Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14

You had to wait a while before you could get your "aha moment" huh? lol

Because my dear Rosemary....one who is led by Holy Spirit follows Him. Not the will of man. Ask Jesus why He didn't go to all.

No. I think I got it earlier when you intimated that it would be good to see my head bashed open. Only joking, right?

Do they go to any ?

Joh 21:24　 This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and has written them down. We know that his testimony is true.


Joh 21:25　 Of course, Jesus also did many other things, and I suppose that if every one of them were written down the world couldn't contain the books that would be written.

Now tell me again EG, that the 66 books contain all that Jesus ever did and said. Or do you love your doctrine more than truth?

Just for the record. My response was to what was said about no one saying we are baptized by water for salvation in this thread.

She has a habit of claiming I misrepresent people. When in fact is is her doing the misrepresenting.

Sadly, Because she had to respond back, and try to attack my character. I was forced to PROVE her a liar. By going back to prove that people IN THIS THREAD have done the very thing she insists NO ONE IN ThiS THREAD has done.

Anyway here goes


As you can see, This poster believes our washing, our remmision of sin, Our spiritual circumcision or spiritual cleansing, which saves us (col 2) is accomplish by water baptism. This post is on page 7 of this thread.



Here is another person, who thinks we recieve remissions via water baptism, WHich essentially says, Our sins are washed away and we are saved at water baptism.

The third one is found on page 21 of this thread. (And these are not the only three that these and others have insisted our remission of sin is not accomplished UNTIL we are water baptised!)



And here is number 3 (actually the only one I remembered. This user is always preaching water baptismal regeneration (remission of sin)

And news flash. If one teaches our sins are remitted at water baptism, they are in FACT teaching that we can not be saved APART from water baptism. Thus replacing baptism of the spirit (the baptism of God) with baptism in water by some man,

I would ask for an apology from said user, But I would be asking to much, She will somehow still try to wiggle out of it and say they are not saying what they CLEARLY are saying.

Which biblical example?

Do they go to any ?

You do like to read into what others say what is not said.
Salvation is a personal thing between each individual and God.
I have no part in yours and you have no part in mine.
For any of us to believe that a person is not saved because they do not do as I do or believe as I do is judging.
If you want to call that nonsense, well, enjoy.

you began to proclaim it as truth and judge those who disagree as not having salvation, as many do, than My anger will be seen.

Once again....

Do they go to any ?

No, I am reading your post and using science. (Something you seem to be missing)

I worked in the medical field. And did quite a few years in orthopedics. I understand what happens to a body that falls to the ground,

Once again, Did God or any of the apostles us this method to heal people, Or did they just pray for them, and sometimes lay hands on them?

This user is indifferent to others. Not seeing others such as brothers or sisters in Christ. This user must not be a true believer of scripture if he cannot realize this inevidible underlying truth in scripture.

Brother this isnt how you should treat others. Were not users. I took offense to that. But this is your typical approach. And youre no different to most people on this site. All disrespect across the board regardless of your ideolegy.

You keep relying on "saved" doctrine. That manmade doctrine is false and is not found in scripture. Jesus never taught a "saved" doctrine. He said leave everything and follow me. So were they saved the minute they left everything? Well if you get your eyes off of being saved and drop that corrupt doctrine you might learn a thing or two.

You keep insisting whether salvation takes place when you get baptized or after you get baptized, well guess what.. salvation happends when you die. And not all will be saved if you do not continue in Christ as some have drawn back to the things of the world.

Saved doctrine is gargabe. And you can dislike my comment it is expected because what Christ taught was destested and so shall we be destested for preaching the TRUTH. Our eyes are on Christ not on "being saved". Ive told you that since day one. You merely look at everything from being saved perspective and that perspective is greatly erred. And serves no one any purpose, but rather sends many to hell on a false premises.

Serving Christ is the objective and surrending our own will. If you put saved in the equation, it should be a joy to know and hope for the future. Knowing we will not taste death and are children of God heirs of the kingdom of God and New Jerusalem. Did you get that when you were baptized or when you believed is absurd. We dont have that yet, or you must believe you are already in your perfect new body and walking Gods streets of Gold?

Water baptizm is a command from God we must follow. Holy Spirit baptizm is receiving the gift of God that He promised. Being heirs with Christ having Gods Spirit that allows us to be inside the trinity. Father, Word, and Holy Spirit. These 3 are One. We are entered into the trinity through the gift of the Holy Spirit. We are then sealed and our names written in the lambs book. If we continue and remain. We do not want our names blotted out of the lambs book of God, or for God to forget He ever knew us.

For when the disciples walked with Christ and knew Him they were still as not yet converted until they received the Holy Spirit. So is the same goes with all believers. We do not automatically receive the Holy Spirit just because we believe. Even the demons, satanist, and pagans believe. That is not enough to be a child of God, much less"saved".

This problem begins is the "saved" doctrine approach. The belief that if we believe we are "saved". Scripture tells us we will be saved if we believe. This should not have been made doctrine. The scripture says alot of things, we shouldnt make it doctrine just because it is written.

Being saved is a matter of being saved from sin. Sin leads to death. Jesus has saved us from the snare of the devil. What is the point in making that doctrine? Especially when the saved doctrine implies something different and is contradictory to scripture. Your very arguements are based on a false doctrine and not on scripture. Your own personal beliefs, these are not biblical. You must believe, you must be baptized, you must receive the Holy Spirit, you must forgive, you must love your neighbor, you must love God above all else and follow His command. Which one gets you saved or which order to be saved is ridiculous. Saved doctrine belongs in the trash can. Follow Christ is the way to heaven. No other way. And that includes saved doctrine which claims you only need to believe. This contradicts scripture.

You can slice and dice it ten ways till sunday, but until you remove this huge error you cannot advance in these petty arguements.

God bless you all.

Once again....

John says we don't know all that happened. True or false?

You keep relying on "saved" doctrine. That manmade doctrine is false and is not found in scripture. Jesus never taught a "saved" doctrine. He said leave everything and follow me. So were they saved the minute they left everything? Well if you get your eyes off of being saved and drop that corrupt doctrine you might learn a thing or two.

Do you believe Peter said something that was inaccurate? If so, how can one be judged by the Word?

More importantly what does scripture say:

Heb 10:18
Heb 9:22
Rom 3:25
Acts 10:43
Acts 2:38
Luke 24:47
Luke 3:3
Luke 1:77
Mark 1:4
Matt 26:28

Why on earth are not all these people who claim to be healing others spending their time in the hospital wards , hospices etc , instead of a stage raking in money from those who are truly seeking our LORD , but being taken down the broad path , why are they not in the war countries , healing the bodies that have been blown up , losing their limbs etc , and using the power what they claim comes from God , instead of knocking people over each other , I just don`t get it...

Maybe if they went to the hospices etc , they could truly show the power of God to unbelievers eyes , now that would be Amazing...xox...