The Bible, the Promised Land, and the Quran

Who does the land belong to, according to the Bible? As Galatians 3:29 says “And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise,” it belongs not only to the Hebrews, but also to the Christians.

That is incorrect. That land belongs to the TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL after Israel is redeemed and restored as the kingdom of Israel under Christ. See Ezekiel 48.

If you're going to rely solely on the Old Testament, then you may as well ignore the New Testament.

Go back and read Galatians 3:29. It designates Christians as being Abraham's offspring.

Go back and read Galatians 3:29. It designates Christians as being Abraham's offspring. To me, whatever Abraham was entitled to, his offspring is entitled to as well. In that regard, why would Christians have less of a right to that land than those that God originally promised the land to?

As far as i know, I am biologically descended from Abraham. If you are a Christian and are not so descended, am I more worthy of the Promised Land than you are?

If you're going to rely solely on the Old Testament, then you may as well ignore the New Testament.

To the extent the Quran regards Jesus as being among the ranks of the righteous, it could at least be inferred that the Quran may acknowledge the land as belonging to Jesus’ followers as well.

The Koran has a different Jesus, period. To them God does not have a Son, to us Jesus is the only begotten Son of the Father.

The Koran as a oral tradition of man is false prophecy .If we try the spirits to see if they are of men or of God .They prove to be false witnesses . We have the perfect word of God. The idea adding to it eastern philosophy is not a biblical teaching. Any man called a prophet after John violates the warning not to add or subtract from the whole. .No longer having the word of God prophecy in part as before the book of Revelation. That trial can be used in all who say; thus says the Lord, even knowing His is silent and has sealed up his will till the end of time with seven seals . This includes the Mormons and their book of the law Mormonism, or Jehovah Witnesses with their addition written in a book of the law of men . No man can serve two written masters in that way .

Correct. And only because all believers are saved exactly as Abraham was saved. He is "the father of us all".

But that does not nullify God's promises to the twelve tribes of Israel -- also called "the seed" of Abraham. After the Second Coming of Christ those twelve tribes will be allotted their respective portions in the land of Israel, and will be settled there. But there will be no Gentile Christians within Israel. See Ezekiel 48, which is yet to be fulfilled. The Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body) will live in the New Jerusalem.

I agree, but I would have addressed Newton, since he brought up the Koran and Jesus.

Didn’t mean for the title to be one of the answers given Karnak the Magician for him to guess the related question, but if you will, the question could be, ‘Name 3 things that refer to the land of the Hebrews.’

So where is this land, that God gave to Abraham in Genesis and promised Moses in Exodus? Numbers 34:1-12 says the following:

“The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, ‘Command the people of Israel, and say to them, When you enter the land of Canaan b(this is the land that shall fall to you for an inheritance, the land of Canaan as defined by its borders), your south side shall be from the wilderness of Zin alongside Edom, and your southern border shall run from the end of the Salt Sea on the east. And your border shall turn south of the ascent of Akrabbim, and cross to Zin, and its limit shall be south of Kadesh-barnea. Then it shall go on to Hazar-addar, and pass along to Azmon. And the border shall turn from Azmon to the Brook of Egypt, and its limit shall be at the sea. “For the western border, you shall have the Great Sea and its coast. This shall be your western border.

"‘This shall be your northern border: from the Great Sea you shall draw a line to Mount Hor. From Mount Hor you shall draw a line to Lebo-hamath, and the limit of the border shall be at Zedad. Then the border shall extend to Ziphron, and its limit shall be at Hazar-enan. This shall be your northern border.

"‘You shall draw a line for your eastern border from Hazar-enan to Shepham. And the border shall go down from Shepham to Riblah on the east side of Ain. And the border shall go down and reach to the shoulder of the Sea of Chinnereth on the east. And the border shall go down to the Jordan, and its limit shall be at the Salt Sea. This shall be your land as defined by its borders all around.'”

Anyone having varying degrees of familiarity with geography would have at least a general idea of where this land would be. The Salt Sea would be the Dead Sea, the Brook of Egypt would be the Nile River, and the Great Sea would be the Mediterranean.

God in Genesis 15:18 gives some more detail when He says to Abraham, ““To your offspring I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates.”

A map of this general area is shown at

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Greater_Israel_map.jpg

As you can see, it includes the land now occupied by others in addition to those in Israel. Even the Quran acknowledges the land given to the Hebrews when it says in Surah: 17 - سورة الإسراء - Al-Isra (The night journey) [104], “And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, ‘Dwell securely in the land (of promise).’”

Who does the land belong to, according to the Bible? As Galatians 3:29 says “And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise,” it belongs not only to the Hebrews, but also to the Christians. To the extent the Quran regards Jesus as being among the ranks of the righteous, it could at least be inferred that the Quran may acknowledge the land as belonging to Jesus’ followers as well.

Where does that leave everyone else under these premises? It would leave them subject to the rule of the modern-day Hebrews and Jesus’ followers if they live on that land. They could be given certain authority in government, as long as their authority is in the minority to prevent the Promised Land from losing its identity in terms of its Biblical heirs.

Will we ever get to that point? That remains to be seen.

Go back and read Galatians 3:29. It designates Christians as being Abraham's offspring. To me, whatever Abraham was entitled to, his offspring is entitled to as well. In that regard, why would Christians have less of a right to that land than those that God originally promised the land to?

As far as i know, I am biologically descended from Abraham. If you are a Christian and are not so descended, am I more worthy of the Promised Land than you are?

If you're going to rely solely on the Old Testament, then you may as well ignore the New Testament.

The new name Abraham was set aside for another purpose other that seeds of the flesh....many .The word Abraham means father of a multitude of nations not just one as seeds. (many)

Nehemiah 6 brings up on this thread that Ezekiel 48 divides the land among the 12 tribes of Israel.

You, just like the Korean, got it wrong. The promised land is nothing more than a correct heart (Mind), the mind that knows God, the mind that God occupies - this is the mind that the saints were promised to occupy, it has nothing to do with soil or geography.

. Inasmuch as the 12 tribes are offspring of Abraham, and Galatians 3:29 says that if we’re Christ’s we are Abraham’s offspring too, adding “heirs according to a promise,” the land is as much the land of those who are Christ’s as the 12 tribes.