Faith

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
K

KnowMe

Guest
#2
Yup, I like to call it Finding All In The Heart
 

Deuteronomy

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2018
3,319
3,677
113
68
#4
Faith is believing the unseen as seen, with patience
Hi Patrick, the Bible seems to say as much (y) For instance,

Hebrews 11
1 Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Romans 4
20 With respect to the promise of God, he [Abraham] did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God,
21 and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform.
~Deut
 

FollowHisSteps

Well-known member
Feb 15, 2019
3,674
1,201
113
#6
Faith is believing the unseen as seen, with patience
There are many faiths and many implications of the word faith.
I can have faith in you that you will do something you have said you would do.
I can have faith in a bridge that it will carry my weight as I cross it.
I can have faith in Christ and the cross, that my sins are forgiven and He will lead me on the road
to life everlasting.

I can have faith that you know english.

But faith without demonstration, can just be a thought or an idea with no impact or change.
And because of faith if massive things will result, the wrong thing may be done because of
the wrong faith. What then is true faith and faith that is just a whim?
 
K

KnowMe

Guest
#8
There are many faiths and many implications of the word faith.
I can have faith in you that you will do something you have said you would do.
I can have faith in a bridge that it will carry my weight as I cross it.
I can have faith in Christ and the cross, that my sins are forgiven and He will lead me on the road
to life everlasting.

I can have faith that you know english.

But faith without demonstration, can just be a thought or an idea with no impact or change.
And because of faith if massive things will result, the wrong thing may be done because of
the wrong faith. What then is true faith and faith that is just a whim?
I have faith the universe will be no more, how can I demonstrate that?
 

FollowHisSteps

Well-known member
Feb 15, 2019
3,674
1,201
113
#9
I have faith the universe will be no more, how can I demonstrate that?
There is faith that is subjective, its consequences rely on you alone.
There is faith that relies on how another will respond.

So I can trust my friend to catch me if I jump. My faith is proven by me jumping,
and my faith is right if I am caught.

So my faith has two points of failure. It could be false, a delusion, an invented idea
about something that is not true. My response to my faith can be real and a true
statement of my belief. The response of the other party shows whether my faith was
correct in predicting how they would respond.

Many faith groups ignore the belief in how the other party will respond and project
hopeful outcomes when other things are much more likely.

This is why faith in Christ is more complicated and Jesus Himself pointed out many
will have false faith and conclude completely the wrong things so you need to be
careful.
 
K

KnowMe

Guest
#10
There is faith that is subjective, its consequences rely on you alone.
There is faith that relies on how another will respond.

So I can trust my friend to catch me if I jump. My faith is proven by me jumping,
and my faith is right if I am caught.

So my faith has two points of failure. It could be false, a delusion, an invented idea
about something that is not true. My response to my faith can be real and a true
statement of my belief. The response of the other party shows whether my faith was
correct in predicting how they would respond.

Many faith groups ignore the belief in how the other party will respond and project
hopeful outcomes when other things are much more likely.

This is why faith in Christ is more complicated and Jesus Himself pointed out many
will have false faith and conclude completely the wrong things so you need to be
careful.
in the OP, he mentions faith with patience what are examples of that faith.

about being caught if one jumps, that reminded me of peter stepping onto the water, his faith was for a moment then he fell in.
 
Feb 28, 2016
11,311
2,972
113
#11
There are many faiths and many implications of the word faith.
I can have faith in you that you will do something you have said you would do.
I can have faith in a bridge that it will carry my weight as I cross it.
I can have faith in Christ and the cross, that my sins are forgiven and He will lead me on the road
to life everlasting.

I can have faith that you know english.

But faith without demonstration, can just be a thought or an idea with no impact or change.
And because of faith if massive things will result, the wrong thing may be done because of
the wrong faith. What then is true faith and faith that is just a whim?
============================================
true Faith has to reflect Christ's Spirit -
so through Faith, Abraham offered-up his only begotten son' -
HEB. 11.
 

Deuteronomy

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2018
3,319
3,677
113
68
#15
Hi MTOC, there is only One God/One Savior/One Creator of all and over all (no matter what some individuals may believe to the contrary).

Isaiah 43
10 "You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and believe Me
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
And there will be none after Me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD,
And there is no Savior besides Me."

Isaiah 45
5 “I am the LORD, and there is no other;

Besides Me there is no God."

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him ~nothing~ came into being that has come into being.
.
~Deut
 
Sep 3, 2016
6,344
530
113
#18
Hi MTOC, there is only One God/One Savior/One Creator of all and over all (no matter what some individuals may believe to the contrary).

Isaiah 43
10 "You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and believe Me
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
And there will be none after Me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD,
And there is no Savior besides Me."
Isaiah 45
5 “I am the LORD, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God."
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him ~nothing~ came into being that has come into being.
.
~Deut
We have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Which God are we to put our Faith in?