Suicide

If you're born again and commit suicide you won't go to hell......./QUOTE]

Please show that in scripture?

That is not scripture AT ALL .......unless you repent. Where in the world/bible did you conclude that from?

Very miss leading.

Today March 27, 2019 marks the 8th year that my step-daughter took her own life. Some things just refuse to heal.

If you think every Christian has duly repented of every sin....think again.

Come down off your high horse then maybe I can explain the obvious.

If you're born again and commit suicide you won't go to hell.
If you're not born again and commit suicide you will go to hell.

If you commit suicide do you go to hell? What if you have failed at suicide then later die of natural causes?

Are you GOD? If not how could you possibly know what every Christian has done or is doing period?

Suicide or murder is a work of the flesh. Believers are not saved or unsaved by their works, "It is by grace we are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it (salvation) is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9). "In Him, you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory." (Ephesians 1:13-14.) That being said, all believers have a purpose in their lives, which is to bring glory onto God and share the Gospel of Christ. If we focus on being a shining light to others by walking in faith, and resting in Christ and allowing Him to take our burdens from us, we will be victorious. We may not understand why many of us endure terrible trials in our lives, such as serious health concerns, death of loved one(s), divorce, loss of job/income, home, family; physically and emotionally beaten, etc., but we must not lean on our own understanding but rather rely on the knowledge that God loves us, and that He wants us to take good care of the body that He created for us during our temporary time here on earth.

Life is not ours to take. That includes our own.

If you think every Christian has duly repented of every sin....think again.

Today March 27, 2019 marks the 8th year that my step-daughter took her own life. Some things just refuse to heal.

I know what I'm doing. And I assume other sinners are not so different.

I know what I'm doing. And I assume other sinners are not so different.

If you think every Christian has duly repented of every sin....think again.

It’s not sinning I’m talking about. It’s the complete feeling of despair that causes the sin. I don’t see how anyone can commit their life, believe He is Lord and has eternal rewards in store for them and still be so upset about their current situation to end it permanently. It just doesn’t compute. It’s not a natural desire for any organism to want to die. You have to reach an ultimate low, and feel like there is no way out. I just don’t see how you can have saving faith and still reach that level of despair. It’s not a quick decision. People who make that choice have thought about it for a long time. Within that time if they haven’t considered what God thinks about it then they really don’t care what God thinks.

If someones not in their right mind they need God more than anything because God does not give us a spirit of fear, but one of love, and power and a SOUND MIND.

Doublemindedness is an affliction, we are to be singleminded for God.
Someone who is doubleminded is being influenced by satan. They are constantly vacilliating or wavering between right and wrong. They cannot receive anything from God if they continue to be in two minds about Him.

With something like bipolar disorder, the mind is unstable and sensitive to outside influences, its not balanced. What I learned is one needs to fix ones mind on God, who gives us His peace, and is the solid rock so that we will NOT waver. When you do that, bipolar disorder will leave. It the enemy trying to influence and rock the boat so that you will have a breakdown or capsize. But what was Jesus like on the boat, even in the storm? He was having a nap! He was so calm and peaceful, and completely trusting in His Father!

Exactly! You do not understand mental illness or depression. Sometimes it is situational, but most of the time it is a chemical imbalance in the brain. The physical brain! Nothing to do with the Spirit!

Many Christians have become depressed. At one point, when my RA was so bad I couldn't get out of bed, I turned my face away from God. For 2 years. I was angry at God, but he was not angry at me! He allowed me to go through it, so when helped me recover, he gave me a ministry of helping the hurting and broken. I never stopped believing in God, but I wanted nothing to do with him. God told me to read 5 Psalms a day, which I did for 2 years. First thing was realizing how the health and wealth gospel was found no where in the Psalms. People hurt and cried out to God. That is what believers do. Our lives aren't perfect in a fallen world, and when bad things happen, we generally either lash out at God, or turn away. But, God can use it for his glory.

So next time you go talking about things you know NOTHING about, maybe read the Psalms or Job and learn that sometimes the most faithful servant of God who is hurting, can be driven off the deep end. I can only praise God for leading me safely through the valley of the shadow of death!

Such nonsense! Bipolar disorder is a physical brain disorder. It can be helped with drugs, and many people who are not Christian live normal lives with it, provided they stay on their meds. (And Christians, too!) And while people were afflicted in the Bible by demons, that is not the same as modern bipolar.

I run a bipolar group, some are Christians, some are atheist, Buddhist and we had a Muslim once for a while. The symptoms were all the same, because bipolar disorder is not spiritual. One woman is a very strong Christian. She is really bad, has to take lots of meds. But she befriends everyone in the forum, and witnesses to them. And prays for people. I feel sorry she has bipolar so badly, but she is content to be in a ministry not many people go into. I also stand up for Christ, although I am more there to keep things running smoothly.

The word translated as "sound mind" in the KJV is σωφρονισμοῦ in Greek. It is a hapax legomena, meaning it is only found one time in the Bible. Paul uses a cognate word in 1 Tim. 3:2, as "prudent, thoughtful, self-controlled." In fact, Paul uses this to describe in this context, a combination of the characteristics of prudence and self-discipline. While "sound mind" could be a use of the word, it does not fit the context of the chapter and book. It is not talking about mental illness, but rather that as Christians we have to have self control or discipline.* So try quoting a newer version, which uses modern language.

In fact, bipolar disorder is just another disease! God does heal, but not everyone. I find it hard to believe you were ever truly bipolar, probably borderline is more like it. But again, I am talking to you.

*George W. Knight III, The Pastoral Epistles, from the New International Greek Testament Commentary, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, MI, 1992, 372.