Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

It's not necessary to mention adultery, fornication, backbiting, theft, etc because teachings regarding such sins are already part of the New Testament doctrine.

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But thats the point

The law, demands everyone confirm and obey every word.

Thus, although your right, our condemnation is what was nailed (actually our guilt) it is the law the proved our guilt, and as such condemned us (the curse of the law)

Which law? The law of Moses? or The law of the kingdom of God?

Marcelo, I am not perfect but I know the Savior is the way.

Sincerely I want to ask really deeply consider these verses and how do you understand them:

John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 3: 36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."

“does not obey” is word #G544 - apeitheó: to disobey, Original Word: ἀπειθέω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: apeitheó, Phonetic Spelling: (ap-i-theh'-o), Short Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, refuse conformity.

Acts 3:22-23, " 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’

I think it's very easy to understand.

Luke 24:44, "Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

Prophecies were made about the 1st and 2nd coming of Jesus.

Either they are all complete or they are not all complete.

Since He has not yet made His 2nd coming it's very very simple, they are all not yet complete.

Which law? The law of Moses? or The law of the kingdom of God?

I often hear works-salvationists (including Roman Catholics, Mormons, SDA's etc..) quote John 3:36 in the NASB and "stress" the word "obey" to imply that we are saved "by" obedience/works. In regards to "does not obey the Son" in the New American Standard translation of the Bible, this does not mean that receiving eternal life is received based on the merits of our obedience/works which "follow" believing in the Son, but obey by choosing to believe in the Son. If John wanted to make obedience the central theme in salvation here, he would have said: "He who believes and obeys the Son has eternal life," but that is not what John said. To obey the Son here is to choose to believe in the Son.

The King James Version renders this same verse as: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that "believeth not the Son" shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. The NIV says "rejects the Son" and the CSB says, "refuses to believe in the Son." To refuse to believe in the Son is to disobey, rebel, be disloyal and refuse conformity. Strong’s definition of apeitheo is "to disbelieve willfully and perversely." *In the context of 3:36, to "not obey the Son" means to reject the Son by refusing to believe in the Son.

Marcelo said: "Until all is fulfilled" is hard to understand, that's why I follow Paul. He was our apostle and everything he wrote applies to us (the Gentiles). Paul tells us numerous times not to keep the Law of Moses and this is enough for me. Or should I disregard him?

I think it's very easy to understand.

Luke 24:44, "Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

Prophecies were made about the 1st and 2nd coming of Jesus.

Either they are all complete or they are not all complete.

Since He has not yet made His 2nd coming it's very very simple, they are all not yet complete.

See here we go again.

Jesus said to follow the teachings they taught about Moses but not all their other stuff.

You seem to rufuse to accept the entire passage and over simplify it into, He says follow the pharisees. That is not what He actaully said, but I see how if you make it that it's easier to toss out the baby with the bath water.

Marcelo, I am not perfect but I know the Savior is the way.

Sincerely I want to ask really deeply consider these verses and how do you understand them:

John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 3: 36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."

“does not obey” is word #G544 - apeitheó: to disobey, Original Word: ἀπειθέω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: apeitheó, Phonetic Spelling: (ap-i-theh'-o), Short Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, refuse conformity.

Acts 3:22-23, " 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’

No, it's so hard to understand that even Paul "misunderstood" it. The apostle did not "understand" that the Law would last forever and that he was supposed to teach Gentiles to keep all of the Torah.

Which law? The law of Moses? or The law of the kingdom of God?

I often hear works-salvationists (including Roman Catholics, Mormons, SDA's etc..) quote John 3:36 in the NASB and "stress" the word "obey" to imply that we are saved "by" obedience/works. In regards to "does not obey the Son" in the New American Standard translation of the Bible, this does not mean that receiving eternal life is received based on the merits of our obedience/works which "follow" believing in the Son, but obey by choosing to believe in the Son. If John wanted to make obedience the central theme in salvation here, he would have said: "He who believes and obeys the Son has eternal life," but that is not what John said. To obey the Son here is to choose to believe in the Son.

The King James Version renders this same verse as: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that "believeth not the Son" shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. The NIV says "rejects the Son" and the CSB says, "refuses to believe in the Son." To refuse to believe in the Son is to disobey, rebel, be disloyal and refuse conformity. Strong’s definition of apeitheo is "to disbelieve willfully and perversely." *In the context of 3:36, to "not obey the Son" means to reject the Son by refusing to believe in the Son.

No, it's so hard to understand that even Paul "misunderstood" it. The apostle did not "understand" that the Law would last forever and that he was supposed to teach Gentiles to keep all of the Torah.

Paul tries to show you the HOW of following the Saviour.

But you seem to throw that out and try to follow your own understanding of what you THINK Moses says.

That is more a rebellion than what Marcelo is doing. Marcelo has the HOW down. Just the 'why' is a little murky, imo.

The term obey is just a Boble term and a Bible doctrine. The word is used 44 times in the New Testament, it used liberally by Paul.
Obey does not mean choose. Cart before the horse. You choose to obey not the other way around.

Greetings Marcelo,

I don't think anyone is trying to infer what you are saying. You are being sarcastic aren't you?

What so many are missing is that when Man was given The Law the terms were that man would also receive them with the Holy Spirit. This was the case at Sinai, but Israel "stood afar off"

Exo_20:18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
Exo_20:21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

Because of this Israel received The "Letter" of The Law. As Scripture History records is was almost impossible for Israel to "Keep The Commandments" without the Holy Spirit.

Today, after receiving the redemption through the Cross and Baptism with water, man may receive the Holy Spirit through which he receives what God had always intended for His "elect"; Sanctification which yields a man desirous of "holiness" and "good works" through obedience to the Law.

Those who skip this part of the process have failed to take advantage of the Grace of God which brings a man to the fullness of Christ!

To hear so many who repeatedly desire to fight the work of the Holy Spirit to bring them into a "Love" relationship with the Laws of God is to observe an "sanding afar off" or unintended frustration of the plan of redemption.

I say "enter in" desire to be filled with the Holy Spirit which will bring you to desire all good things, including the Law.

SG

This is a false point. The new testament was not yet formed at this time, and you are saying only these 5 things...but also some more.

They would learn more because "Moses is read every Sabbath"

Greetings Marcelo,

I don't think anyone is trying to infer what you are saying. You are being sarcastic aren't you?

What so many are missing is that when Man was given The Law the terms were that man would also receive them with the Holy Spirit. This was the case at Sinai, but Israel "stood afar off"

Exo_20:18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
Exo_20:21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

Because of this Israel received The "Letter" of The Law. As Scripture History records is was almost impossible for Israel to "Keep The Commandments" without the Holy Spirit.

Today, after receiving the redemption through the Cross and Baptism with water, man may receive the Holy Spirit through which he receives what God had always intended for His "elect"; Sanctification which yields a man desirous of "holiness" and "good works" through obedience to the Law.

Those who skip this part of the process have failed to take advantage of the Grace of God which brings a man to the fullness of Christ!

To hear so many who repeatedly desire to fight the work of the Holy Spirit to bring them into a "Love" relationship with the Laws of God is to observe an "sanding afar off" or unintended frustration of the plan of redemption.

I say "enter in" desire to be filled with the Holy Spirit which will bring you to desire all good things, including the Law.

SG