1 Cor 1:11-13 - is Christ divided?

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theanointedwinner

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11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”;still another, “I follow Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

^to rightly divide the word of Truth for proper application, what do we thinking of 1 Cor 1:11-13

Or what is Paul trying to say
 
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11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”;still another, “I follow Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

^to rightly divide the word of Truth for proper application, what do we thinking of 1 Cor 1:11-13

Or what is Paul trying to say
No division between the government of God two walking together in respect to one God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

I think he is reminding us what he said above (are one God ) unlike the pagan faithless religions of the world. . He and the father are one Spirit , one source of faith that works in the believer with the believer to both will and do the good pleasure of God as a imputed righteousness. One Lord, one faith of the father and Son working together in mutual submission and perfect harmony ( Isaiah 53) One baptism as the shower of his love, the gospel .

Ephesians 4:5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

You could say three representing the end of the matter used that way many times.
 

oldhermit

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11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”;still another, “I follow Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

^to rightly divide the word of Truth for proper application, what do we thinking of 1 Cor 1:11-13

Or what is Paul trying to say
“Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe’s people, that there are quarrels among you. Now I mean this, that each one of you (this had become a corporate attitude) is saying, 'I am of Paul,' and 'I of Apollos,' and 'I of Cephas,' and 'I of Christ.' Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?”

1. The context of this agreement is very clearly defined and does not suggest compromise in order to maintain peaceful existence. That is not at all what Paul is suggesting. Paul is calling them to unity on the basis of revealed meaning regarding baptism. The Church is not to be comprised of fractured parties, no matter what the issue. In this particular instance, it was the issue of who had baptized whom. This had become a problem because the result was polarizing. This had produced feelings of bitterness, resentment, anger, hatred, malice, mistrust, and ill-will.
2. These divisions had been the result of reassigning meaning to baptism as a revealed symbol. Paul called them to be of the same mind regarding baptism but the foundation of this “same mind” was not to be defined by any one of these fractured parties but by revelation. It is God alone who assigns meaning to revealed symbols. God has already assigned meaning to baptism and we do not have a right to change the meaning of this symbol.
3. What was the error in the meaning they had linked to baptism?
To them, baptism had become a symbol of partisan identity. What I mean by partisan is that baptism for them had come to mean an adherence to, or support of a particular person or a particular group that was not in keeping with its revealed purpose of this symbol.

a. They had represented their baptism as devotion to the individual by whom they had been baptized whether directly or indirectly. Some linked their devotion to Paul, some to Apollos, some to Peter, and some to Christ.
b. Paul demonstrates the foolishness of this by arguing that they were not baptized “into the name of” any of these men. The reassignment of meaning to baptism had created a class division within the Church. There was an element of misplaced pride and superiority among them in claiming to be baptized by Paul, or Peter, or Apollos. Even those who claimed to be baptized of Christ had apparently boasted a superiority over the others because Paul was addressing them as well. What they were missing was the fact that all of them had been baptized into Christ and the instrument of that baptism was of absolutely no importance. It was on this basis that they should have been united rather than divided into four different camps.
c. “Into the name of” defines ownership. Neither Paul, Apollos, nor Peter possessed ownership of any of those whom they had baptized nor did they demand their devotion. They had all been baptized into the name of Christ. Jesus is the one who has ownership, no matter who baptized them, and he does not share ownership – Christ is not divided. They had been baptized into the possession of the one who was crucified for them. They were to wear the name of the one to whom they belonged, not Paul's, not Apollos’, and not Peter's. Their agreement concerning the symbolism of baptism must all be rooted in its revealed meaning. When this was done, this would dissipate the divisions among them over who had been baptized by whom. That would be rendered meaningless. Division is what happens when we change the meaning of revealed symbols because when we displace revealed meaning, everyone is then free to assign his own interpretation to revealed symbols and we are NEVER allowed to do this.
 

crossnote

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God's truth cannot be divided, so why prefer one teacher of truth over another? was Paul's point.
Else where we are to divide from false teachers...

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Rom 16:17)
 

Nehemiah6

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13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
The answer to all these rhetorical questions is "NO".

But even though we have this (and other) passages which tell us that the Body of Christ must not be divided, the sad fact is that it is seriously divided at the present time.

Those who promote ecumenical unity hold to false beliefs and false Christianity, therefore a false unity which accepts the concept of all religions being equal. So the best that Christians can hope for is genuine spiritual unity within the church they are associated with.
 
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11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”;still another, “I follow Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

^to rightly divide the word of Truth for proper application, what do we thinking of 1 Cor 1:11-13

Or what is Paul trying to say
We are not to be divided by following men.......plain, simple and to the point....ALL three -->Paul, Peter and Apollos POINTED everyone to CHRIST......

I will say this...ANY MAN that points to self, lifts self, elevates self is contrary to GOD.....especially the paid fakes n frauds that we see on TV peddling themselves and some fraudulent feel good prosperity rigmarole......
 
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11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”;still another, “I follow Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

^to rightly divide the word of Truth for proper application, what do we thinking of 1 Cor 1:11-13

Or what is Paul trying to say
That goes on today, and they quarrel with one another over it.

I am of Joseph Smith, and I of the Pope, and I of Charles Russel, and I of Martin Luther, and I of John Calvin, and I of John Knox, and I of John Smyth, and I of John Wesley, and I of Ellen White, and I of Mary Baker Eddy, and I of Charles Parham, and I of Herbert Armstrong.

Also they place great importance upon people as something great when Jesus is great.

The Bible is the most misinterpreted book in the history of mankind, for it is the most believed book with people that do not go to Church that believe it is true, and other religions believe it has truth, even Islam, although some do not believe it is all true, and the occult believes it is true like the new age movement.

But many people have a belief that is not part of the Bible, and they drag it in to the Bible, and it becomes their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures, so there are many misinterpretation of certain parts of the Bible, and if of the occult it is all interpreted by the occult instead of some places being misinterpreted.
 

theanointedwinner

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God's truth cannot be divided, so why prefer one teacher of truth over another? was Paul's point.
Else where we are to divide from false teachers...

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Rom 16:17)
Would you like to take a visit to my testimony thread?
 
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I would offer it applies to the Father and Son first and foremost. The context of that portion. Baptized in their name/ authority . Their mutual work of salvation . . Not in respect to mankind seen . If it cannot be divided between God. It certainly is not in respect to any man as if God was a man as us to begin with. .

How can we divide that which is not seen?

Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.1 Corinthians 1:3

It would impossible to act independently from one another. It takes two or three to establish a loving government.
 

FollowHisSteps

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We need to be careful. On the road to knowledge and understanding there is partial knowledge
and partial understanding. On the road to maturity there is revelation and often exaguration of
one thing over another.

I suffer often the latest insight I have is the one that is so important. Until it get embedded into
the whole picture, because it is new I get so excited.

It is hard to encourage those who discover these things and then want to change everything
because this is the truth. So we have moving into society to be with the people or withdrawing
from society to preserve the purity of the flock, or having only believers churches, or one spirit
led, speaking in tongues churches, or formal controlled services, or services where open expression
and exuberance is encouraged, or quietness and feeling the presence of God.

If we can dwell with each where they are, and know Gods blessing in all, amen.