Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Lightskin said:
Abiders in the law don’t abide perfectly thus the abiding is moot. Exhibit A is the lack of love displayed all too often from law abiders throughout various posts.
How about you respond to what Lightskin said which was, "Abiders in the law don’t abide perfectly thus the abiding is moot."
As it is impossible to keep the law perfectly, all law abiders are condemned. It is so sad you cannot see that.
Abiders in the law don’t abide perfectly thus the abiding is moot. Exhibit A is the lack of love displayed all too often from law abiders throughout various posts.
How about you respond to what Lightskin said which was, "Abiders in the law don’t abide perfectly thus the abiding is moot."
As it is impossible to keep the law perfectly, all law abiders are condemned. It is so sad you cannot see that.
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(egadz PH! I'm only up to Friday at 10:58 PM, in trying to get caught up in these posts! I may never get caught up the rate this thread keeps growing 
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The problem/s, therefore the conflict/s, come from ones who have accepted Christ, and the everlasting (not eternal) salvation that is a gift. (To which God placed such a conviction on them, as to bring them to Christ.)
And, to some of these? That is well enough! Therefore there is now no condemnation to those in Christ.
These ones in Christ, however, are not the same, as those who were in Christ, but grew (pressed on) as the "Spirit of God" grew in them. Not allowing, nor being allowed, "traditions of man" to make void the "Spirit of God" that was/is in them.
But, rather "going on to the Father" as they confessed Jesus before men. And, placing themselves UNDER "The AUTHORITY of the order of Melchizadek. Thus not only being, and becoming Priests of Christ! But, also Priests of He who sent Christ! Thus, becoming not only a "brother" with Christ! But, a Priest of the Most High, as well! Thus, like Christ, preaching and teaching "the Kingdom."
Thus making the "many that are called", in their displays of sheer numbers, CONDEMN the "few who are chosen." Because of their unbelief, which causes this lack of understanding which is seen, time and time again. In thread after thread. Post after post.
These "many called", fail "proof after proof", from God (not Christ), in their "candidacy" into this "Forever Holy Priesthood."
Jez trying to explain PH, what's going on.
Let the condemnation/s continue, eh?
)The problem/s, therefore the conflict/s, come from ones who have accepted Christ, and the everlasting (not eternal) salvation that is a gift. (To which God placed such a conviction on them, as to bring them to Christ.)
And, to some of these? That is well enough! Therefore there is now no condemnation to those in Christ.
These ones in Christ, however, are not the same, as those who were in Christ, but grew (pressed on) as the "Spirit of God" grew in them. Not allowing, nor being allowed, "traditions of man" to make void the "Spirit of God" that was/is in them.
But, rather "going on to the Father" as they confessed Jesus before men. And, placing themselves UNDER "The AUTHORITY of the order of Melchizadek. Thus not only being, and becoming Priests of Christ! But, also Priests of He who sent Christ! Thus, becoming not only a "brother" with Christ! But, a Priest of the Most High, as well! Thus, like Christ, preaching and teaching "the Kingdom."
Thus making the "many that are called", in their displays of sheer numbers, CONDEMN the "few who are chosen." Because of their unbelief, which causes this lack of understanding which is seen, time and time again. In thread after thread. Post after post.
These "many called", fail "proof after proof", from God (not Christ), in their "candidacy" into this "Forever Holy Priesthood."
Jez trying to explain PH, what's going on.
Let the condemnation/s continue, eh?
The "group of many" are happy to "make it to heaven" through the belief in Christ, happy with everlasting salvation.
The laws, the OT, the prophets, have no meaning as they " have attained" their everlasting salvation
Group #2
This "group of few" are not satisfied with "making it "to" heaven, and only having everlasting salvation. This group MUST, can not stop, are drawn past, continue on seeking for "eternal salvation" . Like baptism is a first step in the Walk with Christ here, everlasting salvation is the first step on the walk to eternal salvation, which, in this group, EVERY WORD OF GOD, not just what saves, is the bread of life. They move past being saved and are working towards the Priesthood of God, to reign with Christ, and only through deep study into the entire WORD of God may that be possible.
Though there is a New Covenant, and those in Christ are happily covered, for those in Group #2 it does not change much in their lives as NONE OF THE WORD OF GOD LOSES ANY OF ITS POWER AND REMAINS JUST AS VAILD AS EVER FOR THEM in their lives as they are seeking a different destination.
How am I doing so far? Am I hearing?
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I think I am reading you correctly, but I think the point being made was that without the Law there was no penalty applied to sins.
I think there is sufficient proof in scripture that God's commandments existed from the Beginning.
I also believe that the Commandments of God continue today and will continue as along as free will exists.
I listed only a few in Post #5136 all before the Sinai "Giving of the Law".
I recognize the scripture and experience the anointing of the Holy Spirit that has changed my relationship to The Law.
Good citizens of any community see Law enforcement and feel comforted by their presence. Criminals see Law enforcement and mutter/murmur under their breath obscenities about them because to them they represent a big problem! Their lifestyles as "lawbreakers" makes them fearful and at odds with them. Same with the Laws of God. Anyone who rejects and "abhors" Gods laws are at odds with those laws and will by default, like the example of the criminals in any community despise anything that reminds them of the existence of "Order". But to those who Love His Laws that order is lovely and comforting!
SG
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John 1:12
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to BECOME the sons of God,
Romans 8
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to BECOME the sons of God,
Romans 8
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
It is so strange and wonderful when another truth is opened up. Words and thoughts that just a moment before were unable to be "seen" are opened up and your eyes and heart and mind are flooded with the truth. All that knowledge that was on the shelf put together to be seen so clearly. God I love the Word. I love this journey.
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this is the reason why the word of the Lord to them is precept upon precept, line upon line. in order that they fall and be broken and taken.
line upon line, precept upon precept here is not being described as a good thing. it's being described as a means of just and righteous destruction of those who are offered rest, to give to the weary, but refuse it.
there's a contrast here: rest for the weary vs. line upon line and precept upon precept.
a ministration of life or a ministration of death, set before us
and here is where it is different for me, where others may find it "weary" I find life. It is what my spirit craves and can't get enough of. It is all I want to do, I am captured and held its captive like, ALL THE TIME. When I am not studying, I am pondering what I have just studied. Rather than weary I find it invigorating.
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It is so strange how we go round and round on this one. To try to keep the law as a "carnal man" is the same as asking a kleptomaniac candy feind to keep his hand in his pockets in serve yourself/honor system candy store, let's make that a gourmet candy store! He would have no rest in trying or succeeding in his attempts! But the Justified man who goes on to receive the anointing of the Holy Spirit who subdues his Kleptomaniasm and replaces it with a love for Gods law not to steaal and for the candy store owner, well he has rest in his decision not to steal any candy! It's now the predominate desire over his once predominate desire to steal! New creation, no longer "under the Law", but at peace with it! In fact he no longer hates the law that condemned Him, but now loves it! Same law, different heart, new position in relation to it!
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No? Because, just as Christendom is today?
They are not them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Though they fancy themselves as such! And, don't mind preaching and teaching this to others.
"Might makes Right!" Right?
Nope!
This is why the "Word of the Lord" trips 'em up! And, they fall! And, they're broken!
But, yet "see themselves" as by sheer numbers, and being full, and clothed.
But, are starved, and naked!
Which they hate when it is exposed!
It's like they see themselves as having to denounce Christ, to be "chosen!"
When it isn't!
They are not them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Though they fancy themselves as such! And, don't mind preaching and teaching this to others.
"Might makes Right!" Right?
Nope!
This is why the "Word of the Lord" trips 'em up! And, they fall! And, they're broken!
But, yet "see themselves" as by sheer numbers, and being full, and clothed.
But, are starved, and naked!
Which they hate when it is exposed!
It's like they see themselves as having to denounce Christ, to be "chosen!"
When it isn't!
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Holy smokes! The above comment was actually given a Red X. The same individual stated I need to LET GO OF CHRIST.
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Ok? Are you an "adopted son of Christ?"
Or, an "adopted son of God?"
As is written, you have the "power to become" a son of God.
Romans 8
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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i wouldn't call that 'falling backward, being broken, snared and taken'
we say someone is smitten when they've been punched or slain.
we also say that when someone has fallen in love
we say someone is smitten when they've been punched or slain.
we also say that when someone has fallen in love
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