What is the gospel

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What’s wrong with using non-scripture to affirm facts of history? The books of Maccabees isn’t considered scripture(Except by Catholics) but is gives a historical overview of the Jewish revolt against the Seleucid Empire.
I am talking about church doctrine.
 

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Well, even at this point of time, there are many Jews who rejected Jesus as the son of God, even when they follow the OT right? ;)
That’s was definitely true, but that doesn’t mean the Eunuch was Jewish. The book of Isaiah central to Judaism even to this day.
 
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That’s was definitely true, but that doesn’t mean the Eunuch was Jewish. The book of Isaiah central to Judaism even to this day.
So my point was that you cannot use someone struggling to understand that Isaiah passage quoted in acts 8, to say that he cannot be a Jew.

After all, Jews now have that passage, and they still reject Jesus
 

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So my point was that you cannot use someone struggling to understand that Isaiah passage quoted in acts 8, to say that he cannot be a Jew.

After all, Jews now have that passage, and they still reject Jesus
But you cannot say since he was worshiping in Jerusalem made him Jewish. The Temple did have an outside Gentile courtyard.
 
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But you cannot say since he was worshiping in Jerusalem made him Jewish. The Temple did have an outside Gentile courtyard.
Let's say you are correct, but under the Law of Moses, any Gentile who wants to go to Jerusalem to worship have to join Judaism. (Exodus 12:48). They have to become Jews.

Nevertheless, it is true that because they are not ethnic Jews, they will not be allowed pass the outer courts.
 

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So my point was that you cannot use someone struggling to understand that Isaiah passage quoted in acts 8, to say that he cannot be a Jew.

After all, Jews now have that passage, and they still reject Jesus
I understand why you would have to come to that conclusion in order to make your belief legitimate.
 

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Let's say you are correct, but under the Law of Moses, any Gentile who wants to go to Jerusalem to worship have to join Judaism. (Exodus 12:48). They have to become Jews.

Nevertheless, it is true that because they are not ethnic Jews, they will not be allowed pass the outer courts.
Maybe he was a new convert. We don’t know so we cannot make assumptions.
 
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I understand why you would have to come to that conclusion in order to make your belief legitimate.
Likewise, for you too. ;)

Let us agree to disagree then, cheers and God bless. Matthew 28 Great Commission is so commonly taught as a foundation in many churches, so I do understand it can sound very heretical to say that it was not meant for the Body of Christ now.
 

Aerials1978

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Likewise, for you too. ;)

Let us agree to disagree then, cheers and God bless. Matthew 28 Great Commission is so commonly taught as a foundation in many churches, so I do understand it can sound very heretical to say that it was not meant for the Body of Christ now.
I don’t think it’s a heresy. We all have differing views. My sister-in-law says she speaks in tongues and I have kind of hard time believing that. Could I be wrong? Of course. As long as Christ is peached. After all I’m just a finite individual waiting to go home.
 

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1. What is the gospel
The Gospel = Good News

The Good News is that God manifested in the flesh in the form of the LORD Jesus Christ and took the penalty that was due upon all who have transgressed the will of God.. This Atonement is offered as a gift and to accept it one needs to believe Jesus and Trust ( have Faith ) that the Atonement Jesus secured by His sacrifice on the cross obtains for us the forgiveness of sins justly and wins for us eternal life with the LORD in his perfect eternal existence..



2. What is the statement of faith?
Believe the Word of God.. The LORD Jesus Christ and trust in Him..


3. When did the Christianity begin?
On the first day of Pentecost after Jesus return to heaven.. On that day The Holy Spirit of God came down and indwelled the Apostles and at that moment the first Christians where created and thus Christianity itself was born..



4. If there were 12 apostles why was Paul chosen?
Why did God call many tens of thousands of Christians down throughout the centuries to share His message? Because God can use anyone of His followers to spread the good news about His loving Atonement that saves whomsoever will believe.. Paul was knowledgeable in the Torah scriptures and thus was suited to the task and also God showed that even a man like Paul who persecuted and killed Christians could be saved from the eternal lake of Fire..
 

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Matthew 28 Great Commission is so commonly taught as a foundation in many churches, so I do understand it can sound very heretical to say that it was not meant for the Body of Christ now.
Anyone who believes that will believe anything. Where did you pick up this bizarre notion?
 
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Anyone who believes that will believe anything. Where did you pick up this bizarre notion?
If you believe that Paul was supposed to be the replacement to Judas , naturally you will not agree with that
 

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1. What is the gospel

2. What is the statement of faith?

3. When did the Christianity begin?

4. If there were 12 apostles why was Paul chosen?
1. The gospel is "the good news" because it informs us how that we were delivered eternally by the sacrifice of Jesus upon the cross. The gospel also informs us how that we can live a more abundant, and peaceful life here on earth, if we will follow his commandments.

2. Romans 5:1-2, Therefore being justified by faith (faith of Jesus), we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. By whom also we have access by (our) faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3. Acts 11:26, And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people, And the disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

4. Paul was chosen, mainly to be the Apostle for ushering in the Gentiles, and also, to preach the gospel to the whole church, which includes a people from every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation. Rev 5:9.
 

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They were told in Matthew 10:5 not to preach the gospel to the Gentiles.

But I suppose you are referring to the "all nations" part of the Great Commission in Matthew?

How would you reconcile these 2 contradictory commandments?
They were to preach to the elect, who were scattered into all nations.
 

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If you believe that Paul was supposed to be the replacement to Judas , naturally you will not agree with that
Notice no one has gone to the four gospels for the gospel message. 😜. You have to go to Paul’s epistles.
 

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God began with Adam and Eve

God then left man for then 2000 years; lets see what they do.

After Noah, God calls Abram out of idolatry " leave your Father and come to a land that I will give you.

The comes the covenant and the promise for the descendants, as numerous as the stars in the sky. now called Abraham.

The Israelites who worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob continue to create problems and be reestablished many times.
They are the only chosen people of God in the Old Testament, But God's Word will not return to Him Void.

In other words, He Keeps His Promises for His Names sake
and the Kingdom will come at the 2nd coming; and Christ the King will rule the whole earth for everlasting to everlasting.

Then the Christians.
 
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Notice no one has gone to the four gospels for the gospel message. 😜. You have to go to Paul’s epistles.
that’s the good thing about believing the body of Christ began at acts 2,

Paul and the other 12 are interchangeable since it’s all the same gospel to them
 
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They were to preach to the elect, who were scattered into all nations.
If I want to support this view of yours, I would say that the gospel of the kingdom was only meant for the Jews.

Thus, the entire Jewish nation was considered part of the elect. The Gentiles were excluded from the audience of the Great Commission (Ephesians 2:11-12)