The Mighty Call of a Donkey..

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I woke up thinking about a donkey, lol, actually about a specific donkey, Balaam's Jack Arse.

My first thought was, no wonder people don't believe the word. I know, my momentary feelings of disbelief are shameful. I get it. Bare with me please, it's just that I thought, “come on, donkey's don't have the anatomy for speech, even if they had the ability to reason”. The way their jaws and mouths operate, it is impossible. If this story isn't true, then how can any of the bible be true? I have moments like these, reading things that seem just too far fetched, like when I read about nephlims.

When these skeptical thoughts surface, I stop dead in my tracks of doubt. I attempt to reason instead. Maybe, He just telepathically heard thoughts of the donkey, or maybe this or maybe that. Nooooo, this is not how my faith is to work. I don't accept Him or the history of events shared in His word, based on my ability to substantiate or fathom the possibility. I am to believe, period, end of story.

I do accept that the angel of God made it possible for the creature to talk, so that Balaam would be compelled to give a blessing. I think we can take another cool component out of this information about His creatures. I think this speaks to the awareness of animals, even their intelligence. I do think animals will be a part of the Heavenly design. I know folks believe that the animals told of, in that glorious estate to come, are just symbolic. I think that with some it may be true, but not completely, not all. I know He made animals for us and for each other other. More importantly, He,having all He ever needs, made everything for His pleasure, including animals with their own set of possibilities.

Yes, I find the story of Balaam and His donkey of awareness and communication interesting, and hard to imagine. However, I take great pleasure in seeing His power, using the lesser of beings, ones not made for such things, to show things mighty and worthy. I think it also demonstrates the mercy and connection He shares with all His creation. I love how the donkey's role in the word has been super substantial. Upon the back of one rode our Mary as they, her and Joseph, were looking for a place to have their baby, our King. Amazingly, this Majestic and Worthy King, our Lord and Savior, also set upon a donkey, as He entered the city of Jerusalem, boldly demonstrating His beautiful heart and mind of a humble servant. We often ponder are we called, do we matter? Can we really make a difference for our Lord? I think the answer is not only found in the mighty men and women's accounts given in the bible. We see even the simple minded, so called lowly, animals being called by God for a prestigious job of honor. How inspiring it is knowing that even stubborn creatures like donkeys have callings. May we all answer His call.

Here is an interesting video regarding animals talking:

 
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I woke up thinking about a donkey, lol, actually about a specific donkey, Balaam's Jack Arse.

My first thought was, no wonder people don't believe the word. I know, my momentary feelings of disbelief are shameful. I get it. Bare with me please, it's just that I thought, “come on, donkey's don't have the anatomy for speech, even if they had the ability to reason”. The way their jaws and mouths operate, it is impossible. If this story isn't true, then how can any of the bible be true? I have moments like these, reading things that seem just too far fetched, like when I read about nephlims.

When these skeptical thoughts surface, I stop dead in my tracks of doubt. I attempt to reason instead. Maybe, He just telepathically heard thoughts of the donkey, or maybe this or maybe that. Nooooo, this is not how my faith is to work. I don't accept Him or the history of events shared in His word, based on my ability to substantiate or fathom the possibility. I am to believe, period, end of story.

I do accept that the angel of God made it possible for the creature to talk, so that Balaam would be compelled to give a blessing. I think we can take another cool component out of this information about His creatures. I think this speaks to the awareness of animals, even their intelligence. I do think animals will be a part of the Heavenly design. I know folks believe that the animals told of, in that glorious estate to come, are just symbolic. I think that with some it may be true, but not completely, not all. I know He made animals for us and for each other other. More importantly, He,having all He ever needs, made everything for His pleasure, including animals with their own set of possibilities.

Yes, I find the story of Balaam and His donkey of awareness and communication interesting, and hard to imagine. However, I take great pleasure in seeing His power, using the lesser of beings, ones not made for such things, to show things mighty and worthy. I think it also demonstrates the mercy and connection He shares with all His creation. I love how the donkey's role in the word has been super substantial. Upon the back of one rode our Mary as they, her and Joseph, were looking for a place to have their baby, our King. Amazingly, this Majestic and Worthy King, our Lord and Savior, also set upon a donkey, as He entered the city of Jerusalem, boldly demonstrating His beautiful heart and mind of a humble servant. We often ponder are we called, do we matter? Can we really make a difference for our Lord? I think the answer is not only found in the mighty men and women's accounts given in the bible. We see even the simple minded, so called lowly, animals being called by God for a prestigious job of honor. How inspiring it is knowing that even stubborn creatures like donkeys have callings. May we all answer His call.


CharliRenee. Always a pleasure to read your long long informative insightful post.😂😂😂 (Just kidding).

Just to show you your in good company when I was giving a teaching about Jesus entering Jerusalem and came to the part where his reply was if he hushed the crowd the stones would sing.....well....I believe that they would....truly.
Our God is the God of the impossible, the unbelievable, if he could make all of this out of nothing....hey who are we to say.
That donkey God's humor.....balaam talking back.....priceless.

Thank you saint
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Here is an interesting video regarding animals talking:

The book of Jubilee is not scripture but is a oral tradition of men.

Satan who has no form at that time in the garden, desiring to be like God spoke and put his words in the mouth of a creature therefore taking away the faith of God .

What ever it looked like before the deception it now has changed it form possibly removing its legs to give it a crawl used as a symbol of unbelief (no faith) and the poison to represent false prophecy .

God used a animal Ass later to show he is not served by the creature in any way shape or form in Numbers. neither does he dwlell in temples worshipped with human hands
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p_rehbein

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I fully support women in the Ministry, but where are we getting this idea that Balaam's donkey was a female? They can be either sex.......ergo the continued existence of the species.

just saying

Donkey - Wikipedia

A male donkey or ass is called a jack, a female a jenny or jennet;[3][4][5] a young donkey is a foal.[5] Jack donkeys are often used to mate with female horses to produce mules; the biological "reciprocal" of a mule, from a stallion and jenny as its parents instead, is called a hinny.
 

Zmouth

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Maybe because it is written, "And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times: unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive." Numbers 22:33
 
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The parable set aside in Exodus 13 represents a male, as the first born of mankind (male and female) Male he made him, mankind (One creation, male and female) Male separately and female separately he made them. The animals, the non human kind.

That thou shalt set apart unto the Lord all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the Lord's.And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.Exousus 13:12-13
 

Zmouth

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I woke up thinking about a donkey, lol, actually about a specific donkey, Balaam's Jack Arse.
Nothing in the scriptures infer the donkey was a jack. A donkey, which can be referred unto as an 'ass' is a species not a a gender.

Everything speaks and has voice.
Ever living creature has a spirit yet only man created in the image and likeness of the LORD has the ability to speak (communicate using the word). So no everything doesn't speak.

Only man created in the image and likeness of the LORD has can speak using their voice (communicating using the audible word)

And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice. Deut 4:12
 

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Nothing in the scriptures infer the donkey was a jack. A donkey, which can be referred unto as an 'ass' is a species not a a gender.



Ever living creature has a spirit yet only man created in the image and likeness of the LORD has the ability to speak (communicate using the word). So no everything doesn't speak.

Only man created in the image and likeness of the LORD has can speak using their voice (communicating using the audible word)

And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice. Deut 4:12
Yeah, I wish I had left jack out of it, thank u Zmouth
 

CharliRenee

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The parable set aside in Exodus 13 represents a male, as the first born of mankind (male and female) Male he made him, mankind (One creation, male and female) Male separately and female separately he made them. The animals, the non human kind.

That thou shalt set apart unto the Lord all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the Lord's.And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.Exousus 13:12-13
I need to study this cus it is confusing to me. I am now doing an exodus study, so this is good for me to see, but I need some time with this.
 

CharliRenee

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I fully support women in the Ministry, but where are we getting this idea that Balaam's donkey was a female? They can be either sex.......ergo the continued existence of the species.

just saying

Donkey - Wikipedia

A male donkey or ass is called a jack, a female a jenny or jennet;[3][4][5] a young donkey is a foal.[5] Jack donkeys are often used to mate with female horses to produce mules; the biological "reciprocal" of a mule, from a stallion and jenny as its parents instead, is called a hinny.
I think men should be the leaders in ministry but we offer a voice, and contribute to a discussion and to the body of Christ. Hey P_ I did not know this about Donkeys you have taught me stuff, once again. Thanks Bro.
 

CharliRenee

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The book of Jubilee is not scripture but is a oral tradition of men.

Satan who has no form at that time in the garden, desiring to be like God spoke and put his words in the mouth of a creature therefore taking away the faith of God .

What ever it looked like before the deception it now has changed it form possibly removing its legs to give it a crawl used as a symbol of unbelief (no faith) and the poison to represent false prophecy .

God used a animal Ass later to show he is not served by the creature in any way shape or form in Numbers. neither does he dwlell in temples worshipped with human hands
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Again you show me I have so much to learn Garee
 

CharliRenee

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Everything speaks and has voice.....deer have over 220 vocalizations.....experiments have shown that even buckets of minnows are filled with super high frequency communication, whales sing songs and the stanza changes every year and yet they all sing the same thing world wide<-----DAY unto DAY and NIGHT unto Night utters speech that is heard by ALL of the creation and NO voice is beyond the ability to be heard and or understood.......I have personally watched deer do things that can only be described as communication and I am not the only one.....a particular event comes to mind....a friend was bow hunting once and viewed a doe and a fawn feeding for about 45 minutes....all of a sudden the doe looked at the fawn and my buddy noticed the doe's mouth moving but he could not hear a thing from where he was..about 50 yards away....the fawn was looking intently at the doe and it without hesitation turned and hopped about 15 yards into some thick grass and lay down....the doe turned and walked away in the opposite direction and disappeared over the rise.....about 2 hours later the doe returned and stopped about 30 yards from the grass and grunted....out came the fawn and they went on their way...........

I have seen things like this as well...........amongst other things.......just some things to ponder...
Thanks Brother D, very interesting read. Thanks for sharing. I admire His work so much!!!
 

CharliRenee

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If God wants a jackass to speak, a jackass will speak.
If God said Jonah was swallowed by a fish, he was swallowed by a fish.
Someone might say what kind of fish can swallow a man and the man be able to live inside. I say the kind that God put there for that reason.
How did Sampson defeat an arm with the jaw bone of an ass for a weapon? By the power of the spirit of God upon him.
How did the sea part?
Water come from a rock?
Noah build a giant boat and the world flood?
How did Jesus rise from the grave? Walk on water? Feed the thousands?
We believe in the miraculous power of God. A good read of Job puts things in perspective
BAM, very good point. I guess He puts the Super in Supernatural
 

Zmouth

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Zech 9:9
9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Some say he will be riding a hinny bareback.:whistle:
 

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Whoa that is soooo interesting.i will be googling the book of jubilee, interesting. Wonders who wrote that book.
Just be careful dabbling with those extra canonical books: Enoch - Jubilees - etc. There are reasons they were left out of accepted Christian literature. Enoch is where they get nephilim are angels mating with humans. The word nephilim simply means bully or brutish. Only one spirit is able to impregnate a human and that only happened once (the HS - Jesus).
 

CharliRenee

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Just be careful dabbling with those extra canonical books: Enoch - Jubilees - etc. There are reasons they were left out of accepted Christian literature. Enoch is where they get nephilim are angels mating with humans. The word nephilim simply means bully or brutish. Only one spirit is able to impregnate a human and that only happened once (the HS - Jesus).
Oh thank you, now see this is all so interesting. Kk, yes, I think it best to proceed with extreme caution with studying anything noncanonical. Thank you.