Not By Works

I hate you.

Are you obeying God while you sin every day?

Obedience after salvation does not affect a Christian's eternal destiny. To believe that would make God a liar.

I live in the downriver Detroit area.

Good news is, we didn't lose power (thank-you, LORD!) and, so far, we didn't get the snow they predicted.

If everyones name is written, why would you have to believe in double predestination? A persons name is blotted out when they die in unbelief.

Then names getting blotted out would never make sense, because then once a name was written in, that person would have the seal of the spirit and eternal life, his name would never be blotted out.

It does not say when those names were written, thats taking scripture out of what is actually said.

You never gave context

Are they lost sheep or lost goats, do not expect an answer when you give an open ended question like that.

Again, taking to far,

You still have to use the words never, otherwise you lost context and meaning of the passage,

He was considered a man after Gods heart as a teenager when he was chosen

Did God change his mind?

Hey bud, i think his context was desire...

I certainly do not desire to sin Everyday,

Darn tootin' I believe it.

Well, since that bunch loves to tie obedience to salvation, I assumed such. But if that was not what he meant, I apologize.

if you are led by the Spirit how is it you think you follow the Spirit to somewhere the Spirit doesn't go before you?

one of my cats - she's 24yrs old, at least ((?)) - had a stroke overnight & can't use one of her hind paws

now i have to go to work

thank you for remembering the little one, Nebula, in your prayers, if you would

It's about 5:30 am here, and the wind seems to be finally dying down. Still gusty though. It's creepy hearing one's house creak and groan for hours on end!

I like this question, Budman.
You believe in absolute grace without taking someones true commitment into account.

Scripture applies grace through time. David fell into lust with Bathsheba, committed adultery and murdered
the husband with the sword of the Hittites. Yet when confronted, he repented.

His heart stayed true to God and committed, though his flesh lead him astray.
Grace decides between the two, which is why we have repentance and confession, and the battle with sowing
to the Spirit or to the flesh. What we truly are is only revealed before the throne. As Paul says,

wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
1 cor 4:5

A believer who uses grace as an excuse to stay in sin, Paul describes like this

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Rom 6:11-12

Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Rom 6:16

So a believer who offers themselves as a slave to sin, it will lead to their spiritual death.
It will take time, and eat them up, but their faith will crumble to dust.

But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
Rom 6:22

It sounds like many believers have sown to sin, and are reaping death while claiming this is eternal life
and they can look forward to blessings from God. This is simply a denial of scripture and Pauls laying out
of the way of promise, sow to the Spirit, reap eternal life.

I think some of the "new" members are actually "old" members resurrected!

Grace is unmerited favor - no manner how one tries to spin it. It simply means you can't earn it, especially through one's behavior. To do so would change what it is entirely. The same applies to salvation as a gift. If one gives a gift and then adds even a single condition to it, it destroys the notion it was a gift at all.

If you sin every single day (and you do) that is the epitome of staying in sin. You choose to do it. Sins are not accidental. You choose to rebel, you choose to not obey - period.

Now answer my question: If a Christian tells a lie, has a heart attack and immediately dies, is that Christian lost?

Are there people of the circumcision party here on this thread?
Have any said we must follow the rules of the temple, and the ceremonies of Israel?
Is any trying to justify themselves before God through their obedience to the Mosaic law?

If there are none, who are you referring to?

I realise some know scripture so poorly, taking Pauls rebuke and applying it to others may seem wise,
but it shows how empty ones heart is, if this is the only answer you can give to overcoming sin through
the power of the Holy Spirit within the believer.

For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Rom 6:14

It sounds like some are declaring sin can be your master because you are under grace.
Not what scripture is declaring at all, but rather the opposite.