Racism

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Lanolin

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Do you ever encounter racism?
What do you do about it? Why do people have this idea that people of a certain colour only belong to certain countries. Weird. If you are born in a land, you belong to it no matter what colour your skin is or what you look like. If you choose to make your home here, thats home is where you are right now.

What do you think? Is it just a way of saying 'you are different and you dont belong here?'
 

JaumeJ

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Racism only exists in unbelievers and within the ranks of those who say they believe yet deny the fellowship provided by our Father in Jesus Christ only.

I am what is most commonly referred to as "whit," and I do not like thes classifications, but I get over it. I also have been attacked for being what is deemed my color...…..I am not moved by these attitudes. I hate mindless hatred and I love the family in Jesus, Yeshua...no colors there for we will all be just as Jesus come His established KIngdom.
 

Lynx

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Racism is a word commonly overused in the USA, but we don't really know racism. In the middle east everybody hates everybody. We're racism amateurs compared to them.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Do you ever encounter racism?
What do you do about it? Why do people have this idea that people of a certain colour only belong to certain countries. Weird. If you are born in a land, you belong to it no matter what colour your skin is or what you look like. If you choose to make your home here, thats home is where you are right now.

What do you think? Is it just a way of saying 'you are different and you dont belong here?'
I live in south Georgia where much of the civil rights movement took place. The scar is still deep in the south with Caucasians and African Americans. From my point of view everyone has moved on but certain groups try to divide, play identity politics, tell you your the victim and make situations worse than they were.

Nowadays it's all about idealogies. If I disagree with another's idealogy then in return they feel as if I hate their identity and use the race card. Now it is rarely about skin color or area your from. But all about idealogies. The confusion comes in when the majority of one race is conservative and the majority of another race is democratic then by default these races will not agree on many different subjects. Thus giving the appearance of hate or dislike. But in reality you care for the individual but disagree with their beliefs, I believe this is the majority of Americans regardless of what our media tries to portray.
 

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Hi,Lanolin! Blessings to you. I can only speak from my own experiences in life. My dad was in the Military,you were housed with many different colors and races of ppl! I knew no differences in others. We had a neighbor who was of Africian American descent,she loved my sister and I as her own. I think of her often throughout my life. When we had to leave post bc dad was transferred,she bathed my sister and I ,dressed us up in matching suits she had bought and cried like her heart was broken when we said goodbye. I was 7 at the time! I accept ppl for the heart they present to me ,not what I see,and bc of this I can say I truly love ppl! I don't live my life in fear,my neighborhood is racially mixed,I feel safe here! Before the throne will be.multitudes of ppl from every race,kindred,tongue and nation! God is AWESOME!
 

PennEd

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There is only ONE race. We are all different shades of the same basic tan color.
People have always found a reason to hate their fellow man. Skin shade is just an easier way.

So the word “racism “ has no meaning. We are all from the same blood.
What matters is if you are my sister or brother in Christ to me. And I’d like to have more siblings!!
 

Lanolin

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What is the 'race card?' People talk about it as if its something, but what is it?

Racism exists amongst unbelievers but it also I found it does exist in some churches too. Very sad. Especially amonst people who forbid speaking in tongues I found. Just because one person cant understand unknown tongues, they try and forbid others from speaking it.
 
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Susanna

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Racism isn’t only about skin color.

If I tell people that I’m encountering racism, they’ll just laugh in my face because I’m fair skinned, blonde and blue eyed.

Truth is that I’m often encountering racism.

First of all, my native language is not English. When I speak everyone can tell my native language is French. I try to hide it, but yet it shows. So I have heard on many occasions that I should just go back to the swamps and wrestle alligators, eat frogs etc.

But since I’m white no one will actually listen if I tell them. So I just keep it shut.

Racism is not only something non whites are experiencing.
 

Lanolin

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Interesting about idealogies, although people tend to think cos you a certain look, you subscribe to a certain idealogy.

My experience is that when some people ask you where you are from they are implying you are not from where they are from. Ie, they see you as foreigner. Because you ask them the same question and they look at you weird.
 

DustyRhodes

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Hi,Lanolin! Blessings to you. I can only speak from my own experiences in life. My dad was in the Military,you were housed with many different colors and races of ppl! I knew no differences in others. We had a neighbor who was of Africian American descent,she loved my sister and I as her own. I think of her often throughout my life. When we had to leave post bc dad was transferred,she bathed my sister and I ,dressed us up in matching suits she had bought and cried like her heart was broken when we said goodbye. I was 7 at the time! I accept ppl for the heart they present to me ,not what I see,and bc of this I can say I truly love ppl! I don't live my life in fear,my neighborhood is racially mixed,I feel safe here! Before the throne will be.multitudes of ppl from every race,kindred,tongue and nation! God is AWESOME!
 

DustyRhodes

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I totally agree with you...until 7years old i grew up in the
middle of nowhere in Canada. Up to that time I had not
seen anyone but white. At that time we moved to a small
town which wasn't much different. I got introduced to
baseball cards and finally saw people who were not white.
When I was about 14, the Harlem Globetrotters came to
town to play exhibition basketball game and I saw in real
life someone of different color. I was never told I shouldn't
like them or be afraid of them. So from that day on, I never
felt they were any different than anyone except in color. We
are all one in God. I now live in a medium size city that has
been mainly white all of its existence until about 40 years
ago and now we are multi racial to the point where whites
are falling behind other ethnic people. And God bless us,
we totally coexist as one. Not because we are homogenous
but because we enjoy whoever comes here to live. In short,
anyone who hates another that is a different race is not a
person of Christ. We cannot hate and be Godly as Jesus said,
anyone who hates his brother already sins.
 
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Do you ever encounter racism?
What do you do about it? Why do people have this idea that people of a certain colour only belong to certain countries. Weird. If you are born in a land, you belong to it no matter what colour your skin is or what you look like. If you choose to make your home here, thats home is where you are right now.

What do you think? Is it just a way of saying 'you are different and you dont belong here?'
Most of the time comments regarding peoples culture is labelled racist. It isn't so much racism, as the fact some of these people simply cannot assimilate into the western way of life. It causes all sorts of problems in society, ethnic ghettos, crime, worshipping of different Gods and idols.
 

Lanolin

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What exactly is...the 'western' way of life?
What about westerners who go east and cant assimilate there? They are sure to have a culture shock.

Its kinda weird that some people have never seen anyone that looks different from themselves, but humans tend to sort into like groups. And the most obvious one is skin colour, then eye colour and hair colour, although people can dye their hair and it does go white eventually.
 

Lanolin

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I often wondered how Esther could keep her jewish identity secret, that it wasnt even obvious to anyone even her own husband that she was jewish. For dont jewish people have a certain look about them that makes them stand out from other groups of people?

But the thing is if your skin or hair colour is markedly different from anyone elses, you will stand out. You can change your clothes, but you cant really change your skin tone. Albeit temproary. I always thought it was strange how white people always wanted to have sun tans. If your skin is naturally brown or dark you would think wow people spend all this money at a a tanning salon?!
 
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I'm from the United States. Unfortunately, for many race is at the heart of their beliefs and conduct.

When I encounter a person with a racist belief, most of the time I just ignore it and take it in stride. I would be lying to say that I have never gotten mad about it. I grapple with the temptation to become angry with adversity, and have failed many times to show love in its face, though I should.

Political issues such as race/demographics, economics/class, and others are ones that I have routinely tried to remove myself from as they have proved (in my case at least) to lead only to anger and quarreling.

We are called to love everyone, including our enemies, and including racists as well. I want to strive to lean on Christ in times when I am witnessing racism against others, or when I am experiencing it firsthand. I know I should not let my natural impulses dictate my behavior in the face of hate: Racists were created in God's image, and for whatever reason departed from his will, like everyone who is saved did at one point. I must love and pray for racists, not react with anger.
 

Lanolin

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I had a racist workmate and he thought anyone that wasnt english or white was just stupid, he would rail against indians, islanders. Maori, asians and make derogatory comments about them all the time. As well as women, who he labelled as weak. I was told I needed to joina gym just cos I couldnt lift an overloaded wheelbarrow on my own. He continued until a girl joined the company who was half indian half english/pakeha.

I would just say to him not everyone is like you. Or if i was feeling a bit snarky not everyone is perfect like you!
 

Roughsoul1991

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What is the 'race card?' People talk about it as if its something, but what is it?

Racism exists amongst unbelievers but it also I found it does exist in some churches too. Very sad. Especially amonst people who forbid speaking in tongues I found. Just because one person cant understand unknown tongues, they try and forbid others from speaking it.
Playing the race card is an idiomatic phrase that refers to the exploitation of either racist or anti-racist attitudes. Because of Americas past the minorities in America can easily exploit the race card in order to gain advantage of white guilt which is defined as the individual or collective guilt felt by some white people for harm resulting from racist treatment of ethnic minorities by the white people of the past.

As for idealogies take a look at these 2018 statistics.

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As you can see in America whites largely vote Republican while the minorities largely vote Democratic. Well the idealogies of each group are increasingly dividing each election.
Here are the latest results.


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This all shows that the battleground is over idealogies and not skin color. Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians vote left while most whites vote right as to why the race card is used so so much so that the liberal left can try to gain votes.
 

Lanolin

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Meh but thats only politics, im talking personal interactions which happen in YOUR everyday life.

Im really not interested in the way people vote. In america or any other country.

Women were excluded from the vote until recent times, so thats nothing new.
 

Lanolin

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Racism in the Bible...when the egyptians killed all the hebrew baby boys. The treated the hebrews harshly and enslaved them.

Funny thing is then when Jesus was born, King Herod, who was meant to be their own king (he was half hebrew? Or married to one?) then ended up persecuting his own and so Joseph and Mary fled, where to...Egypt!

And it seems they had safe haven there.

Another way Jesus reversed racist attitudes is he opened up salvation to the Gentiles. That was anyone who wasnt Jewish. Previously they had excluded anyone who wasnt jewish and male from setting foot into the temple even if they wanted to worship God.
 

Lanolin

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I was thinking about this whole out of egypt thing. Moses was brought up egyptian in the pHaroahs house.
But he killed an egyptian for dissing a hebrew man.

When the isrealites escaped egypt and were wandering in the wilderness, the people might have felt relieved they werent enslaved anymore, but the one thing they missed about egypt, not the egyptians, but the food!

Which is something I find interesting that people can be racist, but if you go eat with them and try out someone elses cuisine, racist attitudes can fall by the wayside. The very first thing God did to reconcile the jews with the gentiles is tell Peter he could eat with them. And not to call them unclean. Skin colour or appearance didnt seem to be the main issue....

Now what ive noticed is this, my mother can be very racist about food to the extent its no good taking her to a non chinese restaurant as she will denigrate any other kind of food. And ive heard many british or english people refuse to try anything that isnt bangers and mash, labelling other food as 'foreign muck'. Is it just a matter of tastebuds? They cant eat with chopsticks or refuse to try? People have embraced americans mainly becuase of KFC and mcDonalds. Think on it!