schedule so you can be like others lol. Ummm it's kinda implied not including, like you said, we as men are to be representatives of christ so we are to pursue the woman, or the church.
Others are like me … others work hard, like me. Others have schedules, like me. Are we to all riot and demand Day Shifts and weekends off like young nurses are doing in England (and have the financial means to strike)??? That's the only way it's going to change.

Look, you were 12 when stores FIRST started to open on Thanksgiving. There is a lot of negative changes in the world that young people are uniquely experiencing, and you are bound to experience it to.

SIGH. WE pursue Christ … WE are his bride. Therefore, it is assumed that women pursue men, as marriage is to be the symbol for Christ and the church. Jesus does not want a non-reciprocal Bride; he wants repentance and submission.
 
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RodB65

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YAWN.

What part of FINDING means to SEEK???

I FOUND a dirty penny in the ditch the other day; I didn't SEEK IT. I didn't LOOK for it. I didn't SEARCH for it. And yet, I found it ...

Any other verses that instructs men to act like women???
Well, you found a penny you weren't looking for.

...And that's how it happens.
 

Demi777

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Sadly, it's the new normal.
Its sad that without a partner people are treated like lower class citizens.
I agree that especially when u r a christian, its always either expected to have everything and be happy or have nothing and br happy..
Thr democrats approach is always the same 2.
If u have everything u are a hiprocret. If u have nothing or lack something “ur own fault go get some“
Dont let people drag you down. Let God guide you and deliver you of the bondage and step into a fulfiled life with wisdom and peace instead of torment and pain
Lots of love and prayer to u
 

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Others are like me … others work hard, like me. Others have schedules, like me. Are we to all riot and demand Day Shifts and weekends off like young nurses are doing in England (and have the financial means to strike)??? That's the only way it's going to change.

Look, you were 12 when stores FIRST started to open on Thanksgiving. There is a lot of negative changes in the world that young people are uniquely experiencing, and you are bound to experience it to.

SIGH. WE pursue Christ … WE are his bride. Therefore, it is assumed that women pursue men, as marriage is to be the symbol for Christ and the church. Jesus does not want a non-reciprocal Bride; he wants repentance and submission.
No because in marriage men are to represent christ and women the church, thats why they submit to us and why we lead. The work thing is a thing but i dont plan on working on sundays.
 
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Well, you found a penny you weren't looking for.

...And that's how it happens.
YES!!! That is my point! A man finds a wife that he is NOT looking for. Therefore, you are taking that verse out of its context. The woman crosses his path. The woman makes herself known to him. The woman shows him desire. And then the man responds.

If she doesn't do this, the man carries on about his day. You know it, and I know it.

Assuming you are a decent person, you have NEVER gone up and "cold approached" some random woman like a nut; instead, she smiled at you and invited you to have a conversation. Millennial women don't do this! They have accepted the feminist lie that "hard-to-get" works, and it just simply doesn't.

EVERY woman you have ever been interested in, you fell like this: you started off as friends. Then at some point, she blurred the lines between friendship and interest. Because of those blurred lines, you started to wonder about her and her intentions. And through that wonder, you developed feelings.

That is how it works. That is how it has always worked.

A woman initiates, the man responds.