Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Well the "teacher" never said to throw the textbook out, jsut the oppisite:

until heaven and earth pass away,

until all is accomplished.

But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.

I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,

those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus

Matthew 5:17-20, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 16:16-17, " 16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. 17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.

Hebrews 10:15-17, " 15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”

Revelation 14:12-13, " 12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”
Please do not be like the others here and declair i am trying to throw the law out i am not, So this line of reasoning is useless, it is not arguing against what i believe. I agree, the law will be valid until this world is destroyed.



So if the curse is removed why still call the law death? To the believe it is love, with the curse of death removed.... Yet so many people still cry the law be death and curses...

The law also offers blessings, it is SIN that causes curses.
No the law offers the curse (death)

The law of love offers blessings, because when we do not break commands, we are blessed



And you can go through my posts and what I post on more than anything is simply Jesus is our example in His words and His deeds, and follow Him is what matters.

I feel like people say follow Him, but they ignore His teachings and that has becomethe or a main stream doctrine, not by saying/teaching it but by doing it.
Jesus is our example

He put the needs of everyone above his own, theough love, THUS he never broke the law

That is our example
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
the flesh is against His law, the spirit guides us to walk in it and love it. Hearts and minds will be in the law the word says
Yes, but those trying to obey the law through working at it, are in the flesh

I worry anout putting the needs of others above my own needs, when i do this, i do not break the law. But it is not working at the law
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
If you are studying the 10 commandments and you decide "hey I should start taking saturdays off" or you are reading the Old Testament and you think "man, I should stop eating bacon" then you are working at the law.

The schoolmaster doesn't show you what is good. It only shows you your sin.

If you knew what was good to God you would have already been to Christ and received Rest from your work at the Law.


You would have started to be His Workmanship and you would have realized that He can Perfect you in ways that you could never perfect yourself by your "understanding" and "strength" at the law.
So if one reads "do not steal" and says I should not steal they are "working"

Isaiah 5: 20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

No Jesus gave rest from sin, not rest from righteousness

Matthew 11:27-30, " 27 “All have been handed over to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and he to whom the Son wishes to reveal Him. 28 "Come to Me, all you who labour and are burdened, and I shall give you rest. 29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am meek and humble in heart, and you shall find rest for your beings. 30 “For My yoke is gentle and My burden is light.”

John 8:34-36, " 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. 35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

That is free from sin... not free from righteousness.

Jeremiah 6:15-16, " 15 Were they ashamed when they committed abomination? No, they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; at the time that I punish them, they shall be overthrown,” says the LORD. 16 Thus says the LORD: “Stand by the roads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way is; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
What's "flesh is flesh!"
What's "Spirit, is Spirit!"
Amen to that!

John 3: 5. Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! 6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.' 8. The wind blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going.

So is everyone who is born of the Spirit!"
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
Please do not be like the others here and declair i am trying to throw the law out i am not, So this line of reasoning is useless, it is not arguing against what i believe. I agree, the law will be valid until this world is destroyed.
Yes, you did not say it leads us to Christ then we toss it out. I did post that becsue many people use that verses to say the law is gone and not to be followed. Again I have to say the law is to be followed using Jesus example, His walk, His way, His love, that is the true way to do obedience to God. Where the pharisees were the example of what NOT to do!
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
Yes, but those trying to obey the law through working at it, are in the flesh

I worry anout putting the needs of others above my own needs, when i do this, i do not break the law. But it is not working at the law
I don;t think anyone tries to "obey the law through the flesh"

The "flesh" is in oppisition to the law, Jer, Ez and Heb say the spirit makes people have the law in their heart and mind. So anyone who truly loves (heart) and meditates on (mind) wouls be led by the spirit. Key word there TRULY, im not talking about people trying to loop hole out of it or twist it, that is the flesh.

Are you of the view that reading the law and reading how Jesus followed the law and thinking wow I want to do that! is "the flesh" Or what is your view?
 

Hevosmies

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2018
3,612
2,632
113
Yes, you did not say it leads us to Christ then we toss it out. I did post that becsue many people use that verses to say the law is gone and not to be followed. Again I have to say the law is to be followed using Jesus example, His walk, His way, His love, that is the true way to do obedience to God. Where the pharisees were the example of what NOT to do!
Which laws of the Torah do you follow? Are you talking about the 10 commandments? Or are you talking about the animal sacrifices, circumcision, holy convocations, wearing fringes, not letting a razor touch the corners of your head etc.

WHICH ONES we talking about here? If we aint talking about the latter, WHEN did they become null and void them regulations?
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
Which laws of the Torah do you follow? Are you talking about the 10 commandments? Or are you talking about the animal sacrifices, circumcision, holy convocations, wearing fringes, not letting a razor touch the corners of your head etc.

WHICH ONES we talking about here? If we aint talking about the latter, WHEN did they become null and void them regulations?
I show why I believe none of the law is gone in the word and use my words to highlight points.

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Not all has been fulfilled, the 2nd coming of Jesus remains:

Luke 24:44-45, " 44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,

another requirement, heaven and earth has not yet passed.

sacrifice is complete so acceting Jesus work is the only sacrifice needed (plese take notice and dont ignore this part I just said);

Hebrews 10:12-14, " 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

fulfilled:
12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,

not YET fulfilled:
13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
Amen to that!

John 3: 5. Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! 6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.' 8. The wind blows where it wants to, and you hear its sound, but don't know where it comes from and where it is going.

So is everyone who is born of the Spirit!"
That is so! Then, why is it you use only flesh eyes, when viewing that which is Spirit, goes places, and does things in, and to one's "Spiritual body", making it manifest itself in, and through one's own flesh body and actions, and behavior, where "flesh and blood" cannot go, or see?
(hint) It's called "overcoming."
Revelation 2
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

 

Hevosmies

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2018
3,612
2,632
113
I show why I believe none of the law is gone in the word and use my words to highlight points.

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Not all has been fulfilled, the 2nd coming of Jesus remains:

Luke 24:44-45, " 44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,

another requirement, heaven and earth has not yet passed.

sacrifice is complete so acceting Jesus work is the only sacrifice needed (plese take notice and dont ignore this part I just said);

Hebrews 10:12-14, " 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

fulfilled:
12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,

not YET fulfilled:
13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.
So are the fringes on clothing, not letting a razor touch the corners of your head and circumcision still for today's christians?

Thats a red flag a couple of verses from Acts 15 and Galatians comes to mind!
 

Grandpa

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2011
11,551
3,188
113
So if one reads "do not steal" and says I should not steal they are "working"
Yes, Of course, they are working at the law. That is how working at the law works.

You read it. Then you try to do it, by your own strength and your own understanding.

Isaiah 5: 20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

No Jesus gave rest from sin, not rest from righteousness
No one said the law was not good. You are making this up in your head to JUSTIFY your work at the law.


The Lord Jesus gives us Rest from our WORK at the law.

Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.


31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.


32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;


This is what happens when People don't come to Christ and receive Rest. They try to work at their own Righteousness and turn their backs on REAL RIGHTEOUSNESS.


Romans 10:3-4
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
 

Grandpa

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2011
11,551
3,188
113
Read the whole chapter.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

We are not gentiles. If we are part of the family of God we are spiritual Jews.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Are these laws that are put int the mind and written in the heart DEATH and CONDEMNATION?

Or are they RIGHTEOUSNESS and LIFE?

2 Corinthians 3:7-9
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:


8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?


9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
So are the fringes on clothing, not letting a razor touch the corners of your head and circumcision still for today's christians?

Thats a red flag a couple of verses from Acts 15 and Galatians comes to mind!
Or you misunderstand those passages you named.

Acts 15 is about new converts "the Gentiles who turn to God" they will learn more because "Moses is read every Sabbath in the synagogues":

Acts 15:19-21, " 19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20 but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. 21 For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

and about circumcisim, the word does not say it bad, Acts says :

Acts 15: 1 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.

We knoe Jesus can saved those lost, however they do not stay lost, there is a heart change, a circumcision of the heart.

Deuteronomy 10:16, “And you shall circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and harden your neck no more.”

Also you are questioning me, but you did not respond or give your view one bit of what I posted, does this mean you are seeking to pursude me or accuse me?

So I have 2 questions.

1. Wat is your interpretation on my last post to you?

2. Do you believe the part of Acts 15 that says: Acts 15:19-, "...abstain from the things/meat polluted by idols” or is that done away, non binding or still binding to the new covenant christian?
 

Hevosmies

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2018
3,612
2,632
113
Or you misunderstand those passages you named.

Acts 15 is about new converts "the Gentiles who turn to God" they will learn more because "Moses is read every Sabbath in the synagogues":

Acts 15:19-21, " 19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20 but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. 21 For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

and about circumcisim, the word does not say it bad, Acts says :

Acts 15: 1 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.

We knoe Jesus can saved those lost, however they do not stay lost, there is a heart change, a circumcision of the heart.

Deuteronomy 10:16, “And you shall circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and harden your neck no more.”

Also you are questioning me, but you did not respond or give your view one bit of what I posted, does this mean you are seeking to pursude me or accuse me?

So I have 2 questions.

1. Wat is your interpretation on my last post to you?

2. Do you believe the part of Acts 15 that says: Acts 15:19-, "...abstain from the things/meat polluted by idols” or is that done away, non binding or still binding to the new covenant christian?
I wont answer anything, the Bible is already clear: NO MAN will be justified by the works of the law, CIRCUMCISION is nothing and UNCIRCUMCISION is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God! If someone is CALLED uncircumcised LET HIM REMAIN SO, says the Apostle Paul

Im done with you son

Just as I thought, just had to make sure.

Another judaizer preaching works for salvation, IKEA do-it-yourself salvation from a NIKE ad.

Let me guess. "Oh no, works dont save us, keeping Torah and getting circumcised wont save us, its by grace through faith!" "but... if you dont keep torah after you're saved well, can you be saved in disobedience i mean.. you know???"

DOUBLE TALK! Thats usually how they spin it!

I like your profile:
"When saved When I meet the one and only Shepherd in the air "

Ya dont evne know if you're saved yet, GREAT DOCTRINE. Why should we listen to you?
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
That is so! Then, why is it you use only flesh eyes, when viewing that which is Spirit, goes places, and does things in, and to one's "Spiritual body", making it manifest itself in, and through one's own flesh body and actions, and behavior, where "flesh and blood" cannot go, or see?
(hint) It's called "overcoming."
Revelation 2
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
I am not using flesh eyes anymore than Paul was using flesh eyes here
Acts 16: 3. Paul wanted to have him go out with him, and he took and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those parts; for they all knew that his father was a Greek.

Or James was using flesh eyes here when he counsels Paul to pay the expenses of some men who have taken a vow.

Acts 21: 24. Take them, and purify yourself with them, and pay their expenses for them, that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is no truth in the things that they have been informed about you, but that you yourself also walk keeping the law.
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
Romans 10:3-4
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
I think your bible is broken: "telos" is the goal/purpose not the abolishment.

Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end (telos) of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Romans 10:4, "For Jesus is the ultimate result (telos) of the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes."

1Peter 1:9, "Receiving the end (telos) of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."

1 Peter 1:9, "Receiving the ultimate result (telos) of your faith – the salvation of your souls."

Greek Dictionary (Lexicon-Concordance) - #G5056 telos {tel'-os} from a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal)

HELPS Word-studies – 5056 télos (a neuter noun) – properly, consummation (the end-goal, purpose), such as closure with all its results.

I dont expect you to accept this, but "their righteousness" is the man made laws of judaisim. NON Biblical laws.

Matthew 15:1-3, " 1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” 3 He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?

Finally God must be writing things on the heart that is abolished huh?

Hebrews 10:16-17, " 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
I wont answer anything, the Bible is already clear: NO MAN will be justified by the works of the law, CIRCUMCISION is nothing and UNCIRCUMCISION is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God! If someone is CALLED uncircumcised LET HIM REMAIN SO, says the Apostle Paul

Im done with you son

Just as I thought, just had to make sure.

Another judaizer preaching works for salvation, IKEA do-it-yourself salvation from a NIKE ad.

Let me guess. "Oh no, works dont save us, keeping Torah and getting circumcised wont save us, its by grace through faith!" "but... if you dont keep torah after you're saved well, can you be saved in disobedience i mean.. you know???"

DOUBLE TALK! Thats usually how they spin it!

I like your profile:
"When saved When I meet the one and only Shepherd in the air "

Ya dont evne know if you're saved yet, GREAT DOCTRINE. Why should we listen to you?
WOW, you slander so willingly.

Leviticus 19:16 , “You shall not go about tale-bearing or slandering among your people.”

Proverbs 10:18, “He who hides hatred has lying lips, And he who sends out a slander is a fool.”

1 John 5:2-3, " 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome."

Rev 12: 17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
I like your profile: "When saved When I meet the one and only Shepherd in the air " Ya dont evne know if you're saved yet, GREAT DOCTRINE. Why should we listen to you?
Jesus says:

Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”

Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”

Hebrews 10:36-38, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised. 37 For yet a little while – He who is coming shall come and shall not delay. 38 But the righteous shall live by belief, but if anyone draws back, my being has no pleasure in him.”

Hebrews 9:27-28, “And as it awaits men to die once, and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to those waiting for Him, unto salvation.”

Luke 21:28, “Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
 

Hevosmies

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2018
3,612
2,632
113
Jesus says:

Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”

Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”

Hebrews 10:36-38, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised. 37 For yet a little while – He who is coming shall come and shall not delay. 38 But the righteous shall live by belief, but if anyone draws back, my being has no pleasure in him.”

Hebrews 9:27-28, “And as it awaits men to die once, and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to those waiting for Him, unto salvation.”

Luke 21:28, “Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
You do know that most of these verses are talking about the end times? Thats the context of one who endures to the end will be saved. Redemption drawing near meaning the receiving of our resurrection bodies

Mamma mia!
 

FollowtheShepherd

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
794
312
63
James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."

Hebrews 9:27-28, “And as it awaits men to die once, and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to those waiting for Him, unto salvation.”

For those that will not accept Jesus words:

Romans 13:11-12, “And do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for us to wake up from sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than when we did believe. The night is far advanced, the day has come near. So let us put off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.”

Romans 13:11

New International Version
And do this, understanding the present time: The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.

New Living Translation
This is all the more urgent, for you know how late it is; time is running out. Wake up, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.

English Standard Version
Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed.

Berean Study Bible
And do this, understanding the occasion. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.

Berean Literal Bible
And do this knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken out of sleep; for our salvation is nearer now than when first we believed.

New American Standard Bible
Do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now salvation is nearer to us than when we believed.

Jesus says:


Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”

Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”

Luke 21:28, “Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”