Sheep and goats. Separate from, or same as The great white throne judgment?

I see two opinions of this floating around.

Me PERSONALLY I believe the sheep and goats judgment occurs at the second coming, not after the millenium.

I base this opinion on Matthew 25:31 which says that when Jesus comes in glory with angels. Therefore I believe it cannot be the great white throne, because where would Jesus be "coming from" with the angels if He is already on the earth during the millennium?

You see my point?

If you disagree with me, prove your point from Scripture! And lets discuss it!

I see two opinions of this floating around.

Me PERSONALLY I believe the sheep and goats judgment occurs at the second coming, not after the millenium.

I base this opinion on Matthew 25:31 which says that when Jesus comes in glory with angels. Therefore I believe it cannot be the great white throne, because where would Jesus be "coming from" with the angels if He is already on the earth during the millennium?

You see my point?

If you disagree with me, prove your point from Scripture! And lets discuss it!

Jesus seems to be distinguishing those who either helped those in need,(the sheep) and those that didn't help those in need (the goats), WITH HIS BRETHREN.

Why make the distinction between the sheep here and His Brethren, unless He is talking about His Physical, Blood Brethren, the believing Jews that survive the Great Tribulation, that were helped by the believing Gentiles during the Great Tribulation.

Well this thread was a bummer. Everyone agrees with me. I thought this was the internet

Where are all the opposing view representatives? Did we completely demolish their whole argument already and they got nothing to prove their point that sheep and goats judgment is the great white throne judgment?

Me PERSONALLY I believe the sheep and goats judgment occurs at the second coming, not after the millenium.

I see two opinions of this floating around.

Me PERSONALLY I believe the sheep and goats judgment occurs at the second coming, not after the millenium.

I base this opinion on Matthew 25:31 which says that when Jesus comes in glory with angels. Therefore I believe it cannot be the great white throne, because where would Jesus be "coming from" with the angels if He is already on the earth during the millennium?

You see my point?

If you disagree with me, prove your point from Scripture! And lets discuss it!

I would suggest not AT the second coming, but just before the beginning of the Millennium. This is the judgment of the nations. Armageddon is at the second coming.

Jesus returned in the lifetime of the high priest so it's possible that the sheep and goat judgement happened at that coming.

Full preterism? Wow.

WHEN did Jesus return? Why are we still here? No new heaven, no new earth. Sin still going rampant, wicked getting worse and worse.

I'm not full preterism, I believe Christ will return in the future. All I am saying is that Jesus went to hell and returned 3 days later so every time the bible Jesus mentions Jesus returning its not always talking about his final return at the end.

This is why there's so much confusing and debate about his return, because every mention of his return is not about the end. People can accept this truth or not but no one can argue the fact that Jesus didn't leave, go to hell and return to earth.

Okay, so people saw Jesus "coming in the clouds" when returning from hell to earth?

How does that work? Hell doesnt seem too "cloudy" to me? Also, Jesus only revealed Himself after the resurrection to His followers, no?

You guys....... I cant take this seriously im sorry. Preterism is just something else let me tell you. CLOUD can mean many things, but in CONTEXT we see what it means.

As for what Locutus just made up, absolutely ridicilous and FALSE:

The saints DID NOT inherit the kingdom, they were PERSECUTED and lived miserable lives on this earth after 70AD...... Most early church fathers were martyred. As per usual, Locutus saying something FALSE:

Goats are not cast out of Jerusalem after surrounded by pagan army, another falsehood. The goats go to HELL, eternal punishment, you know, like it says in Matthew 25:46. It doesnt say there were kicked out of Jerusalem, RIDICILOUS

@Locutus you claim to have "studied" dispensationalism and proven how bad it is, and if this is what you switched dispensationalism to, WOW. You have been DECEIVED. I dont agree with everything dispies say, however they are MUCH closer to the truth than you, that is fo sure.

We often say "eschatology doesn't matter". I would agree with that but the exception is FULL preterism, it guarantees you will run into deception, stop watching since everything has already happened, and makes you susceptible to taking the mark of the beast. (Since you falsely believe its already happened).