Where in the BIBLE DOES the sole have everlasting life ???????

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And after they have paid for their sins , They will be brote to ashes upon the ground . AND like Malachi says 4:3 He says And ye shall tread down the wicked ; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet ,in the day that I shall do this . saith the LORD of host .
 
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posthuman said:
where does it say it is a parable?

even if it is - and that's a big if - in fact wouldn't a person be calling God a liar if they insisted that His parables are based in impossible fantasy instead of reality?
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You need to study about what the BIBLE says about how people use parable .It's not very Good what it says .Talking how they use them .
 
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You need to study about what the BIBLE says about how people use parable .It's not very Good what it says .Talking how they use them .
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Well my contribution to this thread is done.
 
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Luke 23
42 Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”
43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

Bud, this is the account of the thief on the cross. What does Jesus mean by the word "Today"? Did the thief die that day? Where did Jesus go that day? (Day number 1 of 3 in the tomb)

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He Told him that day , BUT JESUS wasn't saying that he would be in paradice that day , FOR JESUS didN'T go to paradice that day. For JESUS said to Marry Don't touch me for I have not ascended to MY father .

JESUS was in the grave for 3 days & 3 night , HE was DEAD & DIDN'T know anything , And DIDN'T go anywhere while HE WAS DEAD .
 
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bud62 said:
You need to study about what the BIBLE says about how people use parable .It's not very Good what it says .Talking how they use them .
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okay, where in the Bible does God ever give a parable where everything He describes is based in falsehood?
where does Jesus ever give a specific person's name in a parable?

so, why do you call Lazarus & the rich man a parable?
and so, why would you say everything Jesus describes in this teaching is imaginary and contrary to fact?

how are you 'using this'? i'm believing that what Jesus says here is true.
 
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Chris1975 said:
Luke 23
42 Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”
43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

Bud, this is the account of the thief on the cross. What does Jesus mean by the word "Today"? Did the thief die that day? Where did Jesus go that day? (Day number 1 of 3 in the tomb)

Let's get to the bottom of this.....
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I say unto you today , thou shalt be with me in parable , witch Can be 2500 years from or more .
 
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posthuman said:
okay, where in the Bible does God ever give a parable where everything He describes is based in falsehood?
where does Jesus ever give a specific person's name in a parable?

so, why do you call Lazarus & the rich man a parable?
and so, why would you say everything Jesus describes in this teaching is imaginary and contrary to fact?

how are you 'using this'? i'm believing that what Jesus says here is true.
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JESUS IS THER TRUTH
 
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bud62 said:
JESUS IS THER TRUTH
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I say unto you today , thou shalt be with me in paradice . This can be 2500 years from then .JESus DIDN'T go to PARADICE that day , FOR HE told Mary 3 days latter that he had not ascended to the father yet.
 
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jb said:
Go on, pease do! lol
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it IS JUST LIKE WHEN THAT god TOLD ADAM In the day you eat of it , you shall surely die . HE was not saying that for it was 930 years latter when HE died . DID GOD lie , HE sure DID NOT ,The way HE said it didn't mean that day .
 
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bud62 said:
I say unto you today , thou shalt be with me in parable , witch Can be 2500 years from or more .
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Bud, you should not be in the teaching mode my friend but rather student mode.
 
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bud62 said:
it IS JUST LIKE WHEN THAT god TOLD ADAM In the day you eat of it , you shall surely die . HE was not saying that for it was 930 years latter when HE died . DID GOD lie , HE sure DID NOT ,The way HE said it didn't mean that day .
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Up until the point that Adam and Eve partook of the fruit, they were immortals. Once they partook, they became sinful, fallen mortals just like the rest of us. So God was correct when He said, "you shall surely die" because their bodies became mortal and they died.
 
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Chris1975 said:
Bud, you should not be in the teaching mode my friend but rather student mode.
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I'm sorry you fill that way , I'm not very smart ,nor got much schooling , BUT what I have GOT I DO Believe GOD Give ME . About all the wise man and teacher where against JESUS too. And were egnorrent in GOD , I praise GOD FOR what HE's SHOWED , If even if there are not many that believe , I'd stand alone on it , AS it was in the time of JESUS , SO will be again . GOD bless as HE sees fit .
 
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bud62 said:
I say unto you today , thou shalt be with me in paradice . This can be 2500 years from then .JESus DIDN'T go to PARADICE that day , FOR HE told Mary 3 days latter that he had not ascended to the father yet.
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It depends on where you put the comma in that sentence.

I say unto you today, you shall be with me in paradise. This implies that the thief WILL some day be in paradise with Jesus.

But if you put the comma BEFORE the word "today", it changes the implication. "I say unto you, today you will be with me in paradise". Meaning that implies the thief and Jesus both went to paradise immediately upon their deaths.
 
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John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
It depends on where you put the comma in that sentence.

I say unto you today, you shall be with me in paradise. This implies that the thief WILL some day be in paradise with Jesus.

But if you put the comma BEFORE the word "today", it changes the implication. "I say unto you, today you will be with me in paradise". Meaning that implies the thief and Jesus both went to paradise immediately upon their deaths.
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The thing is that the comma , where not in the Hebrew they were add later . & are inspard BY GOD .
 
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bud62 said:
The thing is that the comma , where not in the Hebrew they were add later . & are inspard BY GOD .
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JESUS didn't go to paradice that , He was dead in the grave , for 3 days , Also He told Mary not to touch HIM ,3 days latter , for HE had not ascended to the father yet , 3 days after HIS death ,
 
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blue_ladybug said:
It depends on where you put the comma in that sentence.

I say unto you today, you shall be with me in paradise. This implies that the thief WILL some day be in paradise with Jesus.

But if you put the comma BEFORE the word "today", it changes the implication. "I say unto you, today you will be with me in paradise". Meaning that implies the thief and Jesus both went to paradise immediately upon their deaths.
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The commas were not in the BIBLE in the Hebrew writing ; they were add latter .
 
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bud62 said:
JESUS didn't go to paradice that , He was dead in the grave , for 3 days , Also He told Mary not to touch HIM ,3 days latter , for HE had not ascended to the father yet , 3 days after HIS death ,
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1 Peter 3

18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

- look closely at verse 19.
 
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