Question(s) to those who believe salvation can be lost

Your response is most confusing. You say he might have been saved or he might be still lost but just so long as he doesn't 'cease' to believe in Jesus . . . he'll be all right.

You are saying that a person can live a life of sin no matter how degrading, as long as he doesn't 'cease' believing in Jesus?

Are you saying that you have a modified anti-OSAS view?

Because gosh, you can't have this guy lose his salvation now can you, because that would mean that he could never get it back (according to your earlier statement). And we both know the problem you will have with that theory, right?

Live as wicked at the Devil, only, just don't stop believing, and you'll be okay.

Here is your earlier statement . . .

My stance has always been consistent..

We are saved by Believing Jesus and Trusting in the atonement He secured for our salvation..

It is NOT based upon our performance in sin elimination or good works frequency..

Also i have added that Willfully sinning after being saved ( which is different to sinning ) does disqualify one from salvation..

Also i have stated before the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin that shall never have forgiveness in this world or the next..

As for the guy in question in the scriptures you quoted.. I do not say either way if He was saved or if He was not saved,, If his sinning was willful or not.. We can only go on the information provided.. And the information does not reveal this information..

Also i have added that Willfully sinning after being saved ( which is different to sinning ) does disqualify one from salvation..

You mean, like the police? What worldly authorities? Are you saying the lieutenants of the 'prince of the power of the air?'

I'll stick with Satan . . . that's what the text says and I see no reason for the ambiguity.

And where do you get 'executed?'

If he was executed then how does he show up again in II Corinthians?

Worldly kingdoms are not our Kingdom... Jesus said::

John 18: KJV
35 "Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done? {36} Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

I'll stick with Jesus...

Destruction of the flesh = execution..

And i never said He was executed.. I said that Paul advised them to hand the man over to the worldly authorities to be executed.. I never said that did..

He was not dead so he could not have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. You can't be forgiven once you are dead. You are not saying that there are two unforgivable sins, are you?

I guess these aren't really people then?

What has death to do with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? The Scribe who committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit by claiming that Jesus was possessed by a demon was not executed on the spot.. And anyway where did i ever say that people get executed for bl;asphemy of the Holy Spirit ??? I never said such a thing at all... Please take time to read my replies.. You replies are coming in very fast which leads me to believe you are responding way to quickly..

There is only one unforgivable sin.. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. All other sins can be forgiven if we believe jesus and trust in the atonement Jesus secured for our salvation..

What???? Please expand your posts to include whom you are saying are not people..

Did this guy willfully sin? Paul says he was a Christian. How? Because he was a member of the church - and Paul writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit would clearly have made a distinction if the guy were lost. Paul wasn't fooled.

"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (I Corinthians 5:11-13).

The man was a BROTHER . . .

So you say a person can still be saved after they die?

I did not say the guy willfully sinned....... You are definitely NOT reading my replies..

Now you are pasting positions onto me that i have not stated...

Your totally losing it...

You stated that only by willfully sinning could one be lost and could never be saved again. You tried to suggest that this guy was not a believer . . . or that you couldn't say one way or the other.

You have backed yourself into a corner.

Seriously? Read the passage I supplied . . . Romans 13. Worldly authorities can't mean one thing in one passage and then another somewhere else.

You know, I'm really not posting to you at all . . . there are a lot of searching souls that are looking for answers. I have given them a glimpse of speculation vs. authority. I leave the results to God.

Did this guy willfully sin? Paul says he was a Christian. How? Because he was a member of the church - and Paul writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit would clearly have made a distinction if the guy were lost. Paul wasn't fooled.

"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (I Corinthians 5:11-13).

The man was a BROTHER . . .

Seriously? Read the passage I supplied . . . Romans 13. Worldly authorities can't mean one thing in one passage and then another somewhere else.

Paul didn't say he was a brother, stop adding your errant theology to God's word. He said a man that is "called" a brother. Get your act together and stop distorting the word of God.

If this is the case, that willful sin causes one to lose salvation then I got some bad news people! Very few, if anyone is saved.