I think I’m gay

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Magenta

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Hey Magenta, I just read your post on the serpent thread. Wow, that is interesting!

Now that I'm thinking about it, are we talking about the same couple and/or the same thread? Perhaps we are; the one I had in mind had to do with a story of a surprise attack in an alley. My memory is a bit fuzzy.
Suffice to say it is doubtful I have read every post of any particular poster - unless of course they only made a very few :)

I do not recall that particular story but that in itself means nothing :giggle::giggle::giggle:
 
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Stop your nonsense if you don't know then you are dealing with a lying seducing spirit , if you are same thing .. In the name of Jesus snap out of it and get away ..
Yesterday I went on a chat online and spoke with a guy called bob, I’m really confused is it wrong to be gay?
hi guys thanks for the replies. Just to clarify i was confused about being gay (I’m female) so went on a Christian chat and spoke to a guy called bob. He didn’t give clear answers and sent me a video called Jesus tattoo. I’m not trolling I just didn’t feel like typing the whole story. I’m confused whether being gay is wrong.
 

Mii

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hi guys thanks for the replies. Just to clarify i was confused about being gay (I’m female) so went on a Christian chat and spoke to a guy called bob. He didn’t give clear answers and sent me a video called Jesus tattoo. I’m not trolling I just didn’t feel like typing the whole story. I’m confused whether being gay is wrong.
Having thoughts isn't wrong the same way that having lustful thoughts isn't "wrong". Actions are against scripture.

Sitting around fantasizing would fall into a different category, but just having your own drive impact your thinking is natural up to a point.

Young males have many lustful thoughts straight or otherwise over their lives...as they continue to war against the flesh these things lessen over time as we gain self-control and obedience.

Take every thought captive

2nd Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;...and then I'd continue to read when you have taken that in.



Let's say someone has lustful thoughts about woman (as a man) and considers themselves straight but this is in opposition with holiness also. There is a certain idea floating around in the church (I feel) that adultery or "straight" sexual immorality is a lot better in the Lord's eyes than homosexuality. This is completely false. It is true they are different but they are still sin.

Sin ranking is incorrect thinking. There are distinctions in gravity vs "accidents" and willful sin but that's a different discussion.


If you have found lustful thoughts assailing your thinking to the point of convincing yourself that your orientation is somehow different just pray about it and talk to some people you know about it. I've had many thoughts about many different things sexually speaking...dreams also. Categories that are rarely discussed...I've only heard one sermon about a particular sexual sin mentioned in passing but I felt the Lord in it. He cares for the sinner and hates the sin...I heard when I was young before I even really knew what that was, but I did later.

I've heard many people be pretty insensitive when the preach/talk about homosexuality and just understand that there is a lot of hate propaganda out there that the Lord hates people that struggle with certain sins (their flesh)...That is a lie.

He wants you to be delivered, can and will do so if you turn toward him and lean on HIS strength and HIS righteousness. It's a battle for sure though. There's some pretty cool testimonies of people that have been led out of that and had their thinking reoriented. I'm not going to judge anyone for their flesh. Each person has been given different burdens to bear. You are NOT your flesh, but you do have to battle it daily. He does give rest though for sure :)
 

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Having thoughts isn't wrong the same way that having lustful thoughts isn't "wrong". Actions are against scripture.

Sitting around fantasizing would fall into a different category, but just having your own drive impact your thinking is natural up to a point.

Young males have many lustful thoughts straight or otherwise over their lives...as they continue to war against the flesh these things lessen over time as we gain self-control and obedience.

Take every thought captive

2nd Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;...and then I'd continue to read when you have taken that in.



Let's say someone has lustful thoughts about woman (as a man) and considers themselves straight but this is in opposition with holiness also. There is a certain idea floating around in the church (I feel) that adultery or "straight" sexual immorality is a lot better in the Lord's eyes than homosexuality. This is completely false. It is true they are different but they are still sin.

Sin ranking is incorrect thinking. There are distinctions in gravity vs "accidents" and willful sin but that's a different discussion.


If you have found lustful thoughts assailing your thinking to the point of convincing yourself that your orientation is somehow different just pray about it and talk to some people you know about it. I've had many thoughts about many different things sexually speaking...dreams also. Categories that are rarely discussed...I've only heard one sermon about a particular sexual sin mentioned in passing but I felt the Lord in it. He cares for the sinner and hates the sin...I heard when I was young before I even really knew what that was, but I did later.

I've heard many people be pretty insensitive when the preach/talk about homosexuality and just understand that there is a lot of hate propaganda out there that the Lord hates people that struggle with certain sins (their flesh)...That is a lie.

He wants you to be delivered, can and will do so if you turn toward him and lean on HIS strength and HIS righteousness. It's a battle for sure though. There's some pretty cool testimonies of people that have been led out of that and had their thinking reoriented. I'm not going to judge anyone for their flesh. Each person has been given different burdens to bear. You are NOT your flesh, but you do have to battle it daily. He does give rest though for sure :)
I recommend Purelife ministries for all men who struggle with sexual addiction
 

chanchuinchoy

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Yesterday I went on a chat online and spoke with a guy called bob, I’m really confused is it wrong to be gay?
Firstly, you might not be a guy because speaking to a same gender do not make you a gay/lesbian, could be bisexual also :D

Joke aside, personally, i believe that people born with sexually loving the same gender is not sinful or abnormal. It is just that God gives you a challenge to experience and overcome it (with His help if you are willing). When you have overcome it and help others to do so, your reward will be great in heaven. Thats my personal opinion.
 

CS1

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Firstly, you might not be a guy because speaking to a same gender do not make you a gay/lesbian, could be bisexual also :D

Joke aside, personally, i believe that people born with sexually loving the same gender is not sinful or abnormal. It is just that God gives you a challenge to experience and overcome it (with His help if you are willing). When you have overcome it and help others to do so, your reward will be great in heaven. Thats my personal opinion.
really ? You are going to promote a false narrative of a sexual perversion? And the word of God is the authority on the topic.

The idea that homosexuality or bisexual is a type of love, is a lie from the pit of hell. It is not, it is perversion and lust, and the lack of self-control; due to sexual addiction. No different than fornication or Crack. To call it love is deceit because it is not love at all. When personal opinion violates the word of God or Secular humanism replaces the Plan of God that is work of wickedness. Roman chapter one says it very well. Homosexuality is demonic ploy place in the world to mock the living God and to destroy man. That is all it has done.
 

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Hmmmm, ok I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure why it is relevant that bob sent you the movie or how the 2 are tied together...but

If we believe in the word of God, that every word is His inspired, then we need to come into agreement with the will of His. I am not saying it is wrong because of a personal opinion but God, the One who designed us for the opposite gender, does. He is very clear!!

I don't have this particular cross to bear. I am certain it is a burden. However, if you are indeed legit and seeking answers, might I suggest you take that particular question to Him.

Read the word, have an open and earnest heart to know Him. He is so much more than thou shalt and thou shalt not. Maybe....start in John. Talk to Him, believe in Him.

Seek Him first and all other things will be added. He loves you so very much and yearns to help you find peace, real sustainable peace, this world can not offer.

I will be lifting you in prayer, hoping He reveals His glory in your life.
 

chanchuinchoy

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really ? You are going to promote a false narrative of a sexual perversion? And the word of God is the authority on the topic.

The idea that homosexuality or bisexual is a type of love, is a lie from the pit of hell. It is not, it is perversion and lust, and the lack of self-control; due to sexual addiction. No different than fornication or Crack. To call it love is deceit because it is not love at all. When personal opinion violates the word of God or Secular humanism replaces the Plan of God that is work of wickedness. Roman chapter one says it very well. Homosexuality is demonic ploy place in the world to mock the living God and to destroy man. That is all it has done.
I really dont believe that you are innocent on this subject. I heard this when i was a teenager...ie european countries are propaganda human rights, gay/lesbian/bi-sexual rights to live and later even marriage, isnt this strictly forbidden in the bible?
 

chanchuinchoy

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really ? You are going to promote a false narrative of a sexual perversion? And the word of God is the authority on the topic.

The idea that homosexuality or bisexual is a type of love, is a lie from the pit of hell. It is not, it is perversion and lust, and the lack of self-control; due to sexual addiction. No different than fornication or Crack. To call it love is deceit because it is not love at all. When personal opinion violates the word of God or Secular humanism replaces the Plan of God that is work of wickedness. Roman chapter one says it very well. Homosexuality is demonic ploy place in the world to mock the living God and to destroy man. That is all it has done.

I reall dont believe hat ou are ignorant on this subject. I heard this when I was a teenager....ie european countries are propaganda human rights, and gay/lesbian/bi-sexual rights to live and later even marriage, isnt this strictly forbidden in the bible as you have said?
 

CS1

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what one believes or my innocence or lack thereof does not dismiss 'Truth". If I was not innocence than I too would be held accountable to the Word of God. I do not justify my sin by pointing at another sin. Your point is unfounded in truth. Gods plan for marriage is found in Genesis 2:24 One man and one women. That is it. Jesus also said it again in Matthew.
 

bojack

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hi guys thanks for the replies. Just to clarify i was confused about being gay (I’m female) so went on a Christian chat and spoke to a guy called bob. He didn’t give clear answers and sent me a video called Jesus tattoo. I’m not trolling I just didn’t feel like typing the whole story. I’m confused whether being gay is wrong.
Hi Sis, With all love and compassion sincerely in Jesus name ..
I don't care personally and don't like to sound judgmental but if some one asks, I say what I know ..
If some one is or tells me they are then I must act accordingly which limits our conversation to pretty much Jesus only or either pure work business only...
If I don't know then I assume they're not and can speak the word freely as usual ..
I'm still working on my own shortcomings and working out my own salvation with fear and trembling with Jesus as author of my salvation ..
I do think being sexually attracted to the same sex is caused by a demonic spirit or abused by someone demonic oppressed or possessed at some point ..

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 

bojack

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The more Jesus in a person the more beautiful a person they are ..
I've never saw any man I wanted to touch unless it was to ring his neck
I've never ever seen a woman in my life that wasn't beautiful that acted feminine with Jesus .. I fell in love with Ruth and I know exactly how Boaz felt .. We have a few Ruth's on CC
 
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hi guys thanks for the replies. Just to clarify i was confused about being gay (I’m female) so went on a Christian chat and spoke to a guy called bob. He didn’t give clear answers and sent me a video called Jesus tattoo. I’m not trolling I just didn’t feel like typing the whole story. I’m confused whether being gay is wrong.
I will recommend one piece of advice and please take it to heart. If you want answers to questions don't go making conversations with strange people over the internet and this "Bob" character is one that i would purely avoid. Get into the scriptures and find answers there. Now, the people here that have used scripture to back up their claims take those seriously by looking it up in the bible and study it yourself. The bible talks very clearly about false prophets that will lead you astray and this "Bob" sounds like one of them and I would hate to see someone get hurt or be given wrong advice over a serious issue.
 
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Yesterday I went on a chat online and spoke with a guy called bob, I’m really confused is it wrong to be gay?[/QUOTE

Here is the bibles answer to your question, thus this is Gods answer to your question:

Lev 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. NKJV

Lev 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. NKJV

Rom 1:18-32
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man -- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. NKJV

1 Cor 6:8-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. NKJV

1 Cor 6:8-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. NKJV

1 Tim 1:8-11
8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust. NKJV

so in answer to your question: YES it is wrong to be a homosexual! God only gives two options to gays:
!. repent, and be born again and thus delivered from homosexual desires.
2. to be executed by the government if they will not repent.

The genome project completed in 1999, proves that there are no genes that caused someone to be a homosexual. thus science has proven that no one is born a homosexual! People become homosexuals for many reasons. (being molested as a kid, not having dads raise them with love, etc.) there are demons associated with this perversion as well. but there is no one who is a homosexual because they were born that way!

One homsexual back in the 1970s repented, got born again, and got baptised in the holy spirit. God gave him a powerful healing ministry! This is something i pray will happen to all homosexuals: as i do not want to see anyone go to Hell, and if they do not repent, that is where they will end up! So i pray for their salvation on a regular basis. and preach the gospel to them whenever i come into contact with one.

I hope that this is helpful!

have a great day.

David
 
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Hi, I just want to clarify something else. Bob is a guy I spoke to on a Christian helpline. If you’re all in consensus that it’s wrong what should I do about it?
 

notuptome

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Hi, I just want to clarify something else. Bob is a guy I spoke to on a Christian helpline. If you’re all in consensus that it’s wrong what should I do about it?
When confronted with a situation in which one's actions are wrong according to the bible there is only one solution. Repent and obey God's word or continue in sin and suffer the consequences. Okay two actions but one is obviously not good.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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When confronted with a situation in which one's actions are wrong according to the bible there is only one solution. Repent and obey God's word or continue in sin and suffer the consequences. Okay two actions but one is obviously not good.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
how will repenting stop me liking girls though?
 

Billyd

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Yesterday I went on a chat online and spoke with a guy called bob, I’m really confused is it wrong to be gay?
Yes it is wrong to be gay. You are not Gay! Stay away from those who are or say that you are.
 
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