Is it a sin to drink alcohol

I don't judge after the flesh, and if I did I wouldn't judge a man based upon hearsay.

Num 6:3 He shall separate himself from
wine; and
strong drink; and shall drink no
vinegar of wine; or
vinegar of strong drink,neither shall he drink
any liquor of grapes; nor
eat moist grapes, or dried.

It says nothing about the juice from the fruit of the vine.

lucky for you, you don't have to rely on hearsay. unless that's what you think scripture is. because scripture tells us about whether Noah is righteous or not:

first thing he does after the flood is build an altar to praise God, who saved him.
next he plants a vineyard & makes wine - quite obviously alcoholic. Genesis 9:20-21
is your position that Noah was doing evil in the sight of God? that having been spared from destruction, he immediately became wicked and stopped walking with God?
when he 'awoke from his wine' ((v.24)) he said "blessed be the LORD" ((v.26))
what do you say, does anyone bless the LORD except by the Spirit?
is this an evil man, plotting to do wickedness by planting a vineyard?
or is this a righteous man rejoicing in the goodness and blessing of the God he walks with?

if you're going to judge people who drink wine - which, dude, that's judgement after the flesh - then you sit also in judgement over Noah. is that a comfy seat? is what i'd like to know.

Agreed if Mark 13:11 isn't true. If it is true then you can tell yourself it isn't.

If you insist that this was unfermeted grape juice, Nazarites were not allowed to drink that, either.

Irrelevant... completely.

Alcohol is especially not for Priests, for they are to be ever Holy [Holiness] unto the the Lord:


[Some will say I have taken this passage out of context for it only deals with not drinking when entered into the Sanctuary, but they do not know the basics of scripture [I do not merely say so, Paul himself says so; Hebrews 5:11-14], but rather if one will consider yet further the Book of Hebrews [where in Paul is quite clear], etc, it will be seen that I have placed it exactly within its proper context for Christians [1 Corinthians 10:6,11, 15:46; for those things were written for our admonition, for ensamples [types] unto us], who are, even now supposed to be by faith, entered into the True Tabernacle of Heaven's work; Thus being that we are entered in with Him [Christ Jesus] by Faith, even now into the Most Holy in Heaven, the Anti-typical Day of Atonement; see Daniel; Hebrews and Revelation, Leviticus 16 and 23. More detail may be said of this later.]

...the example of Nadab and Abihu [Leviticus 10:1-11; Numbers 3:4; 26:1; 1 Chronicles 24:2] are given as examples of what happens in transgression by drinking that which is forbidden and bringing not the Holy Fire of God, but their own "strange" fire of confusion [God is not the author of confusion (which is what alcohol brings) – 1 Corinthians 14:33] before the LORD, therefore:


Those which place no such difference, but instead put darkness for light and bitter for sweet, will so likewise perish in the presence of the LORD.

Jesus Christ upon the cross, was offered the wine (alcohol) mingles with myrrh, tasted it, see, Mark 15:23 (see also Matthew 27:34; Luke 23:36), and he did not drink it.


For it was the symbol of death (decay, corruption):

As priests of the most High God, we are to be entered into the True Sanctuary with God by faith, and thus we are not to drink alcohol, as Nadab and Abihu, and offer a strange fire. There is not alcohol in Heaven, and none will be in the New Heaven and New Earth, for all thing there are eternally "new".

lucky for you, you don't have to rely on hearsay. unless that's what you think scripture is. because scripture tells us about whether Noah is righteous or not:

But the juice from the fruit of the vine could include a number of fruits, not just grapes.

The vow of the Nazarite would not have precluded drinking grape juice.

Jesus didn't drink the wine with gall, because it was a sedative, and he intended to suffer fully on the cross for us.
Stop trying to make scripture say what you WANT it to say.

When first century people spoke of the fruit of the vine, they ALL knew it was grapes.

Might consider taking a history class.

Here is a list of the fruits from Rome to Egypt that would have been available .
apples, pears, pomegranates, lazzeruole, quinces, plums, blackberries and mulberries, cherries , peaches, apricots, figs and grapes, melons, melons, watermelons) and nuts (walnuts, hazelnuts, almonds, pine nuts, dates) and of course, olives

Those who claim that drinking any alcohol is forbidden have real issues, because Jesus undoubtedly drank alcohol.

Like he said, If it is true then you can tell yourself it isn't.

oh, good grief. Most of those grow on TREES, or bushes. Melons and grapes grow on vines, but, your silliness aside, "fruit of the vine" meant GRAPES back then.
History class, indeed.... been there, done that.

I just copied and pasted the whole list of fruits, you can do your own work in going thru the list and seperate the ones which grew on vines. Prove your own work.

it is as you say, none of us are 'as smart as we think'
therefore it was not at all ignorant, but in fact a very knowledgeable and wise thing to say -- and you are in error to rebuke me over it, clearly so, since you contradict your supposed rebuke with your own explanation.

but the saying is proven true: rebuke a scoffer, and get cursed for it; rebuke a wise man, and he will love you for it.

Well, James says that the man who doubts when he prays should not think that he should receive anything of the Lord. Do you believe that God answers any other prayers these days?

Trying to read teetotalerism into the Bible reminds me of KJV-onlyism.