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Was your score higher than 70%


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Roughsoul1991

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#21
No once finished you go to a new tab page with your results.
4% secular is just the ammunition that those who rule the BDF will use against me :eek:
I wouldn't be worried over 4%. I would be worried if it was 70% lol.

But having done a lot of research on this topic the last couple of years as I prepare my kids for leaving the home. This survey is accurate dealing with misguided ideas that secular worldviews are promoting into the church.

4% doesn't mean your secular but that you probably answered 1 question that was rooted from a secular idea.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#22
It's just a poll someone dreamed up.

It might say that I'm 4% Martian, lol.

That's why I'm not going to take it.
:eek:
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Nah it wasn't designed to show what species you are or what planet. So your identity is probably safe for now.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#23
Don't take me too seriously - I am amusing myself here on CC in a forum outside of the BDF
branching out with a little lighthearted social interaction.


But real men are 100% from Mars!
Lol thought you was seriously upset.
 
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#25
Exactly my point for posting this was to show most of us can unite on the core baseline message of Christianity. If you want to divide and bog down over certain theological disagreements then in my opinion that doesn't help soul salvation.

Greetings RS,

I see your point and while it is valid there are grievous errors in the body today that are shipwrecking souls. Humanism and Utilitarianism have slipped in and now many efforts are "man centered" rather than "Christ centered". Using God as a means to an end rather than The End of all our hopes. The very center of our "Self" that Yahshua cane to deliver us from is now the very thing that is being preserves as a primary consideration rather than what is to be sacrificed. To win one soul and lock them up into error will incur judgement all around.

If your view, which I agree with to a point, if correct would mean that James and Peter were in error for the time they spent clarifying doctrine with Paul over matters of obedience to the commandments of God. This essentially is the argument that is being rehashed yet again! Even Peter warned;

2Pe 3:15-17 NIV Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. (16) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. (17) Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.

I too love prison ministry and and all the ministries that carry the pure message of the Gospel to those who are being led to Repentance by The Heavenly Father. But to harvest a field and let it set in the field where they are not led to the pl;ace where all must go to bear fruit is a waste and must, at all cost be guided into the full salvation of Repentance, Justification and Sanctification through the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Led safely here where they too may be sown in death to self and bring forth new life and bear fruit to the glory of our Heavenly Father!

In our day we know this corruption in not a possibility but an absolute. We were forewarned of this because we were to watch for it and reject it from among us. This is the matter we are all trying to work through and rid from among us, and yes, it is distracting from the work of making disciples of men.

I will not withhold mentioning my admiration for your work and am humbled by your sincerity and diligence.

SG
 

Roughsoul1991

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#26
Greetings RS,

I see your point and while it is valid there are grievous errors in the body today that are shipwrecking souls. Humanism and Utilitarianism have slipped in and now many efforts are "man centered" rather than "Christ centered". Using God as a means to an end rather than The End of all our hopes. The very center of our "Self" that Yahshua cane to deliver us from is now the very thing that is being preserves as a primary consideration rather than what is to be sacrificed. To win one soul and lock them up into error will incur judgement all around.

If your view, which I agree with to a point, if correct would mean that James and Peter were in error for the time they spent clarifying doctrine with Paul over matters of obedience to the commandments of God. This essentially is the argument that is being rehashed yet again! Even Peter warned;

2Pe 3:15-17 NIV Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. (16) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. (17) Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.

I too love prison ministry and and all the ministries that carry the pure message of the Gospel to those who are being led to Repentance by The Heavenly Father. But to harvest a field and let it set in the field where they are not led to the pl;ace where all must go to bear fruit is a waste and must, at all cost be guided into the full salvation of Repentance, Justification and Sanctification through the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Led safely here where they too may be sown in death to self and bring forth new life and bear fruit to the glory of our Heavenly Father!

In our day we know this corruption in not a possibility but an absolute. We were forewarned of this because we were to watch for it and reject it from among us. This is the matter we are all trying to work through and rid from among us, and yes, it is distracting from the work of making disciples of men.

I will not withhold mentioning my admiration for your work and am humbled by your sincerity and diligence.

SG
Thanks and as you may can see my reasoning behind this subject. Of course we know that Paul and Barnabas debated Jewish believers in Acts and then the Apostles also debated the same issue over holding Gentiles to the law. And we saw Paul correct Peter and Peter admit some of Paul's teachings are hard to understand.

I wasn't implying that debate was bad but hostility and over zealous self righteousness is bad. When we all act in some degree from ignorance because we are finite human beings with minimal energy, different IQs, brain capacity, different experiences, and different stages of life.

To me we have everything the Apostles wanted us to know in scripture but yet even the greatest heroes of the faith throughout history didn't fully agree on every doctrine.

So from my perspective we as humans really complicate the message but in reality Jesus made it simple when he said

Matthew 28:16-20 New International Version (NIV)
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

If we preach the Bible plainly that in itself is perfect. We debate over details and in depth theological questions but if you just read the Word. It will save regardless of which in depth theological beliefs we hold.

For example the Word teaches a Hell exists and is a eternal punishment. That is the simple text. But we want to complicate it and try to pick it apart and divide over rather Hell is eternal punishment for the living soul or Hell would be totally annihilated and the eternal punishment is forever separation from God.

Either way Hell exists, the souls get punished and either punishment is eternal and God is still all just for either belief.

Most of the great heroes of faith like for example Billy Graham. If you ever hear one of his sermons it was never too detailed but straight forward. Most Christians could agree with his message even though I am sure personally his beliefs on doctrines wouldn't 100% line up with mine, yours or others.
 

tourist

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#27
Took the test and it states that I'm 100% Christian. Now, that's just what the test results say, I am a Christian but perhaps not 100% of the time.
 
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#29
Thanks and as you may can see my reasoning behind this subject. Of course we know that Paul and Barnabas debated Jewish believers in Acts and then the Apostles also debated the same issue over holding Gentiles to the law. And we saw Paul correct Peter and Peter admit some of Paul's teachings are hard to understand.

I wasn't implying that debate was bad but hostility and over zealous self righteousness is bad. When we all act in some degree from ignorance because we are finite human beings with minimal energy, different IQs, brain capacity, different experiences, and different stages of life.

To me we have everything the Apostles wanted us to know in scripture but yet even the greatest heroes of the faith throughout history didn't fully agree on every doctrine.

So from my perspective we as humans really complicate the message but in reality Jesus made it simple when he said

Not a simple matter. There is a fine line between error and evil and in today's permissive society fewer are left who have the determination to expose it.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#30
Not a simple matter. There is a fine line between error and evil and in today's permissive society fewer are left who have the determination to expose it.
I fine line seems quite simple to me.
 

Nehemiah6

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I am a Christian but perhaps not 100% of the time.
You know as well as anyone else that that is INCORRECT. You are either a Christian 100% of the time, or you are not a Christian at all. You may not always be perfect (in your words and actions) but God has declared you to be perfect in Christ.

I did not take this survey because there was not need to ask for names and email addresses. That to me was intrusive.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#32
You know as well as anyone else that that is INCORRECT. You are either a Christian 100% of the time, or you are not a Christian at all. You may not always be perfect (in your words and actions) but God has declared you to be perfect in Christ.

I did not take this survey because there was not need to ask for names and email addresses. That to me was intrusive.
I think we all knew what he meant.

Summit Ministries is a great ministry and source for apologetic material for youth and older. It has great resources from the best in apologetics.

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tourist

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#33
You know as well as anyone else that that is INCORRECT. You are either a Christian 100% of the time, or you are not a Christian at all. You may not always be perfect (in your words and actions) but God has declared you to be perfect in Christ.

I did not take this survey because there was not need to ask for names and email addresses. That to me was intrusive.
God bless you for your kind encouraging words.