The mark of beast

It is not a metaphor, nor is it a microchip, nor is it the symbol of any past king. The prophecy is very clear that during the Apocalypse period after the old dragon named Satan is cast down to the earth he will give his power to a man and to an idol which speaks. When this idol is set up where it ought not to stand, then will they begin to make men take the mark of the beast and they will put to death those that refuse to worship the idol of the beast, the man of sin, and the dragon named Satan.

Hmmmm....

I do NOT believe taking the mark of the beast will be something done without awareness. Afterall, we are held accountable for making that "CHOICE".

You can understand better why, in early Acts, they were eager to contribute all their possessions in a common pot, and do not claim they own anything (Acts 4:32).

They were expecting the Tribulation and the beast to arrive soon. So when these events occur, since they don't own anything, they will be less tempted to take the mark of the beast.

Your on he right track except that Satan fell from heaven a long time ago.
Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Christ saw Satan fall from heaven after there was war in heaven and Satan and his angels were defeated.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
I undersatnd that the war in heaven is spoken of in the book of Revelation but if Christ "beheld" Satan fall Christ was talking about the fall of Satan as being past tence. The word "beheld" is past tence.

Exactly! We will be forced to make a conscious choice between the things of this world or the things of God.

I think that the West world has been the bigges false doctrine spreader of all time. Where did these wicked evolution doctrines and other wicked manmade doctrines agains God come from, whch are pollutin whole world as we speek? And when the number of the beast is also man, there is plenty of evidence that the west is the main beast in this world, who has exalt it self above all, with ways of science and also ways of demokracy, which is a mans voice above all.

It describes where you receive the mark .. Obamacare first mentioned an rfid chip before it was changed to say the person in charge could determine how .. Joe biden questioned justice john Roberts about how he would rule on it when the day come .. I'll take a chip in a card like a credit card or fingerprint reading scan for id and they have eye reading scans to identify .. I've heard that there's rfid chip imlant tech that could alter your dna or even your brain .. I'll not take an implant and I'm praying Jesus will give me the grace when the time comes to refuse it with joy and supernatural confidence ..

This was 15 yrs ago .. I think this was a bizarre question to ask to be just out of the blue ..

That shall happen in the future near the end. Soon. And there shall be much rejoicing in heaven because the dragon whom accuses the saints before the throne of God day and night shall be cast down. But great woe to the inhabitants of earth and sea, because the Devil will be come down to them and he will be full of wrath because he will know on that day that his time is short.

666 is simply natural unconverted man under the authority of the god of this world.(Un-redeemed mankind)

No sign as a wonder given other than the sign of Jonas .It was fulfilled in the coming of the Son of man. Christ will come on the last day as a thief in the night. And not to stock up on worldly goods needed to maintain these bodies of death.

It is a evil generation (666) walking by sight that seeks after the temporal and not the eternal faith as it is written.

It is not literal mark and neither does the buying and selling have to do with tangible items. The bible is a spiritual book it is not concerned with the political kingdoms of this world like Jerusalem, Rome, USA etc. They belong to the kingdom of the god of this world .

There will be no literal mark needed to buy the things needed in order to maintain our bodies of death .No need to stock up on toiletries . Rather than a famine for household goods there will be a famine for hearing the word of the gospel

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

The mark is the mark of Cain spoken of in Genesis 4. The mark of the restless wanderer, having no rest with Christ in his work . A living hell

So if Satan is before the throne of God accusing the saints day and night, when does he have the time to walk on the earth???
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
ob 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
So when did Satan have the time to enter into Judas if he is standing before the throne day and night???
Luk 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. 2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
How can Satan be the god of this world and stand at the throne night and day??
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
According to the above verses it is impossible for Satan to stand before the throne night and day and walk up and down in the earth and walking to and fro upon the earth.
If Satan were stuck in heaven day and night he wouldn't have had the time to inter into Judas.
In Job 1:6 it says that the "there was a day when the sons of God CAME to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan CAME also among them"
If Satan was already standing before the throne day and night how could have Satan "CAME" with the rest of the angels to present them selves to the Lord when he was already standing in front of the throne accusing the people of God???
Or how was it possible for Satan to be standing at the right hand of Joshua and at the throne of God at the same time???
Zec 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
Satan has already been cast out of heaven long ago.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
At the time of the fall of Adam and Eve there were only three in the Garden of God. Adam, Eve and Satan. The above verses are talking about Satan.
It is clear angels have existed since the beginning of creation (Job 38:7). Sometime prior to Genesis 3, Satan (then a leading angel) rebelled against God and was judged (Ezekiel 28; Isaiah 14). It is believed many other angels rebelled with him during this time, becoming the fallen angels or demons mentioned throughout the Bible.

A close look at Revelation 12 does clarify some aspects. It is clear one third of the angels are fallen or have become demons. Since the number of angels is "innumerable" (Hebrews 12:22), one third includes a vast number of demons who have rebelled against God. In Mark 5 Jesus met a man possessed by so many demons that they called themselves "Legion." Jesus allowed the demons to enter pigs when they left the man; the herd of about 2,000 pigs rushed off the steep bank and drowned in the sea (Mark 5:9-13). Mary Magdalene was freed from seven spirits (Luke 8:2). Jesus also mentioned another account of seven spirits together at one time (Matthew 12:45; Luke 11:26).
Isa 14:12 HOW ART THOU FALLEN FROM HEAVEN, O LUCIFER, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
There is over welming scriptural evidance that Satan and his angel followers were already cast out of Heaven even before Satan tempted Eve in the garden of God. If what you are saying is true then that would mean that there is a major contradiction in the Word of God and there are no contradictions in the Word of God. Rev. 12:7-10 is an account of that which has already happened. Heaven knew already when Satan fell that the saints of the future would overcome Satan and his control over this world by the blood of the Lamb a long time ago.
Satan was once made perfect in all of his ways until iniquity was found within.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
But we know that in the garden Satan was already the deceiver, lier and tempter he is today. So it is virtually impossible for Satan to still in heaven day and night today.

You should just keep reading from where you quoted me Revelation 12 in your last post.

Revelation 12:9-12

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

So all of those other scriptures I quoted are wrong. Right?

No you should take into account more then just one set of scriptures. The scriptures I have quoted prove that Satan has been cast out of heaven long ago and those scriptures prove your teaching a false belief.

No, I didn't write the book of the Apocalypse.

I can't imagine when the time come, now just because of corona virus, in my town people panik, buy water, canned food start hard to Find.

Many of the passages you quoted are not even about Satan. For example Isaiah 14 is not about Satan, it is about the man that made the earth tremble, the king of Babylon. Ezekiel 28 is not about Satan, it is about a man that was once a wise man, but because of his great earthly wealth his heart became foolish against God, the king of Tyre.

For your scriptures that are actually about Satan, yes they are true. Satan went in before the throne of God to accuse Job and tell a bunch of lies like he always does. Yes it is true Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, the breath of his lies poisoned Judas' heart to be a traitor. Yes, Satan whom is a dragon breathes out his lies, which is the spirit of errors from whence all the demons come from (for the word spirit means breath) and by this he blinds the minds of the unbelievers and puts them into the bondage of his lies and only the truth of the Gospel of Jesus can set man free.

For me something right now has more power then the lawless one. Gee who could that be. I believe its the Church. I think one of the most deceiving things is when we read the image is given life, the image talks etc. Today duh we know this can't happen. Yet.. read all the stuff that happen BEFORE Christ came. Christ comes.. things changed. Then something is taken out of the world.. out of the way.. then and only then does the lawless one come out in the open and do lying wonders.

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." So unless you worship.. your dead.

Yet theres something else we miss here that does not get talked about
"All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Did we get that? So tell me is your name written the book of life of the lamb from the foundation of the world? There are some different interpretations of this. The fact is... all whos names are not written in the book of life of the lamb will worship the beast. So.. thats not you or me. Hey.. you want to debate about once saved always saved or lose your salvation go for it. But what I know is no where in the word of GOD does it say or hint at that anyone has or will be blotted out of the book of life of the lamb/lambs book. We know the unrightous are written in the book of life. "May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous."

So there is nothing to fear. My name is written now in the lambs book or was before the foundation of the world. I have never got stuck there. But I wont be here.

There is nothing in Revelation which would lead you (or anyone) to conclude that the Mark of the Beast is metaphorical.

While we may not know exactly what form it will take, it will clearly be an identifying mark for each person under the reign of the Antichrist, who has submitted to him. Those who refuse to do so will be killed (beheaded). Given the technology that exists, an electronic chip with the number 666 + another series of numbers would fulfil that prophecy for millions.

The Seventh Day Adventists have wrongly claimed that Sunday worship = taking the Mark of the Beast. However, that is nonsensical for the simple reason that God has limited the total control of the world by Satan and the Antichrist to just 3 1/2 years. But according to the SDAs it has been around for hundreds of years.

Man you are way out there in left field, The one passage alone should have told you that you were wrong.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Lucifer is Satan. Looks like you don't do any research. You just simply assume and call it correct. I never post without first research the scriptures I am about to post.