Whatever Happened to the Ten Commandments?

Jeremiah said the New Covenant would replace the Old Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31–34). Moses said the Old Covenant was the Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13; Deuteronomy 9:9 etc.). And Jesus said: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” (Matthew 5:17–18).

So how do we harmonize Jeremiah who says the New Covenant will replace the Ten Commandments? And Moses who confirms the Ten Commandments are the Old Covenant. With Jesus who says “one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” Does this mean heaven and earth cannot end until he fulfills all? And that he would do this before the New Covenant could begin?

The solution is in the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus shows how to fulfill the Ten Commandments with the Two Great Commandments. The Two Great Commandments teach: “…. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.” Luke 10:27 (KJV 1900) Calling for positive action based on love towards God and people.

In the parable of the Good Samaritan the passersby avoided the mugging victim. But they kept the Ten Commandments. They kept the eighth commandment by not stealing more from the victim while in a vulnerable position. But they still robbed him according to the Two Great Commandments. By not treating him as their equal and running to his aid.

So Why the Ten Commandments? The Ten Commandments aimed at controlling the wicked unbelievers in the nation. These were so wicked it took 40 years of toil to complete an eleven day journey from Egypt to Canaan. Wandering in the desert until all but faithful Caleb and Joshua dropped dead. God denied them the land promises because of their sin.

As Paul says: “But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;” 1 Timothy 1:8–10 (KJV 1900)

It is obvious Abraham, Abel, Job and other believers did not need the Law or they would have had it too. When God removed the unbelievers from Israel under Christ (Romans 11), he removed the Ten Commandments with them (Colossians 2:14). Leaving only the moral law in its spiritual application for believers.

During the closing years of the Old Covenant Jesus preached the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7). Showing the Ten Commandments were morally equal to the Two Great Commandments when understood. As with the Good Samaritan, passively not stealing from someone according to the Ten Commandments is still stealing if you owe them the same treatment you lavish on yourself. Not stealing under threat of death does not make you good. It only makes bad people not do badly under threat of death. Only when obeyed actively in love for God and others did a person keep the Ten at a level equal the Two Great Commandments.

Jesus showed how to fulfill the Law. If he fulfilled the Ten Commandments on the cross as the unbelieving Jews understood them. He would not have lusted after Pilate’s wife. Or stolen his spear. Or coveted the soldier’s shield, and such. And then he would have felt good about himself for not doing these when he wanted to. This is the level most kept the Ten Commandments as seen in the Pharisees. And then perhaps thanking God as the Pharisee that he is not like others who do such.

But when Jesus fulfilled the Two Great Commandments, he fulfilled the Ten Commandments in a proper way too. Because when spiritually understood they have equal moral value to the Two Great Commandments. (Matthew 22:40).

So how did Jesus fulfill the Law?

“And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.” Luke 10:27 (KJV 1900)

When Jesus fulfilled the Law on the cross, he Loved God with all his mind, body, soul, and heart and strength. And his neighbor as himself.

He gave all his body over to the worst death imaginable in love for God and enemies. He gave his entire mind and soul in love for God when he said “not my will but thy will be done”. And he gave his last ounce of strength in his love for God and enemies as we wrenched the last drop of blood from him. And he loved his enemies as his own self when he asked God to forgive them for killing him.

So Jesus when fulfilling the Two Great Commandments also fulfilled the Ten to the fullest extent. And in that he abolished them in their redundancy by nailing them to his cross (Colossians 2:14). So when we think of the Law as believers today, we see the Ten Commandments no longer in their elementary form. But in their spiritual form equal to the Two Great Commandments through the Sermon on the Mount. Providing a practical application of the Two Great Commandments for everyday life.

I had a good conversation with my son after church yesterday, and he had a very good explanation of what these things are. He said," humans are stupid and over complicate everything."
So what to do with the ten commandments? Examine them from the heart of someone who loves God, and wants to live a life pleasing to him, and tell me which one is ok to live contrary too. Yes Jesus fulfilled the law but in living in good conscience toward God what laws we're about morality and good behavior and which ones were ceremonial, and ritual. Don't steal is about behavior and morality, waving grain before the Lord is ceremony.
So I know this will come down to the Sabbath and worship on Saturday. I don't have time at this time to write an answer.bif I have time later I will.

What ever happened to the Ten Commandments/Ten Words of God? Nothing. They still apply , as Jesus taught, and they are written in our hearts so that we will not be separated from them. The moral laws that teach us how to love God and our neighbor as ourselves still apply. If they don't then the converse of what they instruct is able to be done by the Christian. Scary thought.

It's the Two Great Commandments written in the heart, not the Ten. The Ten were aimed at wicked unbelievers forcing them to act good or die.

Is it ok to do any of those 10, I think they are do’s and dont’s not just wicked and unbeliever a unbeliever isn’t going to read the ten anyways

You omit the rest of Jesus teaching in regard to the two greatest commands. Upon those hang all the law and the prophets. Which is to say, besides Jesus reiterating the commandments before telling us that, the Ten Commandments/Ten Words of God are still valid.
Their foundation? Love! Love of God, love of ourselves and our neighbor as ourselves. You can't omit the scripture pertaining to this fact and have a valid argument against God's Ten.

That is what the OP is about. The Two Great Commandments are the same as the Ten when understood as Jesus understood them. Being redundant when understood at that level, believers only use the Ten as a reference.

That's not going to work.
Lord have mercy.

You can sin while keeping the Ten Commandments. Not possible with the Two Great Commandments. Why? You can not steal from the hungry by not taking their bread. But at the same time, you steal from them by not feeding them as you feed yourself. Get the picture?

Jesus teaches if a believer obeys the Two Great laws he has performed or obeyed them all.

The few laws which are to be followed are those remaining which make up the two great laws.

Upon examination in heart and soul we find the Ten Commandments satisfy those Two great laws. Read them with this in mind and you cannot prevent yourself from understanding at least this much. It is so.

oh not this again

I guess some people really do not know

as Christians, we KNOW we cannot go around sinning and therefore make every effort to please God which would include understanding the law of God now written on our hearts

but no. the urge to prove some Christians are not as good as the originator of such constant and abusive op's and must needs hear it again, that our narrow world view is guided by, hemmed in and locked in place with only a window too high to look out of (forgive the run on sentence...or not...I don't care) is just irresistible

so they offer yet another glass of soured milk with no cookies and hunt for those to scold who say we are saved by grace and not by obedience and totally and willingly overlook the fact that no one is saying 'let us sin' because they counter with grace when law is brought up

even the horses on the merry go round have left for greener pastures and nausea is the only offering on the tableau of yet another inane discussion

Jesus stated that the law and the prophets are summed up by :

37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’e 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’f 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

the entire law and prophets even....summed up which means totalled by

but why did Jesus say this?

34And when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they themselves gathered together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested Him with a question: 36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”

He said it because the religious parasites of His day were yet again trying to trick Him

I see trickery in this thread and I am not Jesus nor a religious leader of any sort

I see trickery in many threads here because certain people desire to lead with no qualifications or having some of any sort, think themselves above others and insist on shoving their continuous and certifiably obnoxious repetitions onto others who keep responding to their delight and behold yet another day passes by and Jesus is not honored nor is better understanding achieved

well good on me, eh?

I'm not a fan favorite here anyway and nor do I care to be.

Obviously. And not a point often realized. The fact is the wicked and the unbelievers commit those sins.
What appears to be overlooked by those who's doctrine renounces God's laws and the Ten Commands/Ten Words, is that Jesus tells us He did not come to abolish the Law of God.
He lived the Law of God perfectly. He fulfilled the edicts, behaved perfectly in keeping with the commands. And not all is yet accomplished in the Messianic prophecy, therefore not everything has been accomplished, and also, Earth and Heaven are still here, so the Laws of God have not passed away.

The divisive agenda that arose centuries ago to divide the community of Christ has worked wonders to this point. Churches should be ashamed they teach the false doctrine of Replacement Theology, and as anti-Jewish proponents, condemn anything related to the Old Testament and as such send their flock into the world to spread the lies told from the pulpit.
Yet, God sees it all and regardless of the wolves in the pulpit knows His own.
My sister encountered a church like that when traveling across the country, taking the easy going long route to a new job promotion many states removed from home.
After the service that she stayed to the end for she texted me. It's amazing what passes itself off as in Christ these days.
Indeed. One has but to turn on the TV and watch certain TV pastors to know that is true. Or, look for the archive of the "reality show", Preachers of LA, to really feel your stomach turn.

How gleeful though must the enemy be watching the same thing?

supposed to be written on our heart now anyways

notice why Jesus said those things?

You don't realize it now however, I pray one day you do. All that you said there makes zero sense.

do you suppose?

they don't want an answer anyway....accusation and trickery and snapping of the suspenders would do far better I suspect

but notice why Jesus said what He did regarding the summation of the law

He was responding to religion without God...the desire to be right and to demand respect with no qualifications other than you have longer robes on

makes the devil very very angry when you do not respect such things

this is some of the trickery I was talking about

you cannot refute this because it is nonsensical but the aim is to be right rather than righteous

When I read posts here on the law I understand most who deny obeying those remaing laws...on the hearts of all who believe, have never learned just which laws make up Love. These people who choose to ignore what Jesus teaches on the law yet have the veil of MOses preventing their seeing with clarity preferring to deny our Lord's taching on how to obey theLaw and His Example.

Some will say over and over again, "not again," but these same will say the same exclamation when hearing the Gospel over and over again. Truth that is eternal is always worthy. Ask Jesus.

Jesus teaches all the law and the prophets hang on the two commandments, the two great commandments. There fore they are composed of the remaining laws of love.

Also in the same discourse Jesus tells us to love God with all of our heart, soul and mind..With our mind and in prayer afor guideance of the Holy Spirit we learn the law from Jesus in detail, and we study all of what He instucted Moses to write down in order to know which are fulfilled and whic shill contnue eternally. Some will also end with this age, however there is never any harm in obyeing Jesus, but there is great disgrace in taching agains even th eleast of the laws by any professing to believe Him when He taches to the contrary.

You believe Jesus? Then you must hear Him, not ignore Him

Where do you find that the ten are do not agree with what is written in our hearts? If you love the Lord you want to live as the Lord tells us, and of course, to love man each law would be followed. It is the truth that sin causes death. If someone pointed a gun at you, would it be wicked for a person to help you get away? You are saying it is wicked and being forced to escape that death.

The Lord gave us protection in Christ, He makes us as if we obeyed the law. Wouldn't it be completely foolish to purposely disobey? Would it be "force" if a person helped another stay from disobedience?

I don't see how Christ, even, can help you if you believe in sinning and do not want to stay away from it. Christ will not force you to accept His righteousness.

What happened to the ten commands? They are in the ark of the covenant as a witness to God and man that man is guilty, as he has been unable to keep just ten of his commands, let alone all the rest of them, they are the ministration of death engraved on stones, the fact is, if not for the atoning sacrifice, there would be no hope, because they would condemn us all.

praise god for his son.