Luke 17 - Where are they taken?

Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

I wish I could remember who pointed this out to me so I could give them credit for it, but someone on CC showed me this a year or two ago and I got busy and kind of forgot about it. That person showed me that the ones that were taken, were taken to the dead body in verse 37.

I believe the dead body was the body of Christ and the eagles are believers. One reason I believe this is because we mount up with eagles wings and we feed on the body of Christ... there are other reasons to, but now I have satisfied the requirements of p_rehbein, I've given my thoughts lol.

What are your thought?
What is the dead body and what do the eagles represent?

I believe the dead body was the body of Christ and the eagles are believers.

One taken = the wicked (taken by the angels to be killed)

One left = The righteous (gathered after the wicked)

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it will be in the days of the Son of man
People were eating and drinking,marrying and being given in marriage up to the day
Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

Luke 17: 26-27 NIV

It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling
planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom fire and sulphur rained down from
heaven and destroyed them all.

Luke 17: 28 -29 NIV

It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no-one
who is on the roof of his house with his goods inside should go down and get them
Likewise no-one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lots wife!
Whosoever tries to keep his life shall lose it and whosoever loses his life shall
shall preserve it.

Luke 17: 30 - 33 NIV

I tell you on that night two people will be in one bed
one will be taken and another left. Two women will be grinding
corn together one will be taken and the other left. Where Lord they asked
He replied where there is a dead body the vultures will be gathered together.

Luke 17: 34 - 37 NIV

And I saw an Angel standing in the Sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the
birds flying in mid air Come gather together for the great supper of God
So that you may eat the flesh of kings generals and mighty men, of horses and their
riders and the flesh of all people free and slave small and great.

Rev 19: 17 - 19 NIV

Now brothers about times and dates we do not need to write to you for you know very well the day of the lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying peace and safety destruction will come on them suddenly as labour pains on a pregnant woman and they will not escape

1 Thess 5: 1 - 3

To understand what Jesus is saying to his disciples we need to read the conversation in context. He gives examples of Noah and Lots
days and what happened to the people outside the Ark and inside Sodom. He goes on to advise them to flee and not bother to collect anything from their homes. If this was about some silent pre tribulation rapture what would be the point of telling them all this?
The emphasis is on sudden destruction when its not expected by the world in general and Israel in particular. Paul confirms this
in 1 Thessalonians. Jesus is not talking about the rapture. He is talking about the second coming and Armageddon. The rapture
happens at the second coming. Its not the people left behind who are destroyed but the people who are taken. Noah was left behind in the Ark and Lot was left behind when Sodom was destroyed.

but He lives; He's not dead, neither is His body.
and per Leviticus 11:13 & Deuteronomy 14:12, eagles are unclean

Eze 17:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;
Eze 17:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar:
Eze 17:4 He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants.
Eze 17:5 He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree.
Eze 17:6 And it grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature, whose branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof were under him: so it became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs.

Who is that eagle?

I am Letting the verse say what it says and bringing in the other scriptures which support the end of the age. It's just a matter of you understanding the events which take place as Jesus is returning to the earth to end the age.

"Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left."

Where, Lord (where are they going to be taken?)

"Jesus answered, “Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.”

Those who are taken, are taken by the angels as the Lord is returning to the earth to end the age. They are alive when they are taken and are then killed by that double-edged sword that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord. Below is what happens to them when the angels take them to the Lord:

"And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

"The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh."

In conclusion, the "one taken" group who are being compared to the wicked who are taken in the flood, will be collected/taken by the angels at the end of the age and will be brought to where Armageddon is taking place and all of those kings, generals, mighty men, horses and the "one taken" group will be killed. This entire group will be made up of all the wicked who survive the tribulation period.

Those who are taken will become the dead bodies. They're being taken by the angels to be killed by that double-edged sword.

When Jesus said, "one will be taken" the disciples said, "Where, Lord," i.e. where are they going to be taken? Then Jesus answers "wherever the carcass (dead body) is, there will the vultures be gathered. Therefore, the "one taken" group, which represent the wicked, are those who will be collected by the angels at the end of the age and will be taken to Jesus to be killed by that double-edged sword, where their spirits are thrown into the furnace.

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it will be in the days of the Son of man
People were eating and drinking,marrying and being given in marriage up to the day
Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

Luke 17: 26-27 NIV

It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling
planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom fire and sulphur rained down from
heaven and destroyed them all.

Luke 17: 28 -29 NIV

It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no-one
who is on the roof of his house with his goods inside should go down and get them
Likewise no-one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lots wife!
Whosoever tries to keep his life shall lose it and whosoever loses his life shall
shall preserve it.

Luke 17: 30 - 33 NIV

I tell you on that night two people will be in one bed
one will be taken and another left. Two women will be grinding
corn together one will be taken and the other left. Where Lord they asked
He replied where there is a dead body the vultures will be gathered together.

Luke 17: 34 - 37 NIV

And I saw an Angel standing in the Sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the
birds flying in mid air Come gather together for the great supper of God
So that you may eat the flesh of kings generals and mighty men, of horses and their
riders and the flesh of all people free and slave small and great.

Rev 19: 17 - 19 NIV

Now brothers about times and dates we do not need to write to you for you know very well the day of the lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying peace and safety destruction will come on them suddenly as labour pains on a pregnant woman and they will not escape

1 Thess 5: 1 - 3

To understand what Jesus is saying to his disciples we need to read the conversation in context. He gives examples of Noah and Lots
days and what happened to the people outside the Ark and inside Sodom. He goes on to advise them to flee and not bother to collect anything from their homes. If this was about some silent pre tribulation rapture what would be the point of telling them all this?
The emphasis is on sudden destruction when its not expected by the world in general and Israel in particular. Paul confirms this
in 1 Thessalonians. Jesus is not talking about the rapture. He is talking about the second coming and Armageddon. The rapture
happens at the second coming. Its not the people left behind who are destroyed but the people who are taken. Noah was left behind in the Ark and Lot was left behind when Sodom was destroyed.

This refers directly to the Battle of Armageddon, and not the Rapture as some think! Ezek. 39:17

JSM

The eagle is a unclean animal used to represent unbelief. Just as Balaam's Ass was used in another parables giving us the same kind of understanding of the gospel hid .

I would say the eagle represents a messenger that brings the word of God. But it is not the invisible source of the word . Even the Son of man refused to stand in that holy unseen place , but rather gave glory to the father unseen .In that way we look to what the eyes see the temporal to give us the unseen eternal understanding of the parable revealing the gospel.

How beautiful are the feet of them .I would say he uses different metaphors to express he is not served by human hands typified as unclean . we plant the seed or the eagle plants it but Only God not seen can cause the growth.

Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

I wish I could remember who pointed this out to me so I could give them credit for it, but someone on CC showed me this a year or two ago and I got busy and kind of forgot about it. That person showed me that the ones that were taken, were taken to the dead body in verse 37.

I believe the dead body was the body of Christ and the eagles are believers. One reason I believe this is because we mount up with eagles wings and we feed on the body of Christ... there are other reasons to, but now I have satisfied the requirements of p_rehbein, I've given my thoughts lol.

What are your thought?
What is the dead body and what do the eagles represent?

It is a phrase,not a place.
If i say "where there is smoke,there is fire" in answer to a question "is that bully gonna cause problems at school today"
I am not connecting ANYTHING in that phrase to smoke or fire.

That is why it is confusing.
In Jesus's answer He gave them a riddle.

The vulture dead body guessing game is a rabbit trail.

It was prophesied the messiah would come teacjing in riddles (parables)
We see it in pharoas dream and Joseph's dream.

If you miss the q and a you miss the meaning.

If you compile the ascribed answers to the bodies and vultures you will see a maze of guesswork. One guess after another.

That could be the case but we are also told that the disciple would not cover the cities of Israel until the Son of man be come. Couple those verses together and you get the resurrection of Christ.

Mat 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

If you think the son of God has already come (second coming)then we are on separate planets.

Half the bible is going to be either a cunning interpretation or confusion

Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

I wish I could remember who pointed this out to me so I could give them credit for it, but someone on CC showed me this a year or two ago and I got busy and kind of forgot about it. That person showed me that the ones that were taken, were taken to the dead body in verse 37.

I believe the dead body was the body of Christ and the eagles are believers. One reason I believe this is because we mount up with eagles wings and we feed on the body of Christ... there are other reasons to, but now I have satisfied the requirements of p_rehbein, I've given my thoughts lol.

What are your thought?
What is the dead body and what do the eagles represent?

He goes on to advise them to flee and not bother to collect anything from their homes. If this was about some silent pre tribulation rapture what would be the point of telling them all this?

The emphasis is on sudden destruction when its not expected by the world in general and Israel in particular. Paul confirms this in 1 Thessalonians. Jesus is not talking about the rapture. He is talking about the second coming and Armageddon.

The rapture happens at the second coming.

Its not the people left behind who are destroyed but the people who are taken. Noah was left behind in the Ark and Lot was left behind when Sodom was destroyed.