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mailmandan

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Judges1318 said:
Not a chance.
You guys are bullies.
You just keep wondering......as if you really have too. <roll eyes>

Osas has to be taken out of the way so you and others can see what really counts and live it, instead of taking false comfort in your so-called knowledge, as if knowledge shows you know God, which it does not.
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Attacking OSAS has become an absolute obsession with you. :rolleyes: Continuously attacking the OSAS doctrine, along with insulting and telling off OSAS believers isn’t helping your case.
 
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Judges1318 said:
Not a chance.
You guys are bullies.
You just keep wondering......as if you really have too. <roll eyes>


Osas has to be taken out of the way so you and others can see what really counts and live it, instead of taking false comfort in your so-called knowledge, as if knowledge shows you know God, which it does not.
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OSAS does not preclude living 'it"
Again a false assumption based on your own bias.

Until you can examine the truth with unbiased eyes you will never "see" and that is the truth of the matter.
 
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Lightskin said:
So you are trying to earn God’s grace through obedience rather than through faith. On another note the myth that OSAS is a license to sin is exactly that, a myth.
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I want to clarify that my wording in the above post is incorrect. We don’t earn grace through faith. We never earn grace.
 
Lightskin

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mailmandan said:
Attacking OSAS has become an absolute obsession with you. :rolleyes: Continuously attacking the OSAS doctrine, along with insulting and telling off OSAS believers isn’t helping your case.
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Not only attacking OSAS but attacking with false accusations they we love to sin.
 
azamzimtoti

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Phoneman-777 said:
Trust is implied, is it not? Isn't faith defined as trusting in the unseen? John plainly says that if what we heard from the beginning remains in us, then we can continue in the Son and the Father. Math Science, Tech, Covenants, to name a few examples, are all governed by the "if/then" principle in which the demands of a condition must be met before a thing can be established...but when it comes to salvation, OSAS stubbornly refuses to recognize this principle.

In this case, the condition that must be met if we are to continue walking in God is that what we first heard remains in us..and if it ceases to remain in us, we will cease to walk with God - spiritual death. "He that hath not the Son hath not life."

BTW, the pilot analogy is an appropriate example. God is compared to many things in Scripture, is He not? Sower sowing seed, a Rich Man planting vineyards, a Husbandman hiring laborers, etc. No need to object with the "God is not a pilot" thing, right or wrong?
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Why art thou quoting me and another poster - are you still on one of those party phone lines?

I don't see how this post of yours addresses the bogus idea that Jesus started some sort of investigative judgment in 1844.
 
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It seems that it's a part human nature to want to payback for what someone has given us as a gift, as if we in are in debt somehow to the gift giver.
 
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azamzimtoti said:
Why art thou quoting me and another poster - are you still on one of those party phone lines?

I don't see how this post of yours addresses the bogus idea that Jesus started some sort of investigative judgment in 1844.
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Probably an error, that has happened to me on my phone where I have hit reply and changed my mind.... then if you hit reply on another post you will have both, unless you notice and delete it.

Party line...:D
 
walknlight

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azamzimtoti said:
It seems that it's a part human nature to want to payback for what someone has given us as a gift, as if we in are in debt somehow to the gift giver.
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Gal 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity to indulge your flesh, but through love serve one another.
Gal 5:14 For the whole law can be summed up in a single commandment, namely, “You must love your neighbor as yourself.”
Gal 5:15 However, if you continually bite and devour one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another.
Gal 5:16 But I say, live by the Spirit and you will not carry out the desires of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh has desires that are opposed to the Spirit, and the Spirit has desires that are opposed to the flesh, for these are in opposition to each other, so that you cannot do what you want.

sometimes I do what I hate....which is surely not of the Spirit...

example : I ride a 800 + pounds bike, Ever get cut off in traffic by someone on their phone and they act if if nothing happened?...?

I stumble....
 
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(Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.)

Do the workers think they have to busy themselves to keep the tap running? :unsure:
 
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azamzimtoti said:
(Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.)

Do the workers think they have to busy themselves to keep the tap running? :unsure:
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john 4: 3 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

John 6: 35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
 
miknik5

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You all should be ashamed of yourself...
Phoneman-777 said:
Oh yes, familiar with it. I think it's a clear case of someone that failed to "endure to the end". We're constantly admonished to "watch", "be sober", "occupy", "endure", "be vibilant", not "sleep", stay in the "light", etc. Such admonitions would be unnecessary, if there were no consequences for ignoring them.
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This is actually talking about someone who goes and beats and abuses his servants...that is it...and at the end, the love of many will grow cold. The believer who knows that it is by HIS SPIRIT alone, will refrain by acting in his own spirit and will wait and not grow tired of waiting.

This thread is no other than brother and sister attacking brother and sister. It already is a sign of disjointed body. Some who think they are wise will find they aren´t as wise as they thought they were...and the babies, who come in the last hour, will indeed by first....because they aren´t tainted by the heat of the day.

I know, you might not understand,,,,but in the end, the one who knows HIS MASTER, and understands HIS MASTER is the ONE over HIS HOUSE, will keep his eyes on HIS MASTER, and not on his brother and sister...

And if his eyes are on his brother and sister, it isn´t for their downfall...it is to protect them so that they do NOT fall...
 
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azamzimtoti said:
(Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.)

Do the workers think they have to busy themselves to keep the tap running? :unsure:
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if they have their oil, they won´t have to.
 
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miknik5 said:
You all should be ashamed of yourself...

This is actually talking about someone who goes and beats and abuses his servants...that is it...and at the end, the love of many will grow cold. The believer who knows that it is by HIS SPIRIT alone, will refrain by acting in his own spirit and will wait and not grow tired of waiting.

This thread is no other than brother and sister attacking brother and sister. It already is a sign of disjointed body. Some who think they are wise will find they aren´t as wise as they thought they were...and the babies, who come in the last hour, will indeed by first....because they aren´t tainted by the heat of the day.

I know, you might not understand,,,,but in the end, the one who knows HIS MASTER, and understands HIS MASTER is the ONE over HIS HOUSE, will keep his eyes on HIS MASTER, and not on his brother and sister...

And if his eyes are on his brother and sister, it isn´t for their downfall...it is to protect them so that they do NOT fall...
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let me ask you a question - if one sees clear false doctrine , then why is it wrong to call it out??

this " we all need to get along" thing is a very Christian seeming attitude , but it is not that way.

Paul was extremely angry when He wrote His letter to the Galatians, He used strong language .

I mean, I was slammed for calling out a member who says that those of us who go to church on sun. , we are really honoring and worshiping nimrod the sun god?

should that not be called out as garbage??
 
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gb9 said:
let me ask you a question - if one sees clear false doctrine , then why is it wrong to call it out??

this " we all need to get along" thing is a very Christian seeming attitude , but it is not that way.

Paul was extremely angry when He wrote His letter to the Galatians, He used strong language .
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Make sure you are scolding the right person who is truly guilty of the things the Galatians were doing...otherwise, you might want to review his letter to the Romans too....
 
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