"Man Up": How "Christians" Are Abandoning Single Men

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You have ranted on and on about stereotypical millennial girls.

But the stereotypical millennial, that you complain about, is someone who whines about their problems, and blames everyone else.
And that is exactly what YOU are doing.
YOU are acting exactly like the stereotypical millennial you claim to be angry at!

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Umm, pal … I've defended Millennial girls. I discussed their strong work ethic, that compares to that of men.

The stereotypical Millennial, of which I am, is someone who facts back and refuses to take responsibility for the injustices enforced by people like yourself.

When have I ever said I was angry at Millennials? I am upset with the hostility that fake Christians, such as yourself, extend to single Christian men … as you are displaying so wonderfully for us here.

You are acting like a typical Boomer, failing with basic argumentation/refutation, reading comprehension, and basic facts about the world surrounding you.
 
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Eeehm... and why should he?

But I think that single women have a worse situation. In some churches a single girl/woman is seen as like something is wrong with her, which is so unbiblical that it cannot be more false.

At least, in my country.
Oh yes, in other countries, women have it terrible. In America, women are "empowered" whether they are promiscuous or whether they are celibate. Celibate, an American man is never allowed to be, as maxwel is showing us here ...
 

maxwel

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Blah, blah, blah. We get it dude. You want to be a woman, it's okay. I think Target will let you use the opposite bathroom.

You STILL don't have an answer on where to "pursue" such lovely ladies ... after all, they are supposedly "every where", right?


1. You made incorrect theological claims.

2. They're silly claims, but I went ahead and PROVED them incorrect using scripture.

3. You cannot win the argument, you cannot accept criticism, and you cannot admit you're wrong...
so you resort to childish name calling.




You actually lost an argument, so out of anger, you started calling me a girl.

Most of us grew out of this when we were 12.






..
 

MichaelOwen

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It can be truly said that you do not truly know someone until you step back and observe and watch their behavior and character. It is true that in this day and age, women have become more and more independent and less understanding of men, and the same could be said with men not understanding women. Fact is, that maybe, our Lord is trying to send those of us who struggle with finding a good hearted Christian man or woman, a message that we need to lean on Him for a partner, and not go out and seek without Him at the forefront. He always provides what we NEED, not necessarily what we want, but you can rest assured what He provides for us, is beautiful, pure and everlasting and satisfying to the soul.
 
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RickDeckard: none of the statements you made about church fit the church I attend. Not a single one. I know some churches that fit some of the statements you made, but those churches are in the minority here in Southwest Tennessee.

I do not mention this in an effort to get you to move here... Although I do think it would be a good idea, as this is a pretty good place to live... But to request you be careful when you are making statements that broad-brush Christian churches.

About dating and finding a spouse and all that marriage stuff... Really man, it's not as important as you are making it out to be. It's certainly not worth getting all upset over inequality and getting high blood pressure about. Cool off, live life and see what it brings. It might bring you a wife... It might not. But don't get so focused on this one aspect of life that you let it make you bitter about all the rest of life.
Oh yes, my Tennessee friends say Tennessee is absolutely wonderful. A truly beautiful place. BUT … like with jobs, Christian men shouldn't have to feel that they need to pack up and start life completely anew just to meet a woman. That is ridiculous. Especially considering that this isn't the 90s anymore; one cannot just apply to a job a distance away, get an interview, and then move … we now move completely blind to a job market, and then build up. I will not work fast food again, which is what happens when you do this … you take what you can get while you search, and you end up stuck.

But for New England and for the Midwest, the church is EXACTLY how I described it. Empty pews, with only a handful of geriatrics sitting in it.

The point again in all this is that people like maxwel are turning men away from the church with their arrogant hatred, demanding up and down for men to "pursue" women without any Biblical evidence to support that pursuit whatsoever. Without any guidance on where, or even how. Just "man up" and stop making "excuses", and "go to Hell" if you don't.

I am not angered about being single; I am quite content. It isn't in a man's nature to desire a spouse so strongly.

But what I am absolutely done with is being told that I am going to Hell EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. because I wouldn't pursue a woman even if I wanted to.

If you think that this was a heated exchange ... good Lord, you haven't seen what happens when a man acknowledges that age matters in a relationship! LOL
 

Solemateleft

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RickDeckard,
I feel your frustration, pain and can certainly appreciate your dilema... I will pray for you and pray that you are able to find strength via your faith to find the peace and resolution that your heart so desperately seeks via our lord's blessings...
I assert that while you are in the process of heightening your faith and trust that our lord hears your prayers that it couldn't hurt to create conditions for yourself that might bare fruitful...
Consider joining a local christian church group; consider seeking guidance and direction via a local pastor; consider joining a Christian "Meetup" (see links below); consider christian dating sites (see top 5 chrisitian dating sites below) - leveraging modern technology to expeditiously facilitate your opportunities.

Consider that either of the options below could still be utilized in a manner consistent with your 'mental model': 1) you increase your interaction with single christian women and 2) you can still opt to patiently await to catch the ever elusive 'interest-signal' that you hope to see.
Upside is these approaches will certainly increase you opportunities; while the downside is that you will probably become the recipient of more 'interest-signals' than you might reasonably be able to discern the genuine christian sweethearts from the master-deceivers - whom are very likely to be hidden in the mix.

Christian Singles Meetup:
https://www.meetup.com/topics/christian-singles/
Top 5 Christian Dating Sites:
https://top5-datingsites.com/christ...GJExxBLOs8H389-rvJzDO5JFR-igaTZxoC4YkQAvD_BwE

Good Luck and God Bless
 
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1. You made incorrect theological claims.

2. They're silly claims, but I went ahead and PROVED them incorrect using scripture.

3. You cannot win the argument, you cannot accept criticism, and you cannot admit you're wrong...
so you resort to childish name calling.




You actually lost an argument, so out of anger, you started calling me a girl.

Most of us grew out of this when we were 12.


1. Nope.

2. Wrong. I used Scripture to disprove you. You chose to not to respond.

3. I've won the argument. I do not accept the Satanic false teaching that is destroying marriage and the church as a result (Bible says to call people like you out, doesn't it?). I admit I'm wrong all the time … when I actually am … see, I'm wrong so infrequently that I can handle it when I am on occasion.

Oh, not the dreaded "ad hominem". Typical liberal, cast the first stone and then cry when it's hurled back harder. I reasoned with you and won with reason. Now I am mocking you, as the Bible says to do ...

"Answer a fool according to his own folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." - Proverbs 26:5

So. You want to adopt God's feminine role as your own. More power to ya! You don't like the "girl" comparison. Are you one of those "non-binary" thingies?

Awww, come on now little guy! You still cannot name EVEN ONE place to "pursue" a woman. Not. One.

You want to make the convo all about pursuit, and not at all about where "wrong" guys would even go.

Just run along now, and keep begging women to give you their affection. Like a dog.



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It can be truly said that you do not truly know someone until you step back and observe and watch their behavior and character. It is true that in this day and age, women have become more and more independent and less understanding of men, and the same could be said with men not understanding women. Fact is, that maybe, our Lord is trying to send those of us who struggle with finding a good hearted Christian man or woman, a message that we need to lean on Him for a partner, and not go out and seek without Him at the forefront. He always provides what we NEED, not necessarily what we want, but you can rest assured what He provides for us, is beautiful, pure and everlasting and satisfying to the soul.
YES!!!
 
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RickDeckard,
I feel your frustration, pain and can certainly appreciate your dilema... I will pray for you and pray that you are able to find strength via your faith to find the peace and resolution that your heart so desperately seeks via our lord's blessings...
I assert that while you are in the process of heightening your faith and trust that our lord hears your prayers that it couldn't hurt to create conditions for yourself that might bare fruitful...
Consider joining a local christian church group; consider seeking guidance and direction via a local pastor; consider joining a Christian "Meetup" (see links below); consider christian dating sites (see top 5 chrisitian dating sites below) - leveraging modern technology to expeditiously facilitate your opportunities.

Consider that either of the options below could still be utilized in a manner consistent with your 'mental model': 1) you increase your interaction with single christian women and 2) you can still opt to patiently await to catch the ever elusive 'interest-signal' that you hope to see.
Upside is these approaches will certainly increase you opportunities; while the downside is that you will probably become the recipient of more 'interest-signals' than you might reasonably be able to discern the genuine christian sweethearts from the master-deceivers - whom are very likely to be hidden in the mix.

Christian Singles Meetup:
https://www.meetup.com/topics/christian-singles/
Top 5 Christian Dating Sites:
https://top5-datingsites.com/christ...GJExxBLOs8H389-rvJzDO5JFR-igaTZxoC4YkQAvD_BwE

Good Luck and God Bless
I appreciate this. But I truly am not interested. I have been against the idea of relationships and marriage for myself my entire life, but recognize how crucial marriage is to Christianity to keep it alive. What you have seen here in this thread from maxwel and others is pure evil.

My father was murdered last summer due to ObamaCare; I have made the ultimate sacrificing as the only son to move in and care for an elderly mother while in my 20s, who is now all alone 20 years earlier than expected. These false Christians don't care about that; I am not pursuing, and therefore, I deserve Hell.

I don't have the Gift of Celibacy, but I don't have nearly enough desire to go "hunting" for sex like your average beta male; high testosterone makes you more laser focused on trying to retire as early as possible.

We live in a feminist worldview that is plaguing the church, and it just cannot handle dealing with a truly masculine man who has no need for sexual/physical intimacy. It ruins their agenda.

But the hatred has got to stop. I know single men that are on the verge of suicide not because they are single … but because of hate tactics displayed right here by people like maxwel.

Thank you for your attempt at answering my question.

For those of you who simply wanted to focus on who is supposed to pursue whom ... think long and hard about my whole post … and how you proved me right.
 

Dino246

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#50
These comments are not directed at any particular individuals, but perhaps some can gain benefit from considering them...

Being an adult, of either gender, requires taking responsibility for one's situation and one's future. There are no excuses or shortcuts.

We are not required to own the advice, criticism, or shame that others dump on us. Doing so is our choice (see above).

Romantic relationships are neither a right nor a necessity. That doesn't stop (most of) us from wanting one though.

Sometimes, life (or at least some aspects of it) really does suck.

God is good. When life sucks, lean on Him (of course, when life is good, lean on Him too!).


And finally, it is my sincere hope that the Singles Forum would become once again a place of edifying fellowship rather than acrimonious contention. We have a Bicker and Debate Bible Discussion forum for the latter.
 
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These comments are not directed at any particular individuals, but perhaps some can gain benefit from considering them...

Being an adult, of either gender, requires taking responsibility for one's situation and one's future. There are no excuses or shortcuts.

We are not required to own the advice, criticism, or shame that others dump on us. Doing so is our choice (see above).

Romantic relationships are neither a right nor a necessity. That doesn't stop (most of) us from wanting one though.

Sometimes, life (or at least some aspects of it) really does suck.

God is good. When life sucks, lean on Him (of course, when life is good, lean on Him too!).


And finally, it is my sincere hope that the Singles Forum would become once again a place of edifying fellowship rather than acrimonious contention. We have a Bicker and Debate Bible Discussion forum for the latter.
Look. Most people don’t have the “choice” between being single or being in a relationship. Men certainly don’t!

While I prefer the single life and shudder to think how awful my life would be within a relationship, the “choice” is no longer mine. It is out of my hands.

Because it is out of my hands, the CONSTANT abuse I and millions of other single Christian men face day in and day out over something we have NO SAY IN has reached its boiling point.

Men are KILLING themselves over this; don’t you dare pretend a man over 30 you attends church alone isn’t treated as either “gay” or a “creep”. Where are such men supposed to go when they are not welcome among “Christians”???

Male suicide may not be a big enough cause for you to warrant “Bicker and Debate”, but it is for me!

All of us know a single Christian man in our lives, whether they are content being single or struggle to find someone. That man goes through the hatred described above every day without pause. He hears every single day from the group that is supposed to love him best that he is NOTHING without a woman at his side. And he tries to find reasons not to kill himself; and it gets harder every day.

Think of your sons and your brothers; would like them to receive the hatred I did today? Or would you join in with maxwel and shame him?

So keep it up. Keep making men the villain. Keep hating us, and I guarantee you, there will not be a church in 15 years. And you will have to answer to God for it.
 
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theanointedsinner

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Just like John the Baptist, be the voice, speak, and stand up for yourself

“I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'” (John 1:23)
 

Dino246

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Look. Most people don’t have the “choice” between being single or being in a relationship. Men certainly don’t!

While I prefer the single life and shudder to think how awful my life would be within a relationship, the “choice” is no longer mine. It is out of my hands.

Because it is out of my hands, the CONSTANT abuse I and millions of other single Christian men face day in and day out over something we have NO SAY IN has reached its boiling point.

Men are KILLING themselves over this; don’t you dare pretend a man over 30 you attends church alone isn’t treated as either “gay” or a “creep”. Where are such men supposed to go when they are not welcome among “Christians”???

Male suicide may not be a big enough cause for you to warrant “Bicker and Debate”, but it is for me!

All of us know a single Christian man in our lives, whether they are content being single or struggle to find someone. That man goes through the hatred described above every day without pause. He hears every single day from the group that is supposed to love him best that he is NOTHING without a woman at his side. And he tries to find reasons not to kill himself; and it gets harder every day.

Think of your sons and your brothers; would like them to receive the hatred I did today? Or would you join in with maxwel and shame him?

So keep it up. Keep making men the villain. Keep hating us, and I guarantee you, there will not be a church in 15 years. And you will have to answer to God for it.
It's interesting that after I carefully avoided directing my comments at anyone in particular, you have taken them on as though directed at you personally. So, that tells me you have a chip on your shoulder. Take it to the Lord; nobody else can help you. Pour out your heart to Him like David did, and invite Him to meet you in your pain and frustration.

As for the rest, if you think being male and single in the church sucks, try being male and divorced. Actually, don't; I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
 
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It's interesting that after I carefully avoided directing my comments at anyone in particular, you have taken them on as though directed at you personally. So, that tells me you have a chip on your shoulder. Take it to the Lord; nobody else can help you. Pour out your heart to Him like David did, and invite Him to meet you in your pain and frustration.

As for the rest, if you think being male and single in the church sucks, try being male and divorced. Actually, don't; I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
AHEM.

“Being an adult, of either gender, requires taking responsibility for one's situation and one's future. There are no excuses or shortcuts.”
 
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Every single day you hear it. You cannot escape it. The sheer hatred of men in America. Namely, hatred for the single man. Democrats/feminists mock penis size, question the man's sexuality, and revert to awful attacks such as:

"Incel"
"Can't Get Laid"
"Mama's Boy"
"Commitment Issues"
"Can't Handle a Strong, Independent Woman"
"F*ggot"
"Bitter"
"Misogynist"
"Why do you hate women?"


So-called Republicans join in with insults of their own, blaming the lack of Millennial relationships on men and "porn and video games" ... the theory being that if only Millennial men would stop "masturbating" (pfft), we'd spend all of our energy on "pursuing" sex with women like the Baby Boomers did (the only generation of men ever to do so).

Baby Boomers, concerned with the harsh reality of their mortality, regret their decisions to wait until they were 40 to start having families, that now they bash their sons to provide them with grandchildren before they die. They do this by distorting what testosterone actually is, calling celibate men "weak" with "low testosterone"… and yet, in the animal kingdom … the Alpha male is the least likely to have sex, because they are more focused on tasks that are far more important and rewarding ...

Then there is the "church" … false teachers like Paul Washer instruct men to "make their desires known" immediately, and discourages building a foundation of friendship first. According to Washer, only "boys" are friends with women; and to be a friend first is "leading women on". How ridiculous. You cannot love someone without first being their friend. This is why the Friend Zone is ridiculous; you don't go on dates to "get to know" somebody; you go on dates to draw closer to someone you already know! For Christian men, a woman's beauty is not enough to warrant asking for a date.

Matt Chandler is another heretic, who instructs men to "man up" and to "grow some balls" and ask women out in the church. John MacArtur says similar, but not quite so brash. We are to "pursue" women "as Christ pursues us" … smh.

Despite the discrimination against college educated Millennials as being "over qualified", they scream from the mountain tops that young men who do not make enough under the Obama economy (we still have a long way to go before President Trump fixes all that Obama did) are "afraid to work hard". If we aren't making enough, we need to "figure it out" and provide those "resources". As one child told me on another thread, we need to "stop complaining" and "figure it out" ...

If a man says that he can't find a good woman, instantly these "Christians" call him "picky". We are told to stop seeking "super models" and that their are plenty of good women who are not necessarily attractive.

And yet, Christian men are not looking for "super models". We are looking for RUTH, and we cannot find her.

We are told that we meet Ruth within the church ... which is a flat-out LIE. No matter what church I go to, no matter what denomination, no matter what area of the country I am in … I am the only young person in church.

Young people don't attend church anymore (REAL church, with a steeple … not one of these "non-denominational" "ra ra" mega churches) … and women are certainly fewer in number than men.

But it's neither women, no man's fault; it's the Boomer's fault. I don't attend church, because I can't afford it. Because Boomers are a selfish, entitled, narcissistic generation, Millennial men and women are often stuck working on Sunday mornings. I have two college degrees, but am both "over qualified" and "lack experience". Thus, I work 64+ hours a week, on nights, weekends, holidays … and Sunday morning. If you are a young person, and you refuse to work on Sunday mornings, 9 times out of 10 … you will not have a job. It's part of the "paying dues" that Boomers insist we pay … dues that they never paid themselves.

For most Millennials, their days off (if they are lucky enough to get them) are on Monday's and Tuesday's … the absolute least social time of the week. All local events, concerts, sport outings, get-togethers … are on the weekends.

And yet, the "church" screams at single men for not pursuing.

We are forbidden to "fraternize" at work as well. I get off work at midnight. 3 nights a week, I get 1.5 hours of sleep, before driving an hour for the 2nd job. Instead of going to the bar after midnight in hopes of maybe encountering someone trashy … I'd much rather go home and relax … like an adult.

Yet, this is a taboo for such "Christians". I am committing an abominable "sin". I am "refusing" to "be fruitful and multiply".

But the worst part of it is … that these "Christians" never give any guidance or direction on where to look!

They always say to go to church … knowing full well that Millennials are working on Sunday mornings. They may say something as absurd as "public transit", when adults have their own transportation. Or it's suggestions for people living in the city, instead of those of us living in the suburbs … one of my favorites is the gym … in which most people go during the evening … when most Millennials are at … work.

So, I give up. I'll be feminine and "pursue" women and take on their role.

Where do I look???

Where does the average Millennial male (who goes months at a time without ever seeing a woman), who lives in the suburbs, works on Sundays, has his own car, lifts in the morning, who gets off of work at midnight, and cannot go to church go to encounter a woman?

What are godly Millennial women doing on Monday's and Tuesday's?

The same thing we godly Millennial men are; in comas, recovering from the same brutal work schedule we had.

"Man-up" indeed ...
Most baby boomers are retired. They did not start the Sunday work schedule. Most boomers had steady 9-5 Monday-Friday jobs. Sunday business hours started becoming a common thing during the economic boom of the late 90's to early 2000's. That's when a lot of big stores and groceries were open 24 hours and when banks started adding weekend hours.
 

Dino246

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AHEM.

“Being an adult, of either gender, requires taking responsibility for one's situation and one's future. There are no excuses or shortcuts.”
I'm sure you're trying to imply something, but my mind-reading ability is taking a day off. :)
 

LightBright

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You THINK you'll have many choices in life that you won't have. I thought I was going to be an NFL Wide Receiver; I had the speed, the hands, the strength, but not the height … and well, guess what?

You don't have a choice of when you work; they place you where they place you.
Maybe for you...but I'm not going to miss church for the sake of a job, even now when i miss church i can barely manage to survive the Christian life, without fellowship we aren't much of a church for Christ. You may settle for how things work but I won't, like i said i don't have to settle for what cards I've been delt and if it's God's will i won't work on Sundays and i believe that it is. My ideals don't necessarily have to be realistic God gets more glory when they aren't but maybe that's just how i think.
 

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Every single day you hear it. You cannot escape it. The sheer hatred of men in America. Namely, hatred for the single man. Democrats/feminists mock penis size, question the man's sexuality, and revert to awful attacks such as:

"Incel"
"Can't Get Laid"
"Mama's Boy"
"Commitment Issues"
"Can't Handle a Strong, Independent Woman"
"F*ggot"
"Bitter"
"Misogynist"
"Why do you hate women?"


So-called Republicans join in with insults of their own, blaming the lack of Millennial relationships on men and "porn and video games" ... the theory being that if only Millennial men would stop "masturbating" (pfft), we'd spend all of our energy on "pursuing" sex with women like the Baby Boomers did (the only generation of men ever to do so).

Baby Boomers, concerned with the harsh reality of their mortality, regret their decisions to wait until they were 40 to start having families, that now they bash their sons to provide them with grandchildren before they die. They do this by distorting what testosterone actually is, calling celibate men "weak" with "low testosterone"… and yet, in the animal kingdom … the Alpha male is the least likely to have sex, because they are more focused on tasks that are far more important and rewarding ...

Then there is the "church" … false teachers like Paul Washer instruct men to "make their desires known" immediately, and discourages building a foundation of friendship first. According to Washer, only "boys" are friends with women; and to be a friend first is "leading women on". How ridiculous. You cannot love someone without first being their friend. This is why the Friend Zone is ridiculous; you don't go on dates to "get to know" somebody; you go on dates to draw closer to someone you already know! For Christian men, a woman's beauty is not enough to warrant asking for a date.

Matt Chandler is another heretic, who instructs men to "man up" and to "grow some balls" and ask women out in the church. John MacArtur says similar, but not quite so brash. We are to "pursue" women "as Christ pursues us" … smh.

Despite the discrimination against college educated Millennials as being "over qualified", they scream from the mountain tops that young men who do not make enough under the Obama economy (we still have a long way to go before President Trump fixes all that Obama did) are "afraid to work hard". If we aren't making enough, we need to "figure it out" and provide those "resources". As one child told me on another thread, we need to "stop complaining" and "figure it out" ...

If a man says that he can't find a good woman, instantly these "Christians" call him "picky". We are told to stop seeking "super models" and that their are plenty of good women who are not necessarily attractive.

And yet, Christian men are not looking for "super models". We are looking for RUTH, and we cannot find her.

We are told that we meet Ruth within the church ... which is a flat-out LIE. No matter what church I go to, no matter what denomination, no matter what area of the country I am in … I am the only young person in church.

Young people don't attend church anymore (REAL church, with a steeple … not one of these "non-denominational" "ra ra" mega churches) … and women are certainly fewer in number than men.

But it's neither women, no man's fault; it's the Boomer's fault. I don't attend church, because I can't afford it. Because Boomers are a selfish, entitled, narcissistic generation, Millennial men and women are often stuck working on Sunday mornings. I have two college degrees, but am both "over qualified" and "lack experience". Thus, I work 64+ hours a week, on nights, weekends, holidays … and Sunday morning. If you are a young person, and you refuse to work on Sunday mornings, 9 times out of 10 … you will not have a job. It's part of the "paying dues" that Boomers insist we pay … dues that they never paid themselves.

For most Millennials, their days off (if they are lucky enough to get them) are on Monday's and Tuesday's … the absolute least social time of the week. All local events, concerts, sport outings, get-togethers … are on the weekends.

And yet, the "church" screams at single men for not pursuing.

We are forbidden to "fraternize" at work as well. I get off work at midnight. 3 nights a week, I get 1.5 hours of sleep, before driving an hour for the 2nd job. Instead of going to the bar after midnight in hopes of maybe encountering someone trashy … I'd much rather go home and relax … like an adult.

Yet, this is a taboo for such "Christians". I am committing an abominable "sin". I am "refusing" to "be fruitful and multiply".

But the worst part of it is … that these "Christians" never give any guidance or direction on where to look!

They always say to go to church … knowing full well that Millennials are working on Sunday mornings. They may say something as absurd as "public transit", when adults have their own transportation. Or it's suggestions for people living in the city, instead of those of us living in the suburbs … one of my favorites is the gym … in which most people go during the evening … when most Millennials are at … work.

So, I give up. I'll be feminine and "pursue" women and take on their role.

Where do I look???

Where does the average Millennial male (who goes months at a time without ever seeing a woman), who lives in the suburbs, works on Sundays, has his own car, lifts in the morning, who gets off of work at midnight, and cannot go to church go to encounter a woman?

What are godly Millennial women doing on Monday's and Tuesday's?
I
The same thing we godly Millennial men are; in comas, recovering from the same brutal work schedule we had.
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"Man-up" indeed ...
For starters, forget about finding 'Ruth' as she doesn't exist but there are plenty of single Christian women to consider.

The term 'Millennial' is simply a marketing ploy designed to sell products and services. I am not sure where you are coming from about single men being denigrated, especially by Democrats and feminist as if anyone really cares what they think. There might be something to the video game and porn angle that may in some way inhibit seeking a healthy opposite sex relationship.

I don't know of any baby boomers, who I am part of, regretting their decision to wait until their 40's to settle down, in fact, most didn't wait that long. I got married at 23, again at 47, and finally at 59.

A woman's beauty is should definitely be part of the equation but then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I believe that it is wise to look at a woman's heart first, if she is beautiful inside she will be beautiful outside as well.

From my own experience and observation is that a lot of men are not seeking friendship first, but hopefully the one you find becomes your best friend.

Where do you look? Just about anywhere. Next time your at your local 7/Eleven at the counter paying for your Slurpee, take a chance and give that cute single woman at the register your phone number.

It is a shame you have to work so many hours each week, especially since you have 2 college degrees.

Perhaps these single Godly women are at the laundry mat on Monday and Tuesday. I created a thread called "Laundry Mat' that you might want to check out. This can be a very good place to observe single women in action that are willing to assist a helpless single man attempting to wash his clothes.

There are plenty of places to find a woman besides church. I met my current, and last wife, who is also a member on this site so anything is possible.

My counsel td you is to stop listening to those in the church for advice about how to find a woman.

Not sure why you blame Baby Boomers for the lack of romance in you life either. I spent a good part of my working life working long hours too, nights, weekends, holidays so you're not the only one.

That 'child' that said to stop complaining and figure it out gave sound counsel.

You seem very bitter and have a chip on you shoulder as well. Not a good combination.
 

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Oh yes, my Tennessee friends say Tennessee is absolutely wonderful. A truly beautiful place. BUT … like with jobs, Christian men shouldn't have to feel that they need to pack up and start life completely anew just to meet a woman. That is ridiculous. Especially considering that this isn't the 90s anymore; one cannot just apply to a job a distance away, get an interview, and then move … we now move completely blind to a job market, and then build up. I will not work fast food again, which is what happens when you do this … you take what you can get while you search, and you end up stuck.

But for New England and for the Midwest, the church is EXACTLY how I described it. Empty pews, with only a handful of geriatrics sitting in it.

The point again in all this is that people like maxwel are turning men away from the church with their arrogant hatred, demanding up and down for men to "pursue" women without any Biblical evidence to support that pursuit whatsoever. Without any guidance on where, or even how. Just "man up" and stop making "excuses", and "go to Hell" if you don't.

I am not angered about being single; I am quite content. It isn't in a man's nature to desire a spouse so strongly.

But what I am absolutely done with is being told that I am going to Hell EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. because I wouldn't pursue a woman even if I wanted to.

If you think that this was a heated exchange ... good Lord, you haven't seen what happens when a man acknowledges that age matters in a relationship! LOL
You really need to visit a church like mine. Maybe not my church, as I have no idea how much the commute would cost, but definitely some kind of church like mine. I have never even heard of the things your church is claiming.
 
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Most baby boomers are retired. They did not start the Sunday work schedule. Most boomers had steady 9-5 Monday-Friday jobs. Sunday business hours started becoming a common thing during the economic boom of the late 90's to early 2000's. That's when a lot of big stores and groceries were open 24 hours and when banks started adding weekend hours.
Most Boomers ARE NOT retired. They DID start the ALL YOUNG PEOPLE ONLY must work Sunday. And they started the working on holiday fiasco.

Own up to it.
Maybe for you...but I'm not going to miss church for the sake of a job, even now when i miss church i can barely manage to survive the Christian life, without fellowship we aren't much of a church for Christ. You may settle for how things work but I won't, like i said i don't have to settle for what cards I've been delt and if it's God's will i won't work on Sundays and i believe that it is. My ideals don't necessarily have to be realistic God gets more glory when they aren't but maybe that's just how i think.
Good luck STARVING to death then, KID! This isn't "settling"; this is ALL THERE IS, until these evil people die out or FINALLY retire. You CLEARLY have yet to hold down a job! Just you wait. You tell an employer you can't work Sundays, and you'll see just how quickly the job offers stop coming.