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ForestGreenCook

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U cant be a practicing gay or witch or murderer or idolator etc. And go to heaven. Thats rediciolous stop justifying what God hates. Its clearly written that we must walk in the light.
Read Psalms 53:2-3, we do not walk in the light until God quickens us to a new life, Eph 2.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Will strait people go to heaven having sex with whom ever other than their husband/wife (married or not married)?



After my divorce 15 years ago, if you told me I was desirable I went to bed with you. If I would have died during that time I would have gone to heaven. I have not had sex since 2011 I am still going to heaven....

Point is gay or strait the Holy Spirit does NOT leave you in your sin!!!!
Amen, sister, Christ died for every sin, not just part of them. I do mot understand why people cut Jesus short in his ability as our Savior.
 

Demi777

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be not deceived. its not talking about the church. the church is filled with wickedness of every sort, clearly that verse isnt about the church?

thank you sister for contending for righteousness and the faith once delivered to the saints. it brings joy to my heart to see some people awake and walk in the Spirit.

walk in the light amen.
Im very allergic against such false hypergrace doctrine.
God is holy and any of his true children would stand up in righteousness for him and to him
 

Melach

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Christ died for ALL of the sins of those that he died for, including being gay, but he did not die for all mankind, only those that God gave him. You disgrace your Savior by limiting his ability and purpose for his death.
i think not
you are making Christ a minister of sin. never heard of this kind of doctrine?
 

Demi777

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Read Psalms 53:2-3, we do not walk in the light until God quickens us to a new life, Eph 2.
Yea so if we walk not in the light we walk in darkness and go to hell. God gives everyone a chance.

1 John 1:5-10 English Standard Version (ESV)
Walking in the Light
5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 

NayborBear

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Being actively participating in a gay lifestyle will not keep them from going to heaven, but it will keep them from being members of the church that Christ set up. 1 Cor 6:9 has reference to Christ's church (Kingdom of God), not eternal heaven.
You've went and gone completely balmy FGC!
Totally bonkers!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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He who says he is without sin is a LIAR and IS DECIEVES HIMSELF and their IS NO TRUTH IN HIM.

All people judging homo sin. Do you judge the hetero sin, How about the lier. The thief , the proud, the boaster, the arrogant, the one who covets what others have, the one who knows he needs to do something, but choses to not do it. The one who decides on this occasion or that occasion he will serve self. And not the ones in need.

James said if we obey every aspect of the law. Yet fail in one point, we are guilty of the whole law. And as such, are under the curse of that same law, Which means by defenition, We are headed to hell.

What is it about people who want to JUDGE certain sins, Yet refuse to see or acknowledge their own personal sins make them JUST AS GUILTY?

This is sad, The jews tried this stuff, and look what it did to them, It made them so PROUD they missed their messiah, because he told them the same things, They are JUST AS GUILTY as the sinners they judged, So in pride they denied their messiah. Because in their pride, They could not believe that they, as Gods people, who obey Gods commands could be just as guilty of a homosexual, or a murderer, or a tax collector or another “sinner”

Let he who has no sin cast the first stone. In jesus own words. NOT A SOUL IN THIS ROOM HAS The RIGHT TO CAST A STONE

So why are you all here casting stones?

Lets pray for their SALVATION (if they are not saved) and their HEALING, if they are saved,
 

Ahwatukee

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so what will happen to all the gay christians?in thes last days they sing on choirs and minister and all that good thing
There is no such thing as a gay Christian. The true believer in Christ recognizes same-sex as sin and has a repentant heart and will endeavor to overcome it. Those who claim to be in Christ but have justified their same-sex life style are only deceiving themselves, for they have justified their sin instead of repenting. Singing in choirs, ministering, etc., etc., does not save anyone. Only faith in the shed blood of Christ can save a person.
 

Ahwatukee

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if a man continue in sin then grace becomes abound to him.to sin is one thing but to continue in it is somthing els
"What then shall we say? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin live in it any longer?"

For those who use the grace of God to continue in sin, their condemnation is deserved.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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"What then shall we say? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin live in it any longer?"

For those who use the grace of God to continue in sin, their condemnation is deserved.
so I take it your sinless??
 

Didymous

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the problem I see with this line of thinking is that-since people aren't require to live differently while here, then they'll be living the same in Heaven. Imagine a place full of liars, murderers, thieves, fornicators, etc...,. That sounds wonderful, doesn't it?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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the problem I see with this line of thinking is that-since people aren't require to live differently while here, then they'll be living the same in Heaven. Imagine a place full of liars, murderers, thieves, fornicators, etc...,. That sounds wonderful, doesn't it?
Of course, when we get to heaven, We will not be those things anymore..

While we are here, We will still be hating our brothers, and not know it. Thinking go or people in the opposite sex in a way which is sin, and deny it. Bearing false witness, or lying to ourselves and deny it or not even realise we are doing it.

Thats why we need to focus on GOD and listen to his chastening, and stop trying to think we are so holy and righteous and do not do the things we do every single day. And not realise or even know it. (Or know it, but do not want to tell anyone about it)
 

TLC209

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Sorry, that is not the key. There is no key. you cannot do anything of your own accord that will get you to heaven. You get to heaven only by the sovereign grace of God, without the help of mankind.

The truth of the matter is that Christ paid for all of the sins of those that he died for and all of them will live in heaven with him. Repenting of a sin can get you rewards here in this life, but repenting is not the cause of your eternal salvation.
Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 

NayborBear

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Of course, when we get to heaven, We will not be those things anymore..

While we are here, We will still be hating our brothers, and not know it. Thinking go or people in the opposite sex in a way which is sin, and deny it. Bearing false witness, or lying to ourselves and deny it or not even realise we are doing it.

Thats why we need to focus on GOD and listen to his chastening, and stop trying to think we are so holy and righteous and do not do the things we do every single day. And not realise or even know it. (Or know it, but do not want to tell anyone about it)
Of course! :p
Just one little finger inch wormin' around in heaven?
But, Hey! Ya made it! Right? :p
 
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will gay people get to heaven living a gay life style?
A gay person can be saved, and all their sin forgiven, but they have to give up the gay lifestyle, the same as they have to give up fornicating, and stealing, and slandering people, and loving money for their wants, and any thing else that is a sin.

A gay person will not get to heaven any more than anybody that lives in sin whatever the sin.

The Bible says if you offend in the least of the law you offend in all, and a little leaven leavens the whole lump.

And all sin is unrighteousness.

The Bible says if we sin wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, then there is no more sacrifice for sins, which all sin can be forgiven, so this is speaking of people that live in sin, hold unto sin, and think they are alright with God.

But the Bible says that some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

So a person that would life the gay lifestyle, and confessed Christ, but did not give up the gay lifestyle, went to a Church that did not preach the truth about repentance anyway, and accepted homosexuality as if nothing is wrong.

Many people were not even saved, but think they are saved, which my sister has a friend, a woman who is a lesbian, and drinks alcohol, and does cocaine, so she must go to such a Church, who is a deacon at the Church.

The Bible says that all sin is done without the body except fornication, that is a sin against the body, and much more if it is homosexuality.

But the thing with homosexuality is it appears worse than a common sin, for God said it is an abomination to engage in the act, the same as having sex with animals is an abomination.

For God is the one that created all things, so He is the one that decides the rules of the physical realm, and He did not create a man and a man, and a woman and a woman, to be together, and did not create people to have sex with animals.

That is not how the natural realm works according to God for He lays down the rules of it, and how it should operate.

God does not see homosexuality as love, and anything that is not love is sin, although the people in a gay relationship will think it is love, and God only allows people to be married to the opposite sex for it to be legitimate in love.

And also when a man and a woman marry they become one flesh, and that is why there is no sin among them.

But since God did not ordain for a homosexual relationship to happen then when they marry they do not become one flesh, so there is sin among them.

The Bible even says that nature teaches that it is a shame for a man to have long hair, testifying that a man should not behave like a woman.

But again if anybody holds unto sin no matter what the sin it cannot be forgiven, so the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away, for God will not take away the sin if we hold on to it.

And for people that say they cannot abstain from sin, they have no say so in this matter, for they are holding unto sin for they say they cannot abstain from sin, so how can they say anything against the homosexual who cannot abstain from that sin, or at least they think they cannot.

The truth is there is no struggling with sin, only not submitting to the Spirit.

The gay person cannot live the gay lifestyle and be a part of heaven.

The new age movement is the future for this sinful world, and will pave the way to the world rebelling against God when the nations come together as one, and try to establish peace on earth.

When they do come together they will forbid to marry for population reduction, and command to be a vegetarian, amd that is because the powers to be are of the occult who are running the show.

So they want to get the ball rolling with getting people to believe they are born gay, it is alright to be gay and make it to heaven, transgender, and anything else to get people to look upon it, and to drive a wedge between men and women with woman's liberation, feminism, and showing men in the media as dogs, and women as controlling and caring about money.
 

TLC209

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so I take it your sinless??
No one is sinless. We claim Jesus Christ as our intersessor for sin. But we walk in righteousness through Jesus Christ our savior and redeemer. If we kill our flesh as Christ died on the cross, we must therefore live in the Spirit. Which is the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God. In God there is no sin. Therefore if we live in Spirit we will not sin, but if we do sin we have the Lord to call out to and confess our sin and He is merciful to forgive us.

A true Christian will not promote endorce or justify any sin. In this example homosexuality. Which is not only a sin but an abomination to God.
 

Ahwatukee

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so I take it your sinless??
That's not what my post said. What it does say is "For those who use the grace of God to continue in sin, their condemnation is deserved."

Surely eternally-gratefull, you know that those who are truly in Christ are wrestling to overcome the sinful nature. There is a big difference between those who have a repentant heart and who stumble during the process vs. those who have justified their sins so that they can continue in them, such as those who are living same-sex life styles. If a person was gay when they came to Christ and they are wrestling to overcome it, then they have a repentant heart and the right spirit. However, if they are attempting to justify it so that they can continue in it, that is the opposite of repentance and the wrong spirit.

I am a sinner who is wrestling to overcome. And when I stumble, I go to the Father and ask for forgiveness and His help to overcome it. For scripture states that if anyone says he has no sin, he is a liar and the truth is not in him. When we sin, if we confess our sins, He is faith and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness.

Many who are gay and are justifying the sin of same-sex and not wrestling with it, but instead attempting to make it ok, as though it was as natural as marriage between and man and a woman.
 

ForestGreenCook

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You've went and gone completely balmy FGC!
Totally bonkers!
I have read where Jesus doctrine was accused of the same thing many times. His doctrine is a mystery to most of his born again children.