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Dec 27, 2018
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Hi Mac , just a question...
Without faith , no one can please God...

Gods grace falls on everyone ( Believers and unbelievers )
but those with faith ( believers ) are the ones who are saved...
...xox...
Grace falls on all... but saving grace only on those who believe🙂
 

Rosemaryx

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But what happens before and after you believe? Does God exercise influence and power to draw you to Jesus before you believe? And Is there a supernatural work wrought in us by the power of God after we believe, a work called regeneration and renewing in the Holy Spirit?

Or is it just believe and no powerful work of Gods grace that regenerated, renews, makes us a new creation?
Before we believe , we are denying Him
Yes , God is the one who draws us , but He does not draw all
Faith is a gift from God , we believe , we are saved
It is all God , from the beginning to the end , the Holy Spirit changes us , through our faith , but yes I see how it still comes round to Gods grace , through faith , it still comes back to faith also , can the two be seperated ?
...xox...
 
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What percentage of your faith supplied the power and Divine energy towards regeneration? And what percentage was God’s power?
I was an ATHEIST not looking for God, not believing in God, NOT LOOKING FOR GOD when I got saved. I had ZERO percent faith.
 

Lightskin

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You better get ready. I’m ready.

I don’t go around showing my depravity by accusing strangers of being sexually frustrated. Were you projecting? Probably
Don’t worry about me, Norman, I’m good; my defense lawyer is Jesus Christ, he’s got me covered.
 

Lightskin

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You better get ready too, because you said several things that were contemptible, base, and thoroughly unchristlike. I attack people’s arguments. You attack people’s person. Because you have no argument.
You’re guilty of not loving your neighbor. Fact!
 
Dec 27, 2018
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Before we believe , we are denying Him
Yes , God is the one who draws us , but He does not draw all
Faith is a gift from God , we believe , we are saved
It is all God , from the beginning to the end , the Holy Spirit changes us , through our faith , but yes I see how it still comes round to Gods grace , through faith , it still comes back to faith also , can the two be seperated ?
...xox...
What do you mean God doesn’t draw all?

And no, saving faith and saving grace cannot be seperated
 
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Macabeus, post: 4037399, member: 279100"]Grace is unmerited favor

God sending His son to die for us...unmerited favor

God exerting holy influence to bring us to Christ... unmerited favor

God giving us the gift of faith...unmerited favor

God regenerating us...unmerited favor

God justifying us...unmerited favor

God adopting us, God keeping us, God using us in His Kingdom work, God eventually completing the work in glorification

The fact that we’re still breathing

ALL UNMERITED FAVOR. 🙂

Repost.
 
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Don’t worry about me, Norman, I’m good; my defense lawyer is Jesus Christ, he’s got me covered.
He’s mine too. But you and I still will approach the Bema. Not to determine salvation, but to give an account. I think all of us, myself included, don’t act like we know that

So I apologize for any inappropriate thing I said to everyone right now. But I do not apologize for the truth

Salvation is of the LORD. ALL OF GRACE

Even our faith is of grace.

God giving us the gift of faith is grace.

We have nothing that we did not receive from Him