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VCO

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Be sure to say grace before you eat your hamburger with the works!

Colossians 3:15 (NJB)
15 And may the peace of Christ reign in your hearts, because it is for this that you were called together in one body. Always be thankful.

I even thank HIM for the COFFEE each morning.
 
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I already answered your pigeonhole question, Norman.
What does Ephesians 2:4-7 say that God did? God did it. God does it to all who believe.

But faith does not mean that we regenerated ourselves. We were born of God

You need to do a study on regeneration/new birth/ spiritual resurrection

I agree with saved by grace through faith without works. I do not agree with a salvation that excludes Gods regenerating, powerful grace

I think this is the crux of the disagreement between myself and others. It has been confirmed by some of the replies, including yours

Regeneration/ new birth/ spiritual resurrection is an important doctrine that is not taught as it should be taught in our age and culture
 

Lightskin

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So I apologize for any inappropriate thing I said to everyone right now. But I do not apologize for the truth
If I cared what you thought of me I’d accept your apology, but since I don’t care what you think of me there’s no need either way. Besides, you’re only sorry until the next time you attack. That’s called an abusive relationship, Norman.
 
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I say look it up in the Good Book.

What is it that you are after Macabeus?

Is it....... I am right, you are wrong?

Thankfully God cured me of that a while ago.

I only want to be right/in truth, because I firmly believe falsehood places one in bondage?
 
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If I cared what you thought of me I’d accept your apology, but since I don’t care what you think of me there’s no need either way. Besides, you’re only sorry until the next time you attack. That’s called an abusive relationship, Norman.
I wasn’t just apologizing to you. I was apologizing to everyone. If you don’t want to obey Jesus on forgiveness, that’s on you, Bubba
 
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I say look it up in the Good Book.

What is it that you are after Macabeus?

Is it....... I am right you are wrong?

Thankfully God cured me of that a while ago.

I only want to be right/in truth, because I firmly believe everything else is bondage?
No it’s not about being right. This is a CRITICAL matter. If you don’t want to answer,it’s ok. Just consider the question
 
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If I cared what you thought of me I’d accept your apology, but since I don’t care what you think of me there’s no need either way. Besides, you’re only sorry until the next time you attack. That’s called an abusive relationship, Norman.
Yes, it always comes down to trust.
 

Lightskin

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I wasn’t just apologizing to you. I was apologizing to everyone. If you don’t want to obey Jesus on forgiveness, that’s on you, Bubba
See there’s proof right there that you read one thing and receive something entirely different. I said there’s no need to forgive you because I don’t care what you think of me. In other words you were never in the wrong with me, thus I do not need to forgive you because there’s no need for you to be forgiven by me.
 
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This is often a life or death issue. Because some people believed in a series of propositions and call that faith, , but were never regenerated. I’m not saying you, but maybe the people who hear you? Because it appears, I could be wrong, that some of you are teaching decisional regeneration. Decisional regeneration is the belief that a mere decision alone saves you, leaving out the work of regeneration, that God performs
 
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This is often a life or death issue. Because some people believed in a series of propositions and call that faith, , but were never regenerated. I’m not saying you, but maybe the people who hear you? Because it appears, I could be wrong, that some of you are teaching decisional regeneration. Decisional regeneration is the belief that a mere decision alone saves you, leaving out the work of regeneration, that God performs
Please change your signature Mac, that's childish and rude!
 
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This is often a life or death issue. Because some people believed in a series of propositions and call that faith, , but were never regenerated. I’m not saying you, but maybe the people who hear you? Because it appears, I could be wrong, that some of you are teaching decisional regeneration. Decisional regeneration is the belief that a mere decision alone saves you, leaving out the work of regeneration, that God performs
Sorry ....."decisional regeneration"

another accusatory terms of the warring camps and not really worth any discussion.