Do Good Works and Do His Commandments and maybe...

What is it that made people STOP understanding the FUTURE value of the OT in wisdom and knowledge?? Why isn't it being taught there is a place that lies "beyond" being saved?

Many times when the law of Moses is brought up, the most common response I hear "I am a Gentile not under the law of Moses, never have been".
When asked the question " what if you are of the scattered house of Israel?" it switches to "physical" genetics. Makes me think of "Jacob I loved, Esau I hated". Why would God hate Esau? Because his HERITAGE didn't mean anything to him. Well, it obviously means a lot to God. From that understanding of Gods feelings alone, I will count myself as a sheep of Israel, until God sets me straight.

But something has/is happened/happening in the hearts and minds of those who have come/are coming to salvation. Some how being "saved" has become the FINISH line when in Gods reality, ours also, it is the STARTING GATE. Getting saved just opens the starting gate to let the race begin. And when the race has been run, IT SEEMS one would want end up being " a Priest in the inner court, ministering to the Lord" and not just a "people".

WHAT does it take to be a PRIEST? No one can think it is just "DNA", can they?? I guess they could if they didn't understand the "spiritual" house of Israel and the meanings for the Millennium. But to become a priest, you must know ALL of Gods Word and the glory of them all. After all, Jesus came in the volume of the book to fulfill what was written about Him. The beginning to the end. Gods Plan. The what is going on in the world God created and created us to be a part of.

Somehow it became about" through the gift of faith I am saved" and I have salvation through Him, and He goes to prepare a place for me, and I have been made righteous through Him, and I am justified by Him and I have been sanctified through Him and because He loved me I now love and now the spirit will lead and guide me in all ways and all things, and I am a gentile, not under the law, so if I walk in love then I follow the law, The end. The end????? How did that happen???

I see that Jesus came and did perfectly all the works His Father sent Him to do. How that got translated to "He did it all perfect, I can do no better, so I rest", I still can't figure out.

So I bring up "works". 90% of the time I am told about the gift of salvation. In the beginning I thought, well must be a lot of new Christians joining all the time. But after a while I started seeing "a wall" built up around the subject. Why is it I can never mention works without the conversation being steered back to the "milk" of "salvation is a gift, you can't work for it"?

Who is it that doesn't want us to leave the starting gate and "start running the race"? Of course you don't work for a gift already given. It is such common sense I feel stupid whenever I say it. The response was many times the same, "well many do" they think they work to keep their salvation,
I of course think, "Well yes, I best be doing my part to become as disciplined as I can be after all, that is MY part in it, and I need to keep moving forward and maturing, and that is done through works".

Then I run into "not under the law" and find for many it really means "not applicable to me, therefore, not studied by me" yet in biblical discussions I am going to put forth what I do know, not knowing enough to know there are different levels of knowledge to know and therefore fight to keep everyone else here because I have this one bit of truth. How did that happen???? At what point did NOT studying ALL of Gods Word ever become "ok" for a Christian???

How could anyone believe that when the 1st commandment for the CHRISTIAN tells us

Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

and that doesn't mean ALL ALL ALL HIS WORDS???

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

A worker bee. A worker bee so as not to be ashamed. A worker bee so as to get out the starting gate and start running the race FOR GOD, not just "what HE can do for us, but who can we be for HIM". A worker bee so He can use us, so we can be of use to Him. A worker bee to become a Priest of the inner court, (if that be Gods will for us) or at least be the best bee we can be.

There is no way God will ever get mad at you for having studied His Word with all your heart and all your mind and all your strength.

It is not "works" to "keep" salvation, it is "works so that MAYBE you will be worthy to be "a vessel of honor". That can be found in studying and knowing ALL of Gods Word, and ALL of Gods laws, under them or not so you wont end up being a vessel of dishonor.


Luke 12:45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken

Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division

There's no "maybe". "Certainly" should have been inserted there.

As to the prophecy of Ezekiel it has absolutely no bearing on the Church. It is all about redeemed and restored Israel -- the twelve tribes. See chapter 48 and stop misapplying Scripture.

The OT oTanahk has contained within all the teachings and foretelling of our Savior. From Genesis we are taught Abraham is aour Father, spiritually and by translation of His Name. Some folks who have a streak of dislike for the founding fathers will say anything to turn people away from the OT. These folks will not be much in the Kingdom to come if they do not straighten up and open their hearts to Jesus, Yeshua, and the origins of His Gin the OT........

I like it. I remember there is a verse that talks about when we’re at the judgement, our works are gonna be tested as to whether they’re wood and stubble or precious treasures.

The works do not save us, but they are our reward. We still give an account. And when our work is intertwined with that grace and faith that saves us, it like...it strengthens you know? I think of like a cord, going back and forth with faith that saves us to make a solid relationship with God.