Parallels in Hinduism

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I will start with the disclaimer that I am not a Hindu.

When my kids are missing something, I tell them to look for it. When they return empty handed I tell them, “Now look in the places it shouldn’t be.” That’s usually where it is. Jesus told us to seek and we will find. He didn’t say keep looking through Scripture until you do. On my quest for truth, I have found many missing puzzle pieces in places that were unexpected.

When one believes that he is right, the assumption that all who disagree are wrong. We then stop listening, focussing our minds on rebuttal, opposed to understanding their view. God said, “He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.” I find it interesting that this is the key principle of the Hindu triune godhead. Brahman is their god, complete in three personas; Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the sustainer) and Shiva (the destroyer). Essentially the beginning and the end. Shiva makes an appearance in Revelation 9:11 (I just realized it was 9/11), Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon, the Destroyer, the angel of the bottomless pit. This is no surprise why Shiva, is the face of CERN, the large hadron collider. These scientists are practicing functional witchcraft and reportedly opening dimensions.

My point is that words are audible/legible thoughts. We write things down as a more permanent record. Those who wrote things down thousands of years ago were trying to tell us something. We often ignore the message because of the expression or the messenger. It doesn’t mean those who saw something significant enough to write them down, should be dismissed based on collective belief.

When a scared child says something is outside their window, you don’t say, “No, there’s not.” You examine and solve the mystery. Civilizations have left us clues, or puzzle pieces so that we can hopefully gather and form an image. This isn’t universalism. I’m not saying that the boogeyman, and the tree outside the window are equally true. I’m stating that people have been intelligent and forming beliefs based on observations for a long time. It is in our best interest to evaluate what the thoughts were that seeded these belief systems to give us a greater understanding of our world and our future.
 

OneFaith

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I will start with the disclaimer that I am not a Hindu.

When my kids are missing something, I tell them to look for it. When they return empty handed I tell them, “Now look in the places it shouldn’t be.” That’s usually where it is. Jesus told us to seek and we will find. He didn’t say keep looking through Scripture until you do. On my quest for truth, I have found many missing puzzle pieces in places that were unexpected.

When one believes that he is right, the assumption that all who disagree are wrong. We then stop listening, focussing our minds on rebuttal, opposed to understanding their view. God said, “He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.” I find it interesting that this is the key principle of the Hindu triune godhead. Brahman is their god, complete in three personas; Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the sustainer) and Shiva (the destroyer). Essentially the beginning and the end. Shiva makes an appearance in Revelation 9:11 (I just realized it was 9/11), Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon, the Destroyer, the angel of the bottomless pit. This is no surprise why Shiva, is the face of CERN, the large hadron collider. These scientists are practicing functional witchcraft and reportedly opening dimensions.

My point is that words are audible/legible thoughts. We write things down as a more permanent record. Those who wrote things down thousands of years ago were trying to tell us something. We often ignore the message because of the expression or the messenger. It doesn’t mean those who saw something significant enough to write them down, should be dismissed based on collective belief.

When a scared child says something is outside their window, you don’t say, “No, there’s not.” You examine and solve the mystery. Civilizations have left us clues, or puzzle pieces so that we can hopefully gather and form an image. This isn’t universalism. I’m not saying that the boogeyman, and the tree outside the window are equally true. I’m stating that people have been intelligent and forming beliefs based on observations for a long time. It is in our best interest to evaluate what the thoughts were that seeded these belief systems to give us a greater understanding of our world and our future.
There is no future except hell for those who make or follow man-made doctrines. "They worship Me in vain, their doctrine is merely human rules." "The word of God equips man with everything that is needed." Therefore I disagree with you, we need not to look to mankind but to God's word for understanding and salvation. Whatever usful enlightenment you think you found outside the bible is in the bible, you just didn't find it there yet.
 

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I will start with the disclaimer that I am not a Hindu.

When my kids are missing something, I tell them to look for it. When they return empty handed I tell them, “Now look in the places it shouldn’t be.” That’s usually where it is. Jesus told us to seek and we will find. He didn’t say keep looking through Scripture until you do. On my quest for truth, I have found many missing puzzle pieces in places that were unexpected.

When one believes that he is right, the assumption that all who disagree are wrong. We then stop listening, focussing our minds on rebuttal, opposed to understanding their view. God said, “He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.” I find it interesting that this is the key principle of the Hindu triune godhead. Brahman is their god, complete in three personas; Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the sustainer) and Shiva (the destroyer). Essentially the beginning and the end. Shiva makes an appearance in Revelation 9:11 (I just realized it was 9/11), Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon, the Destroyer, the angel of the bottomless pit. This is no surprise why Shiva, is the face of CERN, the large hadron collider. These scientists are practicing functional witchcraft and reportedly opening dimensions.

My point is that words are audible/legible thoughts. We write things down as a more permanent record. Those who wrote things down thousands of years ago were trying to tell us something. We often ignore the message because of the expression or the messenger. It doesn’t mean those who saw something significant enough to write them down, should be dismissed based on collective belief.

When a scared child says something is outside their window, you don’t say, “No, there’s not.” You examine and solve the mystery. Civilizations have left us clues, or puzzle pieces so that we can hopefully gather and form an image. This isn’t universalism. I’m not saying that the boogeyman, and the tree outside the window are equally true. I’m stating that people have been intelligent and forming beliefs based on observations for a long time. It is in our best interest to evaluate what the thoughts were that seeded these belief systems to give us a greater understanding of our world and our future.
Does it not make a different which believe System you have? For example. An humanist has an different Picture of the World then a christian ore an Hindu ore an Moslem. The People in this believe systems Living in the same World and make the same observations. Their conclusions should be the same. But they are not. Because of their believe systems. A believe System is only worth what is behind it to make it come True.
For example: has Jesus Christ not Risen from the death, then the christianity is nothing worth. ( 1. Cor. Chapter 15)
People can be superintelligent ( like Hawkins), the majority of mankind can represent a certain view. But Intelligence and majority are no indicator that something is right.
Of course you can trust in any believe system, but I would ask myself what is behind that, what gives me the assurance that this is right.
For me i found out that I can trust God and His Word, which we find only in the Bible. For to understand our World and the future I dont Need more.
 
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There is no future except hell for those who make or follow man-made doctrines. "They worship Me in vain, their doctrine is merely human rules." "The word of God equips man with everything that is needed." Therefore I disagree with you, we need not to look to mankind but to God's word for understanding and salvation. Whatever usful enlightenment you think you found outside the bible is in the bible, you just didn't find it there yet.
I think you missed the point. Since God is everywhere and everlasting, do you suppose others until now have not caught a glimpse of Him? Even in their incomplete understanding there is still intelligent observation. We see their flawed interpretation because we can hold it up to the light of scripture. Rather than telling them they are wrong because we are right, it is beneficial to understand their perspective, so we can illuminate their misconceptions. All you need is to go through a few threads in the the Bible discussion forum to see that there is division because of flawed understanding by those who study the Bible exclusively. The Pharisees thought they too had the market cornered in truth, and missed the long awaited Messiah. Are you so abundantly sure that it can’t happen again? They trusted in their books, as you do yours. They sought no other council because they knew everything. Everything....but the most important thing. At the judgement, it’s not going to be a Bible trivia entrance exam. We will be judged, not on knowledge, but rather application of knowledge. There are those who do a better job following the Commandments and loving others based on personal convictions than “born again” believers.

I am interested in knowing the Father so I look for reminants of Him everywhere. The more I seek Him, the more I find Him. Gold exists all over the world. Just because you find enough abundance in one mine to satisfy a majority of miners doesn’t mean you found it all. Truth is my gold. Finding it all is my passion.
 
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Hinduism does not contain the truth....it has thousands of gods, peddles reincarnation and this thread should not be allowed on a site about the BIBLE.....

FAITH comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD OF GOD....not some VEDA or BOOK by HINDU's........
 
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Hinduism does not contain the truth....it has thousands of gods, peddles reincarnation and this thread should not be allowed on a site about the BIBLE.....

FAITH comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD OF GOD....not some VEDA or BOOK by HINDU's........
Again point missed! I’m not saying that people should convert to Hinduism, nor accept Vedas or reincarnation. I’m saying basically, if we are the salt of the earth, then we need to get out of the salt shaker. What is the point of Christians debating Christians. We spend our time here either patting eachother on the back or calling out heresy to views we disagree with. Most of us don’t have the slightest idea what other cultures believe. We only have been told they are wrong. My point is, why do they think they are right? What is so clear to them that eludes us. What’s in their koolaid? Reason being; they are saying the same things about us. I’m not saying yoga brings salvation, but I’m interested to know why they think it brings them to Nirvana. Their goal is to be one day achieve oneness with Brahman, the god of gods. Is it not interesting, that is essentially what we achieve, becoming the body of Christ? We are One with our Creator. Would that not be a helpful connection when witnessing to a Hindu? Are we too full of ourselves to be taught by children?

You gain listeners, or hearers of the Word by pointing to similarities, not differences. In my opinion, that their god is considered to be the first and the last and ours is the First and the Last would be a fantastic conversation starter.
 

Hevosmies

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Hinduism does not contain the truth....it has thousands of gods, peddles reincarnation and this thread should not be allowed on a site about the BIBLE.....

FAITH comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD OF GOD....not some VEDA or BOOK by HINDU's........
I want to add as well: The OP is in ERROR claiming the hindus have a TRINITY. they DO NOT. its a UNIQUE christian Godhead.

They have TRITHEISM, it is DIFFERENT from trinity. Trinity is one GOD.
Triheism is THREE gods.

Lets get that out of the way
 
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I will start with the disclaimer that I am not a Hindu.

When my kids are missing something, I tell them to look for it. When they return empty handed I tell them, “Now look in the places it shouldn’t be.” That’s usually where it is. Jesus told us to seek and we will find. He didn’t say keep looking through Scripture until you do. On my quest for truth, I have found many missing puzzle pieces in places that were unexpected.

When one believes that he is right, the assumption that all who disagree are wrong. We then stop listening, focussing our minds on rebuttal, opposed to understanding their view. God said, “He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.” I find it interesting that this is the key principle of the Hindu triune godhead. Brahman is their god, complete in three personas; Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the sustainer) and Shiva (the destroyer). Essentially the beginning and the end. Shiva makes an appearance in Revelation 9:11 (I just realized it was 9/11), Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon, the Destroyer, the angel of the bottomless pit. This is no surprise why Shiva, is the face of CERN, the large hadron collider. These scientists are practicing functional witchcraft and reportedly opening dimensions.

My point is that words are audible/legible thoughts. We write things down as a more permanent record. Those who wrote things down thousands of years ago were trying to tell us something. We often ignore the message because of the expression or the messenger. It doesn’t mean those who saw something significant enough to write them down, should be dismissed based on collective belief.

When a scared child says something is outside their window, you don’t say, “No, there’s not.” You examine and solve the mystery. Civilizations have left us clues, or puzzle pieces so that we can hopefully gather and form an image. This isn’t universalism. I’m not saying that the boogeyman, and the tree outside the window are equally true. I’m stating that people have been intelligent and forming beliefs based on observations for a long time. It is in our best interest to evaluate what the thoughts were that seeded these belief systems to give us a greater understanding of our world and our future.

I know what your trying to say or at least I think I do. There are many similarities in many beliefs, tradition,and cultures.
Are we to embrace these things as a broad stroke of God's understanding?....God forbid.
Scripture tells us there is a way that seems right but the ends of it is destruction. During Moses time the magicians of pharaoh duplicate what Moses was told to do by God . But when it came to life or death they were powerless.
Abraham made and sold idols in his father's shop. He was pagan untill the true and living God showed him there is only one God.
Offering up Isaac was a common ritual in that day. But it was to be not so for the true and living God. God will provide the sacrifice.
We have a foundation that our faith is established on. Christ is the cheif corner Stone of it. Without him it will crumble.
Man has a moral intellect of right and wrong that God has placed in his very being. That moral compass can become polluted with thoughts and ideas that we will be as gods.
My friend stay on the narrow road which is truth.....no man comes to the father except through me...(Jesus).
 

Nehemiah6

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I think you missed the point. Since God is everywhere and everlasting, do you suppose others until now have not caught a glimpse of Him?
The answer is in Romans 1.

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For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


Hinduism is one of the most idolatrous religions in the world. The number of gods they believe in is astounding. But they also know that there is one true God. So they are without excuse.
 
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I want to add as well: The OP is in ERROR claiming the hindus have a TRINITY. they DO NOT. its a UNIQUE christian Godhead.

They have TRITHEISM, it is DIFFERENT from trinity. Trinity is one GOD.
Triheism is THREE gods.

Lets get that out of the way
You are in error. They believe their three are manifestations of the one, just as we do. Look it up, whatever you call it.
 

Hevosmies

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Again point missed! I’m not saying that people should convert to Hinduism, nor accept Vedas or reincarnation. I’m saying basically, if we are the salt of the earth, then we need to get out of the salt shaker. What is the point of Christians debating Christians. We spend our time here either patting eachother on the back or calling out heresy to views we disagree with. Most of us don’t have the slightest idea what other cultures believe. We only have been told they are wrong. My point is, why do they think they are right? What is so clear to them that eludes us. What’s in their koolaid? Reason being; they are saying the same things about us. I’m not saying yoga brings salvation, but I’m interested to know why they think it brings them to Nirvana. Their goal is to be one day achieve oneness with Brahman, the god of gods. Is it not interesting, that is essentially what we achieve, becoming the body of Christ? We are One with our Creator. Would that not be a helpful connection when witnessing to a Hindu?
First of all: I DO KNOW about other religions, quite a bit in fact. But the prophets of Ba'al are not to be DEBATED or RESPECTED, thats not the Elijah way of doing things.

They think they are right because they have been born into a pagan culture with pagan gods, and have been brainwashed into it and the ones that delve deeper into it are possessed by devils. Simple.
Deceiving and being deceived.

A helpful connection is not needed when witnessing to a hindu. Here is the needed confession: Ask them if they've ever lied, then tell them they are a sinner going to hell, but the GOOD NEWS, is that God sent His only begotten Son to die on the Cross and shed His blood for their sins, that He was buried and rose again the third day and is sittting at the right side of the Father, COMING BACK one of these days.
The repent and believe message, instead of the "We have something in common, lets have tea" message.

Thats how you win people to Christ.
 

Hevosmies

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You are in error. They believe their three are manifestations of the one, just as we do. Look it up, whatever you call it.
We (that would be the Christians) dont believe in three manifestations. I got no idea what you believe, sounds like ONeness pentecostal stuff. Modalism?
 
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I know what your trying to say or at least I think I do. There are many similarities in many beliefs, tradition,and cultures.
Are we to embrace these things as a broad stroke of God's understanding?....God forbid.
Scripture tells us there is a way that seems right but the ends of it is destruction. During Moses time the magicians of pharaoh duplicate what Moses was told to do by God . But when it came to life or death they were powerless.
Abraham made and sold idols in his father's shop. He was pagan untill the true and living God showed him there is only one God.
Offering up Isaac was a common ritual in that day. But it was to be not so for the true and living God. God will provide the sacrifice.
We have a foundation that our faith is established on. Christ is the cheif corner Stone of it. Without him it will crumble.
Man has a moral intellect of right and wrong that God has placed in his very being. That moral compass can become polluted with thoughts and ideas that we will be as gods.
My friend stay on the narrow road which is truth.....no man comes to the father except through me...(Jesus).
I don’t disagree, and am treading firmly on the narrow path. I’m not trying to learn new truth, just gaining clearer focus on what is already accepted, yet blurry. Like I stated before scientists are not stupid people. They just misinterpret the data based on false pretence. By learning what they know, I’m not changing my belief on Who made the Universe, just how He made the Universe.
 
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We (that would be the Christians) dont believe in three manifestations. I got no idea what you believe, sounds like ONeness pentecostal stuff. Modalism?
Ok, what do we Christians believe?
 

Dino246

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Most of the responses to the OP are sad reflections of closed-mindedness, self-righteousness, fear mongering, and generally missing the point.

This is a Bible Discussion forum. Why do we automatically assume that anyone who presents an unfamiliar idea is promoting error? Are we all-knowing? Are we incapable of listening, assuming the best of people, and thinking before speaking (writing)?
 
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Your article is a perfect example of why people who read their King James Bible alone expecting understanding, resort to it being a mystery unexplainable to humans. The Bible doesn’t say there is one god, it says there is one God. Look up the meanings of the words to figure out what I stated. Or when you finish calling me a heretic, you can just return to patting yourself on the back.

We don’t serve a God of confusion. The answers are all within reach, you just have to open your eyes to see them. I serve The Almighty Father and have been ransomed by Yeshua, His Son, The Christ. I have no other interest in this life other than knowing Him and serving Him. Because I ask, I have received. Because I seek, I find. Instead of debating me, and condemning my ignorance you should listening. Christ never gained one follower by threatening believe or suffer tactics. That’s how He angered the religious leaders of the day. Regardless, I have some work to do. I guess I should have expected such controversy just by putting Hindu in the title. Oh well, no sense choking on meat.
 
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Most of the responses to the OP are sad reflections of closed-mindedness, self-righteousness, fear mongering, and generally missing the point.

This is a Bible Discussion forum. Why do we automatically assume that anyone who presents an unfamiliar idea is promoting error? Are we all-knowing? Are we incapable of listening, assuming the best of people, and thinking before speaking (writing)?
I’m not following. It looked like you started with a steady round of backhanders followed up with defending me. I’m not really sure how to interpret this.
 
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I’m not following. It looked like you started with a steady round of backhanders followed up with defending me. I’m not really sure how to interpret this.
To the OP... not of the OP. Thanks, got it!