Not By Works

Romans 12 teaches a transformational process.....that requires a period of growth, study and renewal of the mind....it is not instantly given.....NOW salvation, justification, being sanctified positionally and sealed ARE......but the OUTWARD man must be changed by growth and maturity which is described as an ongoing process of growth and maturity.....it is subject to successes and or failures and is tied directly to Romans 12:1-2.......as the man is changed inwardly by growth and maturity based upon a study of the word and application of the word they begin to change OUTWARDLY........for some this can be an accelerated process based upon the level of teaching they get and how they apply the word of GOD....for some it may be a very slow process if they are fed milk nonstop and never really apply what they learn.....This process is NOT hard to grasp and LIKE JESUS and others which constantly referenced creation which speaks loud and clear this can be seen easily.......

Take for instance my tame black berry plants.......I have about 20 planted......the ones that got more fertilizer, water etc. and were in better soil grew vines frmo 8 to 10 feet long this summer........the ones which had less fertilizer, water and were in soil a little harder and drier only put off about three foot vines.........

DAY unto DAY and NIGHT unto NIGHT sets forth KNOWLEDGE unless one is to challenged in an ocular manner to SEE..............

10 to 1 the ten foot vines bear more fruit than the three foot vines......NEXT YEAR

At one point you're saying that sin has been put to death at the cross.
Then you say the greater the transformation, the LESS we sin.

We STILL SIN, sin HAS NOT been put to death. Your interpretation is WRONG, it's a contradictory statement.
That which is born of God DOES NOT SIN.... The mind isn't a battle ground, there is no battle in that which IS BORN OF GOD.

Why not try figure out what part of you is born again by the INCORRUPTIBLE words of God. That's where those verses get reconciled.

And those that believe are justified, regenerated, (made new), adopted, sanctified, kept by the power of God, made to be overcomers, preserved to the end, conformed to the image of His Son, and glorified. All by GRACE through FAITH

That’s the WHOLE storey🙂. That’s the Gospel. Not the watered down version you guys peddle.

I preach nothing different. I just don’t use fancy words while patting myself on the back.

Ask DC what the primary function of verb tenses in Koine greek is. I want to see what he says.

You do not save yourself by believing. God saves you from first to last

I didn't pat myself on the back.

And you don't use words at all. I asked you to deal with texts numerous times, and you could not do so.

All you do is insult. I have never read you once actually deal with a text of scripture.

I couldn’t care less about texts. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. I embrace the simplicity of Jesus Christ where as you enjoy self proclamations.

I didn't pat myself on the back, but this is what you act like every time you reply to me.

You don't care about BIBLICAL texts?!!! Because that's what I was talking about, Maestro

...here as you enjoy self proclamations.

I didn't pat myself on the back.

And you don't use words at all. I asked you to deal with texts numerous times, and you could not do so.

All you do is insult. I have never read you once actually deal with a text of scripture.

Show DC’s post where he says we save ourselves. Put up or shut up.

He said saved by faith plus nothing. SO our faith saves us and nothing else?

There’s nothing to deal with; Jesus states that whoever believes in him has salvation. But that’s not good enough for you, you want to dissect everything and take away the simplicity of Jesus.

I believe that whoever believes in Jesus is saved. My six year old grandson believes that. When are you going to stop sucking on milk and move on to maturity by accepting other Biblical truths.

What do you do as a minister? Preach the same message to your sheep every service. You just teach "get saved", "get saved", "get saved" and nothing about growing or the blessings of salvation?

Context, son, context. Talk about not dealing with words properly.

Well, some would say these verses are prescriptive and others would say they are descriptive.