Out Of This World
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This guy was clearly human and it’s a shame for us because humans are stupid but no human wants to die on the cross specially after everyone told him to not do it and use his superpowers instead. So he just needed strength from the divine thankfully for also being a God. No one likes the human race guys we seriously stink. Father knows best.
I don't believe that Jesus had "superpowers". (see bold above - emphasis mine)
I believe that he set his divinity aside, which was his true identity, of course. (I'm not denying his divinity)
The miracles he participated in were done in his humanity. He expectes us to do what he was doing.
And even greater things. We are to model what he did in coming along side what the Father was doing.
John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
I believe that he set his divinity aside, which was his true identity, of course. (I'm not denying his divinity)
The miracles he participated in were done in his humanity. He expectes us to do what he was doing.
And even greater things. We are to model what he did in coming along side what the Father was doing.
John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
then i'm led to search through scripture finding how this testifies of His person and His work; who He is and what He does: how all scripture testifies of Him. which we can do, but i'm trying not to write 1,000 words and wind up off the main topic - if we really would.
what happens if i ask, how is this poetic, what does it really mean, why is it poetic?
wouldn't i then be trying to use my own imagination, to come up with a way to make this mean what it doesn't actually say, or just chalking it off as 'poetic license' and not adding any knowledge of Him at all?
what happens if i ask, how is this poetic, what does it really mean, why is it poetic?
wouldn't i then be trying to use my own imagination, to come up with a way to make this mean what it doesn't actually say, or just chalking it off as 'poetic license' and not adding any knowledge of Him at all?
that's fine, but if they're idioms we're not 'solved' - we're then at what do they mean, and why does He use an idiom, a particular idiom, instead of speaking plainly?
He started teaching in parables after a point, but that. to the masses, and to the pharisees and sadducees. to His disciples, He still spoke plainly - *sometimes* lol. it remains very complex
He started teaching in parables after a point, but that. to the masses, and to the pharisees and sadducees. to His disciples, He still spoke plainly - *sometimes* lol. it remains very complex
that's fine, but if they're idioms we're not 'solved' - we're then at what do they mean, and why does He use an idiom, a particular idiom, instead of speaking plainly?
He started teaching in parables after a point, but that. to the masses, and to the pharisees and sadducees. to His disciples, He still spoke plainly - *sometimes* lol. it remains very complex
He started teaching in parables after a point, but that. to the masses, and to the pharisees and sadducees. to His disciples, He still spoke plainly - *sometimes* lol. it remains very complex
Is this unclear due to the use of an idiom? (white unto harvest)
John 4:35 KJV
Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
I think we talk differently to various individuals in our life.
We need to consider the fact that we are eavesdropping, as it were, on a conversation between Father and Son.
I would imagine that Jesus is talking to Father the way they always talk. I don't think there is any indication that he changed the way he was praying to accommodate the understanding of the audience. Some of the things Jesus said were unapologetically mysterious. Do you remember this one. Definitely NOT to be taken literally. In fact the literal understanding has led to doctrinal error. INHO
John 6:53
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
John 6:54
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
John 6:56
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.
We need to consider the fact that we are eavesdropping, as it were, on a conversation between Father and Son.
I would imagine that Jesus is talking to Father the way they always talk. I don't think there is any indication that he changed the way he was praying to accommodate the understanding of the audience. Some of the things Jesus said were unapologetically mysterious. Do you remember this one. Definitely NOT to be taken literally. In fact the literal understanding has led to doctrinal error. INHO
John 6:53
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
John 6:54
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
John 6:56
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.