Not By Works

My friend I like your name, are you originally from South Africa?

The law/Torah is a shadow of Christ to come if we can't see it then we are reading it wrong.

God is leaving us this thread of gold through the whole Bible and it is pointing to our Saviour every time. The Torah is shouting out Jesus, and we should search for Him in it.

Our Bible school motto is Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

We see ourselves as kings because we look for Christ in everything the Bible teach us, even the Torah.

God bless

I did explain why I said the law of Christ... my apology.

I think sometimes we are so in the moment and we forget we are speaking to people that have no reference to myself or what I am busy with. Because I see Christ in the Torah I say law of Christ.

What an interesting verse. It is happening right in front of our eyes my brother

I don't think you will see many on the forum not taking into account the old testament Gandalf:

"The law/Torah is a shadow of Christ to come if we can't see it then we are reading it wrong."

The new testament writings use and explain the prophecies.

(John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.)

Nobody will disagree with the above, but the application has to be correctly rendered otherwise our understanding is impaired.

(John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.)

The Jews knew the Torah and all the scriptures that were written, yet their application was in error.

The Jews are/were not in error because they are applying Torah wrong, they added to the Torah the Talmud and that is why Jesus said to them you are adding burdens that not even you can carry. The burden is Talmud not the law or Torah.

Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

The Tabernacle in the law is a shadow of God thrown room, and also the plan since the first second God created heaven and earth that Jesus would die on the cross.

Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

The Law is the shadow of Christ to come. It is in Bereshit (first word in the Bible), it is in the genealogies, in the Tabernacle, the brazen altar, and so we can go on and on and on. It is everywhere…

God bless

"Tools" cannot and are unable to maintain themselves.
Every "tool" has an operator that uses the tool to do the work....
The Operator does the work when that tool is used.
The tool can do nothing in and of itself
Those who are His are "tools" to fulfill His will.....Moved by God ,His Spirit.

Have no clue what god these others are referring to...
I know (experientially) My God is able.....and there is no condemnation for those in Him...

God Bless

Where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. That said, OSAS believers espouse exactly what Paul has, that children of God should not deliberately sin but rather strive to walk in a manner that is pleasing and glorifying to God by allowing the fruit of the Spirit to take hold and shine.

He called me,
I believed Him,
He chose me.

"through faith"
Don't leave that part out.
You need to know that part too.

In the Bible, believing God through His gracious gift of 'knowing' (a.k.a. faith) is never labeled a self righteous work that earns you salvation.

Everybody who is saved has been drawn.

'that it may go well with you'

Are you familiar with this phrase from the Bible?

Which is why we should continue to believe and not lose out on such a great and sure salvation.

I understand there are differences in word use in our various translations.
The point is, it is through one's faith that you have God's protection for the Day of Salvation when Jesus returns.
Stop having that faith and you no longer have God's protection for the Day of Salvation.

Then what's your beef with me?
I say you have to continue to believe in Christ to remain saved.
You say that's me trying to work for my salvation.
I said I want the scripture that says that.

Keep trusting in Christ.

I’ve already stated my case on numerous occasions; you simply refuse to acknowledge my biblically based views because you disagree with them.

You needing to remain a believer in order to be saved gives no regards to Jesus who does the actual saving.

No.
I disagree with your view because it is not Biblically based.

That is not a Biblically based belief.
Look here:

"you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you" - 1 Corinthians 15:2

Now, according to the above verse, if I do not hold fast the word am I still saved?

God is faithful even when we are not. 😊
Oh yeah, that’s Scripture. 😎

But he will deny you if you deny him.
Big difference between being faithless (like when you cheat on your taxes out of fear) and denying him outright in unbelief.

I at least give you and 11th hour credit for not denying that you are new osas adherents.
(Old osas says you were never really saved to begin with if you don't hold fast the word to the end).

What or where (area in your life) do you lack?

Why do you ask?

God is faithful even when we are not.
No buts. That’s straight forward Gospel.
Why don’t you ever celebrate God’s grace rather than always focusing on the negative. Who is your true master?