Acts 2:32

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bluto

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Could you possibly post the verses and maybe your reasoning behind the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all being involved?
Maybe the following will help you since I posted this earlier today.

All three persons of the Trinity raised Jesus Christ from the dead. John 2:19,
"Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple and in three days I WILL RASIE IT UP."
John 2:21, "But He was speaking of the temple of His body."

And at Romans 6:4 we have God the Father rasing Jesus from the dead. Then at Romans 8:11
it says, "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised
Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your motral bodies through His Spirit who
indwells you." Please notice the "distinction" of persons within the Godhead in this one
verse. In short, all three persons raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Any questions I will be
happy to address. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
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Could you possibly post the verses and maybe your reasoning behind the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all being involved?
That’s not to hard

Matthew 3
16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
 
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Another interesting thing is the creation of the human eye, which only has three cone cells,
the red cone cells mostly detect red light, the green cone cells mostly detect green light, and the blue cone cells mostly detect blue light. ... Therefore, even though humans do not have yellow cone cells, we can still see yellow light when it triggers a red cone cell and a green cone cell.
 

Nehemiah6

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Could you possibly post the verses and maybe your reasoning behind the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all being involved?
THE FATHER (Acts 2:32; 3:15: 4:10)
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


THE SON (John 2:19-22; 10:17,18)
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up... But he spake of the temple of his body... When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.


THE HOLY SPIRIT (1 Pet 3:18; Rom 8:11)
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened [resurrected] by the Spirit:
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken [resurrect] your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
 
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Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead).

Jesus came to do the will of the Father so it would be the Father that raised Him.

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

What do we do with these scriptures when the Bible says there is only one God, the Father, and the Son shall be called the everlasting Father, and if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father.

Is there only one God, the Father.

Father- Creator, parent of the saints.

Son- God's visible relationship to the saints.

Holy Spirit- God's invisible relationship to the saints.

Is that how it is and not a trinity for how do we escape there is one God, the Father.

The Bible only attributes the Father as God, and the Son shall be called the everlasting Father, which the man Christ Jesus is the personal human body of God, and if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father.
 
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But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken [resurrect] your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Isn't this saying if the Spirit of him (the Father) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal modies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you, or that the Father will quicken, I guess maybe improve (or quicken), us by his Spirit?
 

Nehemiah6

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Isn't this saying if the Spirit of him (the Father) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you, or that the Father will quicken, I guess maybe improve, us by his Spirit?
"By His Spirit" points to the Holy Spirit, but 1 Peter 3:18 leaves no doubt.
 

PS

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Could you possibly post the verses and maybe your reasoning behind the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all being involved?
People know there is one God, but I wish they could understand how He can be our Father in heaven, with us in the Spirit, and visible on earth.
 

JaumeJ

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I'm sorry to say jaumej that your statement above is false. Isaiah 9:6 is "NOT" teaching that Jesus Christ is the person of God Father, nor is Jesus Christ the person of the Holy Spirit. What you are believing is what is known as "Modalism." This is what the Oneness Pentecostals teach and it is a heretical theology that the early church fathers debunked.

Here is the definition.
mod·al·ism
/ˈmodlˌizəm/
noun
noun: modalism

  1. 1.
    Theology
    the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature. In other words the one God is "playing" three different roles. The following example will explain it.
    I'm a son to my father, I'm also a father becasue I have children, I'm also a husband because I'm married and yet I am one and the same person.



    It sure sounds good but it is unbiblical. The One God is not acting or playing different roles. Modalism does uphold the deity of Jesus Christ but it does not see Him as a distinct Person from the Father and the Holy Spirit. And because it abandons the diversity of Persons within the Godhead, it loses the important concept that Christ is our representive or advocate with the Father.

    What do I mean? Look at 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." The point of this is to show that if the Son Jesus Christ is God the Father the Son cannot really represent us to the Father. Why? Because in Modalism they are one and the same person."

    So then, what is Isaiah 9:6 teaching? It is teaching that Jesus Christ is the father of eternity, or the orgin of eternity, the "architect" of all that is created. It's akin to George Washington being the father of our country. He was the key figure during the Revolutionay War, the Constitutional Convention, and he served two terms as the FIRST President. That is why he was known as the father of our country.
Btw, John 14 is "NOT" teaching that Jesus is God the Father either. Now, getting back to the
this thread. All three persons of the Trinity raised Jesus Christ from the dead. John 2:19,
"Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple and in three days I WILL RASIE IT UP."
John 2:21, "But He was speaking of the temple of His body."

And at Romans 6:4 we have God the Father rasing Jesus from the dead. Then at Romans 8:11
it says, "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised
Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your motral bodies through His Spirit who
indwells you." Please notice the "distinction" of persons within the Godhead in this one
verse. In short, all three persons raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Any questions I will be
happy to address. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
When our Father speaks to us through His chosen prophets, I do not reference "isms" of any sort, nor do I check out the grammar beyond what is given me to understand, although I did study language and linguistics in college. Perhaps it is too idealisstic and childlike to read with this posture, but it suits e.

WAhen God gave Isaiah to write down that childborn to the Virgen would be called such, I simply believe Him. Please do not apply "ismsw" to others who do not learn of them in the Word. God bless you.
 

Deade

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#31
When our Father speaks to us through His chosen prophets, I do not reference "isms" of any sort, nor do I check out the grammar beyond what is given me to understand, although I did study language and linguistics in college. Perhaps it is too idealisstic and childlike to read with this posture, but it suits e.

WAhen God gave Isaiah to write down that childborn to the Virgen would be called such, I simply believe Him. Please do not apply "ismsw" to others who do not learn of them in the Word. God bless you.
Indeed Jack, whenever man starts to put labels on God; he is heading down the wrong path. A saying goes: You label me, you limit me." It amounts to the finite mind trying to comprehend an infinite God. All our labels fail! :cool:(y)
 

Nehemiah6

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Are you sure there aren't two different meanings of quicken?
You need to do some serious studying.

Strong's Concordance
zóopoieó: to make alive

Original Word: ζῳοποιέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: zóopoieó
Phonetic Spelling: (dzo-op-oy-eh'-o)
Definition: to make alive

Usage: I make that which was dead to live, cause to live, quicken.
 
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You need to do some serious studying.

Strong's Concordance
zóopoieó: to make alive

Original Word: ζῳοποιέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: zóopoieó
Phonetic Spelling: (dzo-op-oy-eh'-o)
Definition: to make alive

Usage: I make that which was dead to live, cause to live, quicken.
Romans 8:10-11 KJV:
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Couldn't this be talking about the Spirit quickening our bodies because they are dead, or helping us live when our bodies are dead, in the context of us living while still here on earth?