Virginia pastor who defiantly held church service dies of coronavirus

We read that: "The LORD's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down, and he died there beside the ark of God." (2 Samuel 6:7) It would appear that God is taking all of this very serious. Passover is all about putting the safety of our family under the Blood of Jesus.

He gambled and he lost. Most likely because he wanted people to honor him rather than to honor God. In all we do we should bring praise, honor and Glory to God and not to ourselves.

Obama was the one funding that research? Was Biden in charge of that?

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-complicated-origins.html

Twitter and utube have all but shut up anything outta sinc with NWO AGENDA.

It was usa funded.
Obama was/is a puppet for NWO PLAYERS.
....AS is half of america and 80%+- of politicians.

We would be owned by china by now were it not for trump.

These Nwo freaks are powerful with the propaganda machine.
Those on this forum so determined that the agenda move forward with a vaccine and shutdown insanity SAVING US are part of the destruction of the free world.

Now the precedent is set in stone. We will see more shut downs.

BUT REST ASSUREDLY OR GOV WILL SAVE US.
facepalm

Communism says "you can not have church,we will arrest you"
Usa gov says the same thing.

Some pastors cave

Some pastors read their bible where most did not.
Some pastors have passion,most do not.
Some pastors have faith,some do not
Some pastors can't be silenced,some can

The one in question seemed like a fighter...a man of God refusing to bow to a demon.

This is the example of the old school men of God.
They were fighters.
They refused the strong arm of the government.
Daniel DEFIED THEM. TO HIS OWN DETRIMENT.
THREE HEBREW CHILDREN AS WELL.
HEBREWS 11 IS THE HALL OF FAITH.
TOO MANY DEFIERS TO LIST
PILGRIMS PROGRESS...HE WROTE IT FROM PRISON.

THEY TELL THE APOSTLES..."WE COMMAND YOU TO STOP PREACHING..."
APOSTLES ..."GO FLY A KITE...YOU CAN'T STOP US"

ff to today
"Ok...gee we must obey the demon..sorry for any hint of resistance o great heathen government"
We will always comply.

""if I go out and about with the virus and infect people - or I go out and about and pick it up and bring it to my roomie who has plenty of health conditions - then I am reckless. ""

True

"" I have not necessarily seen many healing miracles. I know they happen - I know the Lord has healed me. But I also know that for the bigger part of my life I was very very sick without healing and I prayed every day for healing. And I had super "healers" pray over me and it did not work - and I would act on faith so much that I nearly died because I would stubbornly refuse to seek a doctor - because the "Symptoms" were not real.""

Yes indeed
That troubles me also.

But years ago the Lord showed me "the irrevocable prayer"
It is answered 100% of the time.
What we see now is that some of our prayers are not answered.
The irrevocable prayer brings a answer/miracle everytime.
It is always answered.

There is another prayer always answered.
Mat 18:18,19
It is combined with the parable of persistence(keep praying and knocking)
Some use one or the other with zero results.

Bottom line...without knowledge from heaven..we will remain in our ignorance.
IOW it is the H S that leads us to what we need to do,stop doing,and tweak what we know.

Those that are carnal nominal believers will see nominal power.
Those not committed...God will commit very little to.
Those without investment in the word,worship and grounded in faith knowledge will see such frustration when attempting to get a result from heaven.

No investment....equals no return.
It is a law from,in,and by heaven.

So...enter the man of God to pray for others. He stands in the gap and sees results.

Then he prays for a disobedient carnal believer.
Nothing happens.
He moves on to the next.

He proclaimed himself a Christian and so I'll simply call him a brother in Christ and not sit in judgment...I pray he is at peace and with our Lord.

This could very well be similar to the young man who went to the island that was an unreached area for the gospel recently. Where they said everyone had been killed that went there and he was foolish to try.

If the Lord laid it on his heart to do such a thing I can't say anything against it. I personally would just hold radio services and use all the creative outlets that we have available barring any firm leading.


It could have been judgement but it doesn't seem like it, far from it.

I tend to believe God is going to save one third of the people: "I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested." (Zechariah 13:9)

It could be that only 10% or a remnant actually represent God. "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." (James 3:1) "That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep." (1Cor 11:30)

We are in our fourth week using Zoom to video conference. We pray, we sing, the pastor preaches, and then we meet with people who live in our area, to talk about the sermon and our lives, and support one another.

And so far, not one person in our church has died. We had over 120 people, in our Zoom meeting. Normally we have up to 150. So, a few disabled people are not doing Zoom, and one or two elderly people who do not have computers. But they get phoned weekly by elders or volunteers.

I'm not seeing why some of these preachers can't use Zoom or other internet chat rooms to have church. I personally think that pastor was arrogant, thinking that it would be ok with God to have a service in defiance of the gov't, but also common sense!

The virus is not a hoax! My only question is as to whether China released it on purpose, or accidentally.

Now it would appear that he was wanting to draw attention to himself.

It looks like an accident waiting to happen. In 2014 they cut off funding for that research because it was to dangerous. Then in 2017 Frances Collins decided to give them their funding back again. They should have had level 4 safety precautions and they only had level 2. A lab technician was the first to get sick. It appears that they took it to the wet market and it spread to the world from there. The women responsable: Shi Zhengli (Bat Women) said the virus is: "nature punishing the human race for keeping uncivilised living habits." She actually went into the Yunnan Caves to bring that virus out to contaminate the world with it. The suggestion that the bats sold at the market had the virus was a part of the china government coverup.

Zhengli and Collins are both very respected people. Leaders in their field. Collins was hired by Obama but Trump let him keep his job. The money used to fund this research was approved by Trump. God is exposing people that we would never ever question. Trump cut off funding to the WHO because it looks like they were a part of the coverup. China grounded all flights from Wuhan to other cities in China but they did not ground international flights. So the virus was able to spread from Wuhan to the rest of the world. There is a move in China for democracy as they have been fed up with the China Gov.

I have talked to China students that are surprised that I know as much about their country as I do.

It's also ironic that so many pro lifers are against life saving Vaccines.

For it to be ironic for pro-lifers to be anti-vaccine, first you would have to demonstrate that vaccines have even saved one life. Then you would have to demonstrate how the ends justifies the means (as many vaccines utilise cells from murdered, unborn children).

As it stands, it's actually ironic than any pro-lifer would be pro-vaccine.

I'd like to see some actual proof that its utilizing these cells. If it's more conspiracy hype I have no reason to trust it. These vaccines never needed these cells in the past. Many have been around for decades I don't understand why they would it now.

It is not the vaccine people are against. It is the virologists that people have problems with. By their own admission they can not be trusted. Most Published Research Findings Are False https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

I did die when I got tired of messing around with the doctors. Either they revived me or God resurrected me. He basically told me to seek Divine Health so I do not have to go through the process of dying and be raised back up again.

I think by definition when your a Nobel laureate then you are no longer considered conspiracy hype. Coronavirus man-made in Wuhan lab, says Nobel laureate. https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2...an-made-in-wuhan-lab-says-nobel-laureate.html

and who says it was the virus that killed him, it may have been an underlying illness and the enemy falsely said it was the virus to control the population, particularly to put fear into the heart of the flock. I have stopped watching tv news here in Australia, way to many lies in 30 minutes for me to handle. I can actually sit there with my tablet and fact check there lies, they couldnt read the truth if there lives depended on it