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stillness

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Walk trough the valley
Yes, we are all sinners SAVED BY GRACE. Anyone who says he does not sin, IS LYING.

Some that are more Mature than others sin LESS, but we are all sinners.

I can prove that he or she is a sinner with one portion of Scripture:


1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. [.If you are an American, that would be President Donald Trump.]


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You are SINNING, if you are 1 mph over the posted Speed Limit.

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You are SINNING IF YOU PARK LIKE THIS ONE INCH OVER THE LINE, OR HAVE ANOTHER PARKING VIOLATATION.


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You are SINNING IF YOU FAIL to clean up after your dog poops.


There are many other Ordinances from the City, County, and State, should I list them all ? ? ?
In case you feel like i have not answered the sin isue. We are judged with the judgment we judge others with, and if a car causes us to sin we should get rid of it. You sound like a good driver, are you aware that good drivers are prone to road rage because they expect other drivers to be as good as they are. While a bad drivers has no trouble being cut off: acknowleging someone who drives like me does not cause me to sin; but neither do I drive anymore, neither do I have a weak conscience in that area, and dont see why you should be so hard on yourself and expect the same from others." We are caled to follow Jesus who is the fulfilment of the law; not to follow the law but to enter into Life, "Love is the fulfilment of the law." "The merciful shall obtain mercy." "Who will bring any acusation against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies." "These are called, chosen and faithful." "They overcame by the blood of the Lamb, by testifying to the Word of God, and they loved not their lives to shrink from death." Those who Love the Trurh more than their onw lives can respond to quarels like Paul. "You have not hindered me at all, I protest by the Grace of God I die daily." Jesus made a Way where there was no way. Grace enables us to Love the Truth. A while ago the Lord told me: What you dont realise is that the battle is won already, its not as simple as you getting the power, you must Love the Truth. I'm shure this also translates: Its not as simple as you getting the Grace you must Love Jesus, because Grace and Truth came by Him. "The mesage of the cross is the power of God to everyone who believes." = To everyone who Loves the Truth. How good are you at algebra. I only understood the rule of 3 laiter in colege lol.
 

stillness

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Jan 28, 2013
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Walk trough the valley
Yes, we are all sinners SAVED BY GRACE. Anyone who says he does not sin, IS LYING.

Some that are more Mature than others sin LESS, but we are all sinners.

I can prove that he or she is a sinner with one portion of Scripture:


1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. [.If you are an American, that would be President Donald Trump.]


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You are SINNING, if you are 1 mph over the posted Speed Limit.

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You are SINNING IF YOU PARK LIKE THIS ONE INCH OVER THE LINE, OR HAVE ANOTHER PARKING VIOLATATION.


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You are SINNING IF YOU FAIL to clean up after your dog poops.


There are many other Ordinances from the City, County, and State, should I list them all ? ? ?
"Bear with me a little in my foly," If your self righteousness causes you to be ofended at others, cut it off and trow it away, it would be better for you to enter into life as an outlaw saves by Grace, than to know the diferance between folishness and righteousness and be ofended at your neibour and be trown into hell.
Jonah 4:11 "And should I not have compashion for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and also many animals?”
You are aware that we are saved by Grace through Faith, that enables us to Love our enemies; but I admit that I strugle with those who should know better as well: those who have confused language because they are unable to Love. Admiting is half the battle, then praying and forgiving one another.
 
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One of the 60% or one of the 30%, still a CHRISTIAN, Less Crowns is all.
They cannot grasp the truth that nothing we do adds to or subtracts from the eternal salvation we are given freely in Christ due to grace and based upon simple faith......not only is their devaluation of Christ disgusting, it is sickening, contrary to the scriptures and a false gospel that does not save and leads to the pit!
 
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For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:
 
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For I, through the law, am dead to the law, that I may live to God: with Christ I am nailed to the cross.
 

VCO

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In case you feel like i have not answered the sin isue. We are judged with the judgment we judge others with, and if a car causes us to sin we should get rid of it. You sound like a good driver, are you aware that good drivers are prone to road rage because they expect other drivers to be as good as they are. While a bad drivers has no trouble being cut off: acknowleging someone who drives like me does not cause me to sin; but neither do I drive anymore, neither do I have a weak conscience in that area, and dont see why you should be so hard on yourself and expect the same from others." We are caled to follow Jesus who is the fulfilment of the law; not to follow the law but to enter into Life, "Love is the fulfilment of the law." "The merciful shall obtain mercy." "Who will bring any acusation against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies." "These are called, chosen and faithful." "They overcame by the blood of the Lamb, by testifying to the Word of God, and they loved not their lives to shrink from death." Those who Love the Trurh more than their onw lives can respond to quarels like Paul. "You have not hindered me at all, I protest by the Grace of God I die daily." Jesus made a Way where there was no way. Grace enables us to Love the Truth. A while ago the Lord told me: What you dont realise is that the battle is won already, its not as simple as you getting the power, you must Love the Truth. I'm shure this also translates: Its not as simple as you getting the Grace you must Love Jesus, because Grace and Truth came by Him. "The mesage of the cross is the power of God to everyone who believes." = To everyone who Loves the Truth. How good are you at algebra. I only understood the rule of 3 laiter in colege lol.

You would have made an excellent Democratic Politician, you have the ability to talk around and issue without answering the GUESTION, down pat.
 

VCO

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"Bear with me a little in my foly," If your self righteousness causes you to be ofended at others, cut it off and trow it away, it would be better for you to enter into life as an outlaw saves by Grace, than to know the diferance between folishness and righteousness and be ofended at your neibour and be trown into hell.
Jonah 4:11 "And should I not have compashion for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and also many animals?”
You are aware that we are saved by Grace through Faith, that enables us to Love our enemies; but I admit that I strugle with those who should know better as well: those who have confused language because they are unable to Love. Admiting is half the battle, then praying and forgiving one another.


Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.
 
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Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.
It is amazing--->how many religionists think they don't sin, have quit sinning or are above sin......how righteous they must be when JESUS said, "Why do you call me good, there are NONE GOOD, but God." <---he said this with SAVED APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES on the planet....
 
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I speak an human thing, because of the infirmity of your flesh. For as you have yielded your members to serve uncleanness and iniquity, unto iniquity; so now yield your members to serve justice, unto sanctification.
 
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But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto sanctification, and the end life everlasting.
 
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Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of the flesh and of the spirit, perfecting sanctification in the fear of God.
 
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For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that you should abstain from fornication;
 
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That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour:
 
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According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, unto the sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you and peace be multiplied.
 

Hevosmies

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It is amazing--->how many religionists think they don't sin, have quit sinning or are above sin......how righteous they must be when JESUS said, "Why do you call me good, there are NONE GOOD, but God." <---he said this with SAVED APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES on the planet....
Its aiight doe, Jaden is persevering! The sandwich man is doing good too, he aint taken no mark of the beast by using paper money. Even tho he got the internet and electricity. I wonder if he conjures up the sandwiches from thin air? Maybe he pays with coins? Thats alotta coins!