Creation and the Gap theory (pre adamic race)

The song by Jethro Tull, I think it was on the Aqualung album. I just think of that song when I don't get the references sometimes.




Yes, He was looking upon the earth that He had created to be inhabited sitting null and void in the darkness He had caused to come upon it when He destroyed it at the end of the first earth age, the time when Satan drew 1/3 of His children away from Him and it perished and there was not a man left, and the Heavens were made black. You know, in

Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.

Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.

Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?

Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

Jeremiah 4:29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.



Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

sorry

I am not really understanding what you say here in regards to your reply to my post

Thats a good fictional story, i wonder you havent shown when is the beginning, is it within the first day?

Well? It "confirms" the point that God, in an "age", before this one. Same "planet" different "age", totally destroyed EVERYTHING from off the face of the earth! No Noah! No ark! No animals two by two! No Nuttin'!
Because of "disbelief" in Him!
Noah's flood, as is generally referred to? Same response to the same problem/s!
He merely divorced Israel, for the same reason/s!
The warning given in Romans to believers in Christ?
Is the same as it is to Israel! (Goodness and Severity)
Disbelief, Lawlessness, Godlessness, Rebellion aka "attempted" overthrow?
Although, many millennia has passed since the first earth age?
God's SONG? REMAINS THE SAME!
"Though Heaven and earth (ages) MAY pass away?"
"My WORDS shall NEVER pass away!"

Is not fictional. Not at all! Of course, that's what "precepts of men", teaches ones to believe. But, it is just that! Precepts of men!
The "beginning" is when God created the heaven and the earth. Long before verse 3.
Psalm 90
2 BEFORE the mountains were brought forth, or EVER THOU HAST FORMED THE EARTH and the world(ages), even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. (age to age)
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Is not fictional. Not at all! Of course, that's what "precepts of men", teaches ones to believe. But, it is just that! Precepts of men!
The "beginning" is when God created the heaven and the earth. Long before verse 3.
Psalm 90
2 BEFORE the mountains were brought forth, or EVER THOU HAST FORMED THE EARTH and the world(ages), even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. (age to age)
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Your belief in the 7th day rest is absurd...god rested then stop resting for a while then working again....
Not biblical.
They have to re write the whole bible to modify the sabbath.... which means you can rest for a bit on sabbath then work again...are you seeing this???

Genesis 2:2
And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.

--- I believe we are still in the seventh day on which God initially rested, but soon thereafter He had to stop his rest in order to set in motion his plan to save mankind from their sins. ---

John 5:15-17
The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him. And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath (seventh day). But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I am working."

---Jesus working on the Sabbath to heal the sick shows us that God has been working on his seventh day of rest to heal man from his sins.---

There was also a sabbath year for the land, to rest every seventh year. So Sabbath is not confined to a day.

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So when is the eighth day? The eighth day is when all things are created new.
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Ephesians 1:11-14
In him, according to the purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will, we who first hoped in Christ have been destined and appointed to live for the praise of his glory. In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17
From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

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The 2 Corinthians verses might sound like it is saying that today we are new creations. But it means that we should regard ourselves as new creations. We regard ourselves no longer slaves to the flesh even though we are still in the flesh.

Ephesians 1:11-14 sheds more light on this. That we have been marked for salvation and have received the guarantee of our inheritance, but we have not yet received our inheritance. We receive our inheritance on the 8th day, when all things are created new.

This is how I see it currently.
God created on the first six days, rested or ceased from creating on the seventh day, and will begin creating again on the eighth day. How long are any of these days? We do not know from scripture.

Revelation 21:1-5
21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.”

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We are created new on the eighth day, when God makes all things new.

Jews were circumcised on the 8th day as a symbol of what was to come on the eighth day. They were not created new on the eighth 24h day of their lives. The circumcision was merely a symbol pointing to the future eighth day when they will be created new.

The beginning refers to the physical universe and time. Before that there was a timeless eternal family we call God. Creation in all its forms is a physical manifestation of reality which is spiritual and what the Bible calls the Kingdom of heaven. The whole plan of God revealed in the Bible is to bring humanity into Sonship, into Gods family.

Yeah...but they didnt stop in the middle of the year and started planting.

Created on the 8th day...this is a heresay..
Circumcision a symbol for the future 8th day...again a heresay...just be biblical...its abrahamic covenant.

They often didn't honor the sabbath year.

Jesus died on a friday afternoon and was raised to life on a Sunday morning.
This is not a full 72 hours (three 24 hour days). It is however covers a span of three days. And yet Matthew 12:40 suggests otherwise indicating that Jesus was to be dead for exactly 72 hours.

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Can you explain this seeming discrepancy?

Is the beginning in gen 1:1 included in the first day?

They often didn't honor the sabbath year.

Jesus died on a friday afternoon and was raised to life on a Sunday morning.
This is not a full 72 hours (three 24 hour days). It is however covers a span of three days. And yet Matthew 12:40 suggests otherwise indicating that Jesus was to be dead for exactly 72 hours.

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Can you explain this seeming discrepancy?

Well then teach me, what was the significance of circumcision being on the 8th day?
Isn't Jesus the offspring of Abraham [Gal 3:16-17]? Isn't then the promise of the abrahamic covenant still valid to however is in Christ?

First off the Jewish day ran from sun down to sun up. Not midnight to midnight.

Secondly, any part of a day is still considered a day..

Some scholars believe Jesus was crucified on Thursday not Friday.

No. The beginning was the point when the body of invisible light emerged from the eternal light to form the finite expanse of space of this physical world.



Why a beginning?

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; John 5:26

How it began?

As was said, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

So by looking at what the Son did when he made man on earth, this reflects what the Eternal One did in the beginning when he brought forth his only begotten.

But I digress, so I will conclude with 2 John 9 by avering to "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well:" it doesn't say you are right, but that your are doing better than those without a God. Yet before you think you got it right consider the rest of the verse. "the devils also believe, and tremble." Point being, whether you believe in one or three, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son."