Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

Best to look at Hebrews 5:9 in context.... "saved" needs to be understood within the context of the bigger picture since one can be "saved" from many things.

The book of Hebrews actually affirms the security of the believer in Christ.

The eternal security of the believer is the Gospel

OSAS eternal security from John CAlVIN actually. It's one of his theological ideas based on the 5 points of Calvism TULIP.

Hi Roger, do you know that the grace of God actually trains us to renounce ungodliness and live an upright holy lifestyle. Also the bible says do not sin so grace may abound, how can we who have died to sin live in it anymore. Also that we shouldnt use Gods grace as a license for immorality. So God does have grace but that grace, doesn't turn a blind eye to sin, as people are claiming it too. And what scripture suggests that God views us as "clean" even if we practicing wickedness?. Where are you told your future sins are forgiven even before you have done them? Where is the scripture that has the words "FINISHED WORK" of Christ?. Where in the bible does it say we are justified by the term faith "ALONE". Not faith, but FAITH ALONE".

I read what's in the bible and DEMON faith- faith alone doesn't save according to the bible. Its Just believing a God exists.

Throughout the bible there are warnings about falling and away and departing from the faith. Some where saved and some weren't saved.

Thanks

Are you joking?. I guess it contains something referring to "WORKS" so it obviously won't be about salvation according to your OSAS belief system.

OSAS eternal security from John CAlVIN actually. It's one of his theological ideas based on the 5 points of Calvism TULIP.

Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Nothing wrong with repenting from sin and endeavoring to live for Christ but none of that is for righteousness sake. We do not become any more righteous or any less righteous but are made the righteousness of Christ by grace.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Well you answered the question You do not know if you are good enough or if you have done enough to get to heaven. That means that you have already failed and will not receive eternal life with Christ.

Jesus said only to those who came to Him that they need to believe not to work. Jesus gave no one any works to do to attain heaven. those who were working were told to believe and receive. Yes they were to cease from labors that were heavy and difficult to bear but only through Him could they reach the divine standard.

You and the pope will find out too late that there is nothing a sinner can do to save himself. That which is unclean cannot do anything that God will accept except repent and trust Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Always good to search out what the word "obey" means in context and the meaning of the word in the original language.

The eternal security of the believer is the Gospel

Amen, God does not save those trying to save themselves.

Why are you casting judgment for no apparent reason?

Amen, God does not save those trying to save themselves.

Though John Calvin definitely taught "eternal security", not all who hold to that doctrine get it from his writings.

Why are you casting judgment for no apparent reason?

Why are you casting judgment for no apparent reason?

Actually (at least in my view) the gospel is not about man. The gospel is the good news of Jesus Christ - his life, his death, and his resurrection.

The Greek word here means literally "good news" - which is translated as "gospel" in most English versions.

Hey, if you are not "trying to save yourself", then the accusation does not apply to you! Let others say what they want, salvation comes through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Salvation does not come through belief in and acceptance of a doctrinal system of belief.

Not judgement just a statement of fact according to scripture. The justified cannot be unjustified and justification cannot be earned.

Salvation is a gift it cannot be earned.

Abraham Justified by Faith
…3For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4Now the wages of the worker are not credited as a gift, but as an obligation. 5However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.…
Romans 4:4

Well they dont know they do!because they dont research the

You can't say I am trying to save myself without knowing my beliefs first.

I actually dont follow a doctrinal system.

What's your point here. How do you know I dont have faith?. You dont even know me?

Well you may disagree, but there is no "Good News" if salvation can be lost, because not one person is capable of holding onto their salvation, we would all fail.