The Purpose of Speaking in Tongues

By yourself, by yourself, by yourself, edifying yourself .

more senseless attacks or once character. The Holy Spirit Never stopped do this. Jesus said the Holy Spirit will be with you and IN YOU John 14:17.

God or does endure yet even if there was no Bible HIS word would Continue. This why you are unlearned. And prideful.

Let me clarify... What I'd just said is not a lessening of the actual value of the bible. It simply proves that the bible can't be the "that which is perfect" mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13:10. Because, if the last words of Revelation were the last words needed to complete "that which is perfect", then "the bible" was NOT a necessary component of perfection because for 300 YEARS after Revelation was written there were ZERO BIBLES.

I will be praying for you because I know it could be difficult to adjust to that reality and I am for you, not against you.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

It is very likely that Paul was drawing off of the Jewish religious custom and tradition (earliest “documentation” of this tradition may be found in Nehemiah 8 concerning ‘Ezra the Scribe’), whereby it was customary to have any readings, prayers, instruction, etc. given first in the Hebrew language, despite the fact virtually no one listening understood it. As soon as a few phrases were uttered, a reader standing next to the teacher would translate what was being said into the vernacular. This custom was carried to the early Christian church.

Maimonides, a renown 12th century Rabbi, scholar, and physician (considered one of the most influential and revered Jewish thinkers in the Middle Ages) also commented on this tradition. One if his comments is:

“From the time of Ezra, it was customary that a translator would translate to the people the [passages] read by the reader from the Torah, so that they would understand the subject matter. The office of the interpreter in Jewish liturgy.”

The Aramaic word for interpreter in the Talmud Megillah and commentaries associated with it is מתרגם meturgem in the singular and מתרגמין meturgemin in the plural. The plural is used more often.

In English this office is called the “meturgeman”. The interpreter had twofold usage as described by a Torah website:

"There were two types of Merturgemans (translators/interpreters). The first is the kind who stood by the Torah reader in the synagogue and translated into Aramaic as the reader read, verse by verse. It is mentioned dozens of times in the Talmud; once the Jews were exiled to Babylon, their vernacular was Aramaic – only the scholars and elders spoke or understood Hebrew. Thus, to make Torah reading understandable, it was translated.

In the same way, the Meturgeman would also sit by the Rabbi in the synagogue or the study hall. When the Rabbi would share words of Torah with the congregation or with his students, he would speak quietly in Hebrew and the translator would repeat his words in Aramaic."

Translating from one language to another, particularly the nuances of religious text and subject matter is no easy task. Indeed, Paul it’s very likely this concept is what Paul meant when he refers to the ‘gift of interpretation’.

The interpreter may not be the only individual in a given situation who knows the language of the speaker, but he’s typically the only one who has the ability to accurately translate what’s being said into the vernacular.

The point is in the first century Jewish world, religious service, readings, teaching, etc. particularly when done from a Temple (and especially from the Temple in Jerusalem), by historic custom and tradition were to be done *first* in Hebrew, then followed by translations into the vernacular – in short, Hebrew was the _expected language to be heard first_ . The apostles at Pentecost completely did away with this tradition and just began to speak to the crowd in the vernacular, dispensing with Hebrew altogether.

can anyone explain the one that "interprets" the message? is the interpreter the only one that understands the message?

speaking in tongues is one way of praying and in no way is it mandatory.

we have to ask ourselves, will God kill us if we don't pray in tongues !

The purpose of speaking in tongues is so that 'pastors' of places like Hillsong and C3 can convince you that they're men of faith and that you should give them your money

Funny how God has chosen only certain types of churches for constantly speaking in tongues...

So speaking in tongues definitely means speaking in an understandable foreign language? Of my friends who speak in tongues, they have said that it "kind of" sounds like Arabic, and another one Japanese. One of them started speaking in tongues in front of me while driving, I could not understand what she was saying but I do not doubt her sincerity nor am I able to doubt that she has that gift from the Holy Spirit. But I do get the sense from people who speak in tongues that they believe that they are more mature Christians, and that they have a more special relationship with the Holy Spirit.

Also, why are some people able to speak in tongues but others can't? It also does not seem to be given on an individual basis, rather on a group basis (Pentecostal and charismatic). Seems like either the whole church can, or they can't.

Have you ever seen a beggar and tried to ignore them until the Holy Spirit made you feel guilty you went back to give?
And not just give, but when you took your money out, there was a number suddenly in your head in what to give.
This is no different then the Holy Spirit using someone to interpret.

Btw, that we have today the praying in tongue movement is no proof for an working of the Holy Spirit. But this was not the theme of the OP.

with respect biker, this is nothing like the spirit leading you. back in the middle ages roman councils launched crusades against villiges full of innocent women and children, the councils claimed they were lead by the spirit and therefore you were not allowed to question their authority. you really think the spirit was sent so it could be used by one person to manipulate another?

NO, when Jesus was headed back to Jerusalem to be crucified, He sent a couple Disciples to get a place to spend the night. They had room but refused saying there was no room. John and James said to Jesus, we know they are lying, lets bring fire down from heaven like Elijah upon them and kill them. Jesus rebuked both and said, I did not come to kill humanity but to save it.

I said that to say this, anyone using the phrase the Holy Spirit told us to kill people is an outright lie from the pits of hell!

but it doesnt have to be killing people, it could be anything, how would you know they are really getting a message from the heavens and not just making it up as they go?

but it doesnt have to be killing people, it could be anything,