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Jo2016

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What is the verse in the Bible said that divorce is approval?
If that wrong why there are christians are doing that I'm confused .
Who is right who is wrong
Matthew 5 (BBE)
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³¹ Again, it was said, Whoever puts away his wife has to give her a statement in writing for this purpose:

³² But I say to you that everyone who puts away his wife for any other cause but the loss of her virtue, makes her false to her husband; and whoever takes her as his wife after she is put away, is no true husband to her.





And if someone married anthor one and find himself wrong what should do for that
 

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God wants us to have life and have it more abundantly so I believe that must include having a loving, enduring, faithful relationship among other things.
 

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Although divorce was tolerated in the Old Testament, and acceptable under certain conditions in the New, Jesus affirms that this is not the ideal situation and outcome of a married couple. For, as intended by God, a man is to leave his parents and become one with his wife. Thus, it was implemented in the Old Testament simply to deal with the wickedness of one's heart, and that this epidemic of couples unable to reconcile their differences, was beyond Moses' ability to prohibit or eradicate it.

The Bible's stance on divorce, again, is that it is frowned upon, and that for couples today, it should not be considered as a means to resolve the issues in their relationship. Unless of course of infidelity, where the intended bond and oneness that a marriage demands, has been violated and defiled. And, solely in my opinion, I would say for excessive or constant abuse (physical or mental).

But why are Christian's divorcing when the Bible's overall view is that it is forbidden? Since when do Christians abide whole-heartedly to the Bible (I say this to our shame)? This answer is, that they are wrong, like we all are in too many ways to count. Simply that.

What was your last question, ...if someone marries someone and wants a divorce? No, he must not divorce, unless for the reasons stated above (take my personal exception as an uninspired opinion).

Genesis 2:22-24
2:22. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, 'for she was taken out of man." 24. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.


Some implicit passages from the Old Testament about the acceptability of divorce.

Deuteronomy 24:1-4
24:1. If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2. and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3. and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4. then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.
Leviticus 22:13
22:13. But if a priest's daughter becomes a widow or is divorced, yet has no children, and she returns to live in her father's house as in her youth,
she may eat of her father's food. No unauthorized person, however, may eat any of it.
Numbers 30:9
30:9. "Any vow or obligation taken by a widow or divorced woman will be binding on her.


And Jesus' tolerance of divorce, but only under an egregious offense. Otherwise, Jesus was profoundly against it.

Matthew 19:3-9
19:3. Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" 4. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5. and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." 7. "Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" 8. Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."


And Paul, or the Lord rather, expresses the same sentiments about the prohibition of divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11
7:10. To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
 

Nehemiah6

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What is the verse in the Bible said that divorce is approval?
1. God hates divorce.
2. God permitted divorce for only one reason -- adultery/fornication
3. Christ confirmed that that is the only reason for divorce
4. Marriage is between a man and a woman until death.
5. Every issue within marriage can be resolved through Christ.
6. Christians (believers) are to marry only other believers -- "in the Lord".
7. Before marriage each person must be sure that (1) they are saved, (2) the potential spouse is saved, and (3) both are clear that divorce is NOT an option.
 

dodgingstones

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This applies well when both are believers. The dangerous problems arise when only one is.
 

Jo2016

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Although divorce was tolerated in the Old Testament, and acceptable under certain conditions in the New, Jesus affirms that this is not the ideal situation and outcome of a married couple. For, as intended by God, a man is to leave his parents and become one with his wife. Thus, it was implemented in the Old Testament simply to deal with the wickedness of one's heart, and that this epidemic of couples unable to reconcile their differences, was beyond Moses' ability to prohibit or eradicate it.

The Bible's stance on divorce, again, is that it is frowned upon, and that for couples today, it should not be considered as a means to resolve the issues in their relationship. Unless of course of infidelity, where the intended bond and oneness that a marriage demands, has been violated and defiled. And, solely in my opinion, I would say for excessive or constant abuse (physical or mental).

But why are Christian's divorcing when the Bible's overall view is that it is forbidden? Since when do Christians abide whole-heartedly to the Bible (I say this to our shame)? This answer is, that they are wrong, like we all are in too many ways to count. Simply that.

What was your last question, ...if someone marries someone and wants a divorce? No, he must not divorce, unless for the reasons stated above (take my personal exception as an uninspired opinion).

Genesis 2:22-24
2:22. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, 'for she was taken out of man." 24. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.


Some implicit passages from the Old Testament about the acceptability of divorce.

Deuteronomy 24:1-4
24:1. If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2. and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3. and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4. then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.
Leviticus 22:13
22:13. But if a priest's daughter becomes a widow or is divorced, yet has no children, and she returns to live in her father's house as in her youth,
she may eat of her father's food. No unauthorized person, however, may eat any of it.
Numbers 30:9
30:9. "Any vow or obligation taken by a widow or divorced woman will be binding on her.


And Jesus' tolerance of divorce, but only under an egregious offense. Otherwise, Jesus was profoundly against it.

Matthew 19:3-9
19:3. Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" 4. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5. and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." 7. "Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" 8. Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."


And Paul, or the Lord rather, expresses the same sentiments about the prohibition of divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11
7:10. To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
So I think you agree with my opinion
Excuse me from this quotation i feel from Hollywood movie that it's so easy in "Europe , and US " to divorce and marry over and over with approval of church.
So that means are this church are wrong or make facilities to make christian not convert to other religion or denominations
 

Jo2016

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1. God hates divorce.
2. God permitted divorce for only one reason -- adultery/fornication
3. Christ confirmed that that is the only reason for divorce
4. Marriage is between a man and a woman until death.
5. Every issue within marriage can be resolved through Christ.
6. Christians (believers) are to marry only other believers -- "in the Lord".
7. Before marriage each person must be sure that (1) they are saved, (2) the potential spouse is saved, and (3) both are clear that divorce is NOT an option.
So I think you agree with my opinion
Excuse me from this quotation i feel from Hollywood movie that it's so easy in "Europe , and US " to divorce and marry over and over with approval of church.
So that means are this church are wrong or make facilities to make christian not convert to other religion or denominations
 

Nehemiah6

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So I think you agree with my opinion
Excuse me from this quotation i feel from Hollywood movie that it's so easy in "Europe , and US " to divorce and marry over and over with approval of church.
So that means are this church are wrong or make facilities to make christian not convert to other religion or denominations
Christians must not be influenced by the morals or behavior of Hollywood personalities or their philosophies. And some (or many) denominations have departed from Bible truth and doctrine.
 

Jo2016

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Christians must not be influenced by the morals or behavior of Hollywood personalities or their philosophies. And some (or many) denominations have departed from Bible truth and doctrine.
You didn't get my point i mean in US society is easy to get divorce or not?
And church there allow it or not
I know that movie has a lot of mistakes that's all
 
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1. God hates divorce.
2. God permitted divorce for only one reason -- adultery/fornication
3. Christ confirmed that that is the only reason for divorce
4. Marriage is between a man and a woman until death.
5. Every issue within marriage can be resolved through Christ.
6. Christians (believers) are to marry only other believers -- "in the Lord".
7. Before marriage each person must be sure that (1) they are saved, (2) the potential spouse is saved, and (3) both are clear that divorce is NOT an option.
Sometimes it’s not that easy. Sometimes two people just can’t seem to agree and it causes a life of strife, hardship and turmoil. Understandably the Christian couple should serve the Lord as one person working toward the same goal. Maybe that’s how it starts out but not always stays the course. Is your emphatic solution to remain in a life of misery? Is it beneficial for the Christian children see their parents screaming at eachother or belittling? Many times I would be happy to have lived a life separate and celibate compared to the brand of crazy I’ve endured. God has told me to stay. Perhaps this is the answer, it makes me stronger. What about someone less resilient? If it crushes them, does that serve the Lord?
 
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You didn't get my point i mean in US society is easy to get divorce or not?
And church there allow it or not
I know that movie has a lot of mistakes that's all
There is just about every flavour of “Christian” in North America. The ones that are cool with divorce are also cool with other abomination. You can get divorced, married....man to man, woman to woman, woman to cat... all in the same week. There really is no strict laws. If you have the money, you can do it.
 

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There is just about every flavour of “Christian” in North America. The ones that are cool with divorce are also cool with other abomination. You can get divorced, married....man to man, woman to woman, woman to cat... all in the same week. There really is no strict laws. If you have the money, you can do it.
All of this abomination made by the bless of church?
 

Nehemiah6

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Is your emphatic solution to remain in a life of misery? Is it beneficial for the Christian children see their parents screaming at each other or belittling?
The first thing we should recognize is that there is a solution to every problem.
 

Nehemiah6

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You didn't get my point i mean in US society is easy to get divorce or not?
Society does not govern Christian values. And churches have no control over what people do or do not do. But it is true that many Christian couples are allowing society to influence them. Which indicates a lack of commitment to Christ.
 

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What is the verse in the Bible said that divorce is approval?
If that wrong why there are christians are doing that I'm confused .
Who is right who is wrong
Matthew 5 (BBE)
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³¹ Again, it was said, Whoever puts away his wife has to give her a statement in writing for this purpose:

³² But I say to you that everyone who puts away his wife for any other cause but the loss of her virtue, makes her false to her husband; and whoever takes her as his wife after she is put away, is no true husband to her.





And if someone married anthor one and find himself wrong what should do for that
Acordding to the verse you mentioned The cause of divorse if someoe having anorher God. My x wife teling me she would not take me back unless I was rich was sufiscient reson. I will never be rich financially. I had prayed not to be rich or poor.
 

Jo2016

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Acordding to the verse you mentioned The cause of divorse if someoe having anorher God. My x wife teling me she would not take me back unless I was rich was sufiscient reson. I will never be rich financially. I had prayed not to be rich or poor.
I think best choice for that is separation
 
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7seasrekeyed

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You didn't get my point i mean in US society is easy to get divorce or not?
And church there allow it or not
I know that movie has a lot of mistakes that's all

when were you saved?

you stated you are saved from birth

that is not what the Bible teaches

so if you want to refer to the Bible, start with that maybe
 

Jo2016

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when were you saved?

you stated you are saved from birth

that is not what the Bible teaches

so if you want to refer to the Bible, start with that maybe
I don't understand you ¡
 
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What is the verse in the Bible said that divorce is approval?
If that wrong why there are christians are doing that I'm confused .
Who is right who is wrong
Matthew 5 (BBE)
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³¹ Again, it was said, Whoever puts away his wife has to give her a statement in writing for this purpose:

³² But I say to you that everyone who puts away his wife for any other cause but the loss of her virtue, makes her false to her husband; and whoever takes her as his wife after she is put away, is no true husband to her.





And if someone married anthor one and find himself wrong what should do for that
Many people who claim Christ get divorced.

I know the little house on the prairie days are over, and Jesus said that since iniquity shall abound at this time the love of many shall wax cold but there is still no excuse.

There is more selfishness, arrogance, self exaltation, worldliness, fleshy pleasures, lack of trust today than at any other time, which God told us of the last generation before Jesus comes back, Proverbs 30:11-14, which that will affect marriage the same as parents and children relations.

Technology increased the selfishness, and arrogance highly because it caused money and material things to flow like a raging river, and worldliness, and fleshy pleasures, so the nature of people became worse than any other time in history as they scramble to pursue those things, and because of that many people look at people as dogs instead of basically decent and caring like they did years ago.

So the attitude became you do not care about me, I do not care about you, and it gets worse, and then get all you can and forget everyone else.

So many people do not care about the feelings of others because they are engaged in the selfishness it caused, and people are not that special to them like they were years ago.

There are many people who jump from one relationship to another fast.

But there is still no excuse, and people should not jump in to marriage.

A person can divorce if one of them commits adultery or one of them dies.

They can separate any time they want but they are still married unless it is because of one of those reasons.

Some people do not understand the seriousness of marriage.

When we receive the Holy Spirit we become part of the body of Christ, and one with God as the man Christ Jesus is one with God.

That is the same thing in marriage but in the physical realm, which the Bible says what God has put together let no person put asunder, and they become one flesh.

But many get a divorce like it is no big deal and do not understand the severity of it.

And also many think they are led of the Spirit, but if they got a divorce they were acting according to the flesh that caused them to get a divorce, and there is no selfishness, and no arrogance, and no fighting in the Spirit.

But in many marriages they fight with each other, and fight for control, and bossy, and being selfish, and they are less than a team like years ago, and more on the individual level although they are supposed to be a team.

This affects the young people greatly that will have trouble in marriage and relationships living in a world that is different then before.

I am not impressed with people for I know their motivation, especially today, so that would include women for they are people, and have never been married for I do not think I would like it, and it seems to me as it would be a cut down to myself to get married in such a world we live in, but I could do marriage for 2 days a week and that is it.

I always liked freedom, and good mental health so marriage is not good for me, and like I said it is not little house on the prairie days anymore.

So I will miss out on marriage unless I am 80 years old then I would not mind getting married.

As long as people do not have anything to cling unto to exalt themselves people will get along great, and people will think people are basically decent and good, but technology changed all that.

So marriage will not be the same and eventually it will be international law that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction when the world comes together and says Peace and safety as they try to establish peace on earth.

For the new age movement is the future for this world and will give them something to cling unto to exalt themselves that is higher than money, and material things, and worldliness, and fleshy pleasures.

And that is evolution and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ in the future that interprets all religions according to evolution.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Jesus is not Lord and Savior but a good teacher and love, and evolved to be an ascended master and avatar, and acknowledge no personal God, but honors the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

And eventually worldwide law against preaching anything contrary to the new age movement, and they will not care about marriage so much anymore as they pursue things of the occult, and evolution to evolve to be like the man Jesus.

That is why they took prayer out of school, say that people are born gay and making it appear as cool and hip to be gay, and pointing out men in the media as dogs towards women, and portraying women as bossy and controlling, and money hungry, to drive a wedge between men and women to prepare them.