What Pentecostal denomination does NOT believe in the initial evidence doctrine?

So I am in line with most pentecostal teachings. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation(although there could be some fluidity to that) and I believe the gifts are for today. But I disagree with the classical pentecostal doctrine that claims speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of Baptism of the Holy Spirit. That one must speak in tongues as proof that they have been baptized. I also tend to not like some of the over emphasis on gifts that some pentecostals have. I understand it depends greatly on the church and pastor, but some pentecostals have put such attention on the gifts that it becomes an obsession to get as much as they can. I believe the spirit will give whatever gift he choses as he wills(1 Corinthians 12: 7-12). Is there any denomination out there that fits this? I have looked at the major pentecostal denominations such as Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Church of God, and they all claim the initial evidence as one of their core doctrines. Does anyone know of a pentecostal denomination that does not require this? And has a more moderate approach to the gifts?

I see that the great number of those who speak in tongues are avoiding this question.

I see that the great number of those who speak in tongues are avoiding this question.

So I am in line with most pentecostal teachings. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation(although there could be some fluidity to that) and I believe the gifts are for today. But I disagree with the classical pentecostal doctrine that claims speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of Baptism of the Holy Spirit. That one must speak in tongues as proof that they have been baptized. I also tend to not like some of the over emphasis on gifts that some pentecostals have. I understand it depends greatly on the church and pastor, but some pentecostals have put such attention on the gifts that it becomes an obsession to get as much as they can. I believe the spirit will give whatever gift he choses as he wills(1 Corinthians 12: 7-12). Is there any denomination out there that fits this? I have looked at the major pentecostal denominations such as Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Church of God, and they all claim the initial evidence as one of their core doctrines. Does anyone know of a pentecostal denomination that does not require this? And has a more moderate approach to the gifts?

So I am in line with most pentecostal teachings. I believe the baptism of the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation(although there could be some fluidity to that) and I believe the gifts are for today. But I disagree with the classical pentecostal doctrine that claims speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of Baptism of the Holy Spirit. That one must speak in tongues as proof that they have been baptized. I also tend to not like some of the over emphasis on gifts that some pentecostals have. I understand it depends greatly on the church and pastor, but some pentecostals have put such attention on the gifts that it becomes an obsession to get as much as they can. I believe the spirit will give whatever gift he choses as he wills(1 Corinthians 12: 7-12). Is there any denomination out there that fits this? I have looked at the major pentecostal denominations such as Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Church of God, and they all claim the initial evidence as one of their core doctrines. Does anyone know of a Pentecostal denomination that does not require this? And has a more moderate approach to the gifts?

1 Corinthians 12
12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to EVERY man to profit withal.
12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and ALL the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.
12:13 For by one Spirit are we ALL baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been ALL made to drink into one Spirit.
12:14 For the body is not one member, but MANY.

The above is what to look for. Let no man tell you that there is anything complicated or difficult about the above passage. It states that the Holy Spirit is for ALL. It says we are ALL baptized when we become a part of the body (v.13) We know that we become part of the body and family the hour we first believe. We do NOT all receive the same Spiritual gifts. Tongues is only one among many. Don't let any man give you his own private, personal interpretation of the above. It is lucid and crystal clear.

I see that the great number of those who speak in tongues are avoiding this question.

I see that the great number of those who speak in tongues are avoiding this question.

what was the question? I did not see it please tell I will try to answer it.

Read the title of the thread.

I see the moderator that takes sides is here so I will leave before I am scolded again.

I have looked at the major pentecostal denominations such as Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Church of God, and they all claim the initial evidence as one of their core doctrines. Does anyone know of a pentecostal denomination that does not require this?

That one must speak in tongues as proof that they have been baptized. I also tend to not like some of the over emphasis on gifts that some pentecostals have.

Those who look to signs before they can confirm themselves having the Holy Spirit would seem to have two sign that they call gifts. like killing two birds with one stone.

The baptism has to with a old testament foundation just as tongues . Neither confirm the things not seen. His Spirit accomplished that work of the Spirit of Christ

One when a person has a desire to be a member of the priesthood before they begin their ministry they get wet. . Just as the Son of man Jesus did in regard to John 3:25 the subject matter of the dispute .Tongues is a sign that confirms unbelief, no faith in God.

No such thing a "sign gifts" spiritual unseen, yes . We walk by faith...….the unseen eternal.