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Melach

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You might be surprised at how many think coffee is a vice that Christians shouldn't engage in.
yeah mormons are crazy. these peopel are works salvation idolaters. they believe in multiple gods. i have people that i know some non-denominational church goers disfellowship me for drinking alcohol on weekend. i say you are crazy, Jesus drink wine and made wine in a party. in the o.t. also God says, use this money for whatever you want, wine, strong drink, meat, food, whatever you wish. so clearly God is not a legalistic. its just about sin. if you dont sin its ok. if you go and steal then its a big problem. thats it. but these man made rules make me angry. people worshiping multiple gods are telling me im wrong ok? you are idolaters see how it works out
 
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One thing that amazed about Australia....they have coffee shops all over and yet many use kettles and instant coffee on their homes.......
Keurigs are very popular here.... I do like it, convenient and re-usable pods...... never ending variety of flavours.
 

PennEd

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Do you mean Mormons?
I don't think just them.

You can find a ton of guys, LEGALISTS, like this one who think something like this: No need to name him.

"Through a series of thoughtful conversation, experimentation, and prayer, this is what I’ve come to be convicted about: I stopped drinking caffeine so that my body could be more full of the Holy Spirit."
 

Melach

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I don't think just them.

You can find a ton of guys, LEGALISTS, like this one who think something like this: No need to name him.

"Through a series of thoughtful conversation, experimentation, and prayer, this is what I’ve come to be convicted about: I stopped drinking caffeine so that my body could be more full of the Holy Spirit."
i understand being righteous and pure is great. but at the same time its not about what you drink like caffeine, its about how you treat others. so you can not drink caffeine but be terrible uncharitable to others and no good.

i believe coffee doesnt change your personality and how you act. so its not sin. but if its like heroine then it changes your personality and makes you different lazy unable to function and open to demons. thats why i believe its sin. bible calls it sorcery pharmakia in greek.
 
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i understand being righteous and pure is great. but at the same time its not about what you drink like caffeine, its about how you treat others. so you can not drink caffeine but be terrible uncharitable to others and no good.

i believe coffee doesnt change your personality and how you act. so its not sin. but if its like heroine then it changes your personality and makes you different lazy unable to function and open to demons. thats why i believe its sin. bible calls it sorcery pharmakia in greek.
Amen...and Jesus said as much....it is NOT THOSE THINGS THAT ENTER THE BODY.......
 

Melach

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Not really.....the people I know make good money....like $2500 a week or more...
sounds like something is wrong with them not spending their money lolz. they make more money than me in a month in a week. what savages.
 
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sounds like something is wrong with them not spending their money lolz. they make more money than me in a month in a week. what savages.
hahhaha yeah the gov sets the salary based upon age, education and expierence...I would make about $2500 to $2700 a week there with my age and experience as a machinist......
 

Melach

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Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

2Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
 

Melach

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hahhaha yeah the gov sets the salary based upon age, education and expierence...I would make about $2500 to $2700 a week there with my age and experience as a machinist......
government sets salary? sound like socialism to me. i want america. give me what im worth. all 20 dollars of it
 

DeighAnn

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Nothing can be plainer. God gifted us salvation. But in the end the only thing we take with us is our works.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Certainly rightly dividing the word of truth so you wont be deceived into thinking that "works" are no necessary.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints, here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND DO LOTS OF WORKS
 

Melach

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Well...off on a run to town...about 25 k one way.....hold the fort down and swing away....laterzzz peeps....
what you run 25kilometers in 50yr? you are in better shape than ufc fighters. someone give this man a chill pill. or do you mean run in expression way? meaning driving to town? :D