the kingdom of satan

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I happen to have a history with this one. My mother used to take us kid's to mass
every Sunday. She taught us that Jesus died for us. And the kid stuff like "Noah's ark",
The ten commandment's,( Moses). Anyway I never really understood until one Easter Sunday
morning, I woke up very early to get my Easter basket.( At the time , we only had 3 t.v. channels)
and this was on. I did not realized that Jesus died that way! I was 6 or 7, I got it. Jesus was
persecuted
for our sins. Taught us a new way of life. " Love one another, as I have loved You" That was a profound statement to a 7 yr, old grasp,.I go to Mass every Sunday and this is why. Jesus was the King of the world! How could you not follow Him. It's a tradition , we watch it every year. I don't know ,It makes me grounded in a way. My way of thinking about Christ has'nt change...



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1 Cor. 13:11-12
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
 

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Here are some I thought of, this morning:
Rom 11:7-9

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:
KJV

Rom 3:29-30

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
KJV

John 3:3 ESV
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Romans 10:9-13 ESV
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Romans 3:23-24 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
John 8:24 ESV
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
1 Cor 1:21

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
KJV

Matt 7:13-14

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
KJV
 

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If not mistaken he was referring unto whosoever commits sin were the children of the devil.

30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
John 8

In particular to their response that they be Abraham's seed.

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

But whosoever commits sin being of the devil is also repeated in 1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
But we all sin - there isn't any person on earth who does not sin.
Rom 3:23-24

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus
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As verse 24 shows, forgiveness of sins is achieved only through the forgiveness that Christ's death on the cross provides. And this forgiveness of sin is not given to the whole world - otherwise no one would go to hell. But the Bible clearly says that many will go to hell.
Matt 7:14

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
KJV
Rev 20:15

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV
Also read in Matthew 25, how many "goats" thought they were God's "sheep", but on Judgement day - were sadly surprised to find that they were "goats" in God's sight, and to be thrown into hell.
 
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He [Jesus] knew what they were thinking and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. If satan casts out satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand?" (Matthew 12:25,26).

satan has no kingdom whatsoever today. He was totally defeated by Jesus at Calvary's cross, and is now bound in the pit. The ‘I will give you all these kingdoms’ offer he made to Jesus at the temptation was something he was not in a position to make. The kingdoms were never his to give in the first place.
 

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1 Cor. 13:11-12
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
But do you pray to saints, as Catholics are known to do? The Bible forbids praying to anyone except to God.
Matt 4:10

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
KJV
I am glad that you came to learn about Jesus' sacrifice on Calvary. But I pray and hope you come to learn all you need to know in order to make sure you have been saved by Jesus and are headed to heaven. It is unsafe to fail to not make sure. Do you yet understand that Jesus was God come down in the form of human flesh? It is important, according to the Bible, to understand and accept the deity of Christ. Have you yet accepted Jesus as Lord (God) and Savior of your life, yet? I mean did you pray and ask HIm to become that for you?
 
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the whole entertainment industry belongs to satan, it can never be good, in any context, or form. those who form it have sold their souls for success, and we fall into their traps because satan is desirable. the whole market, all the products belong to satan, the bar code is the mark of the beast 666. nobody can sell, buy without that bar code. people have sold their soul for little things.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (Revelation 13:16-17)
that bar code represents, in a way, the modern, smart man. we are at the threshold where we were promised that we will become like God, artificial intelligence, robots are an important step. who promised us that we would become wise like God? satan. it doesn't mean that God wants us to be fools, no, he wants us like angels.
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. (Revelation 13:14-15)
the TV is the icon of the beast. it is about the survival of the fittest. the internet has the same purpose. i never felt that if you do not worship the TV, someone will kill you, but it is clear that we, the weak, are the prey of the tough ones, that is what the TV "teaches" us. we all believe that the winner takes everything, the loser takes nothing. do not forget that satan wants to kill us, do not be worried because God will provide everything we need. this is the life, we have a kingdom with all kinds of things, and everyone chooses what they like, but addictiveness, greed, success, adultery, killings (for food) do not belong to God, if you want them you must worship satan. any man can sell his soul to the devil for anything, but the price to pay is huge.
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Mark 8:36)
the killings for food will cease someday, but now it is allowed, as long as we are not aware that to not kill is a commandment. God gave us permission to eat meat, but my opinion is this: it's tricky. if everything is bad, what does God give us then? God gives us peace, joy, love.
I agree with you that any sector that has the ability to influence public opinion will do that. The powers that be have an agenda and have consolidated so much power into a handful of entities that they act as gatekeepers to information. The television market is cornered; there's no realistic way to compete with the mega-giants who already control the narrative of the airwaves. The Internet is still, more or less, free in Western societies but that appears to be slowly changing.

Your best tool to equip yourself with in this is the sword of truth. If you already have the word of God then you are fine and will be able to discern fact from fiction. Electronic copies of the Bible won't always exist, I believe, at least not freely available on the Internet. Make sure you have multiple paper copies and other literature for personal use and for distribution.
 

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So the "Old Testament " is dead????
Yes, it is in the matter of attainment of salvation. All saints who sincerely served God under the Old Covenant (Old Testament) have been saved through Jesus, though they didn't understand fully everything about Him. But at least, they knew that they were saved through the sacrifices they made to cover their sins. And those sacrifices symbolically pictured Jesus as being the sacrifice for sins. But under the New Covenant that came into being, as a result of Jesus' death on the cross for the world's sins - people are required to recognize Jesus as having been God come in the flesh. If they only think He was a good man, they aren't saved yet. Notice how John's disciples were required to be re-baptized, due to their only understanding the forgiveness of sins - but not yet recognizing Jesus as God, or God's Spirit, as being another part of the one and only true God there is?
Acts 19:3-5

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
KJV
The book of Hebrews is very helpful for explaining the reason for the change of Covenants and why.
Heb 8:7

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
KJV
 
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I just want to say, look at how the California National Guard took a knee on Tuesday, June 2, 2020. My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, taking a knee, is kneeling to the beast. It is the gathering together by Satan of the whole world, saying there is no wrong and no right, that everyone is equal, and that we are all one people - what you can't see now - against God (if you take a knee). The Lord Jesus Christ specifically explained to you, praise God, that there are two types of people in the world, Matthew 13:24-30, 37-43.

So this taking a knee, as it appears voluntary now, is Satan forcing people to worship him, if not, take the stain of not doing it now, in being labeled as a racist, homophobe, anti-science, and on and on, with all of the lies Satan is running here in the world now, and later the guillotine (Daniel 7:21, Revelation 20:4), as the false prophet will begin beheading Christians for not worshipping the image of the beast (Revelation 13:15).

Remember, your faith in Jesus Christ is what will save your souls. That is what Satan is after. That is his ultimate goal (Revelation 12:17). If you deny Jesus Christ, you will go to hell.

This politicization of the military/police is the slipping further and further into all of humanity being deceived by the devil and you should be extremely aware of what is happening now. As Christians, know that the time is extremely short. You need to be ready to give your life, at all times, from here on out. Pray that God strengthens your faith, in who Jesus Christ is, and what he has done for you, how he lives in you, and where you are going through him. Jesus loves you, and will be with you through it all. Stay with him. Don't give up, and know that very soon, the seventh trumpet will sound (1 Corinthians 15:52, 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Revelation 11:15), Jesus will appear in the clouds, and then we will be with him forever and ever.

But my brothers and sisters, it is only going to get worse from here on out, a lot worse. Do not depend on a rapture because that is a lie from the pit of hell. The church will go through the tribulation (Matthew 16:18, 1 Peter 4:17).

What is happening is the truth. Immediately after Jesus ascended into heaven, war broke out in heaven (Revelation 12:7,8), and Satan was cast down to the world (Revelation 12:9). He has not been back to heaven since, nor can he go back, and knows that his time is extremely short, and that he is on his way out (John 12:31), to the bottomless pit for 1,000 years, and everything is happening exactly how it is written in Revelation that it will happen.

And if you are not born again, give your life to Jesus Christ now, today, and remain in him forever (2 Corinthians 6:2, Revelation 6:11). Read Romans 10:9, do what it says, and you will be born again from John 3:3,5, and then stay in that salvation forever (Luke 13:24). Stay in the love of Jesus Christ forever. Jesus is love. And his love will protect you from all of the fiery darts of the enemy. Continue on in his love.

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. John 15:9
 

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I just want to say, look at how the California National Guard took a knee on Tuesday, June 2, 2020. My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, taking a knee, is kneeling to the beast. It is the gathering together by Satan of the whole world, saying there is no wrong and no right, that everyone is equal, and that we are all one people - what you can't see now - against God (if you take a knee). The Lord Jesus Christ specifically explained to you, praise God, that there are two types of people in the world, Matthew 13:24-30, 37-43.

So this taking a knee, as it appears voluntary now, is Satan forcing people to worship him, if not, take the stain of not doing it now, in being labeled as a racist, homophobe, anti-science, and on and on, with all of the lies Satan is running here in the world now, and later the guillotine (Daniel 7:21, Revelation 20:4), as the false prophet will begin beheading Christians for not worshipping the image of the beast (Revelation 13:15).

Remember, your faith in Jesus Christ is what will save your souls. That is what Satan is after. That is his ultimate goal (Revelation 12:17). If you deny Jesus Christ, you will go to hell.

This politicization of the military/police is the slipping further and further into all of humanity being deceived by the devil and you should be extremely aware of what is happening now. As Christians, know that the time is extremely short. You need to be ready to give your life, at all times, from here on out. Pray that God strengthens your faith, in who Jesus Christ is, and what he has done for you, how he lives in you, and where you are going through him. Jesus loves you, and will be with you through it all. Stay with him. Don't give up, and know that very soon, the seventh trumpet will sound (1 Corinthians 15:52, 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Revelation 11:15), Jesus will appear in the clouds, and then we will be with him forever and ever.

But my brothers and sisters, it is only going to get worse from here on out, a lot worse. Do not depend on a rapture because that is a lie from the pit of hell. The church will go through the tribulation (Matthew 16:18, 1 Peter 4:17).

What is happening is the truth. Immediately after Jesus ascended into heaven, war broke out in heaven (Revelation 12:7,8), and Satan was cast down to the world (Revelation 12:9). He has not been back to heaven since, nor can he go back, and knows that his time is extremely short, and that he is on his way out (John 12:31), to the bottomless pit for 1,000 years, and everything is happening exactly how it is written in Revelation that it will happen.

And if you are not born again, give your life to Jesus Christ now, today, and remain in him forever (2 Corinthians 6:2, Revelation 6:11). Read Romans 10:9, do what it says, and you will be born again from John 3:3,5, and then stay in that salvation forever (Luke 13:24). Stay in the love of Jesus Christ forever. Jesus is love. And his love will protect you from all of the fiery darts of the enemy. Continue on in his love.

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. John 15:9
Yes, it's so important to have accepted Jesus as Lord (God) and Saviour of one's life. There's nothing so important as that! You're right - the Bible doesn't say Christians will be taken to heaven before the anti-christ shows up. Jesus said there will be many anti-christs. And that there will also be one close to the very end of the world, who'll be a one-world ruler. Sounds like a very bad time in which to live, as Christians will suffer persecution. But still, God has a purpose for all Christians' lives - both throughout the hard times and throughout the easier times. And we are to seek to please HIm well and work hard for Him in this life. This life is short but eternity is long!
 

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The reason that sticks in my brain is because I had just read a book, (I think it was by George Orwell)
"1984" it was all about this!.When I read about this "chip" that the banks were working on It scared the hell out of me! Now, year's later you are correlating this to the bible. Don't know what to think. One
thing is for sure. I will die before I ever let this happen to me or my loved one's.
Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices or marks such as computer chips or anything similar, and there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort, or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched or chiseled there. The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise the actions anyone takes and the things we do and what we serve with our hands.
 
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Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices or marks such as computer chips or anything similar, and there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort, or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched or chiseled there. The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise the actions anyone takes and the things we do and what we serve with our hands.
Hey Magenta,
The reason I would never allow this is that one swipe of your hand or what ever. "Big brother "know's" and is watching. Lol...
 

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Hey Magenta,
The reason I would never allow this is that one swipe of your hand or what ever. "Big brother "know's" and is watching. Lol...
...yes, and will track your every move. Probably can track your conversations too because, after all, the chip is a communication device.
 
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...yes, and will track your every move. Probably can track your conversations too because, after all, the chip is a communication device.
Just like the police can track every phone call and text you made. I hate that! Talk about invasion
of privacy! I know this to be fact. I was involved in an incident with a mechanic about a repair. And they had access to our texts.(which actually worked out for me)... But anyhow...
 

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Hey Magenta,
The reason I would never allow this is that one swipe of your hand or what ever. "Big brother "know's" and is watching. Lol...
I get it :) Even the push to have everything be electronic/online is disturbing to me.

Have you seen The Great Hack? It is about Fakebook actually, and the analytics company they hired to gather and parse info on people so they can not only be targeted for ads, but also manipulated by controlling the info they are "fed" or deliberately exposed to. The Great Hack was so information dense I could not absorb it all, and I may have to revisit it, but even if you are not on fakebook, just being online, everyone has data being compiled on them, especially by google. The number given was a minimum of 5,000 bits of info. Not electronic style bits (or bytes ;):D), but bits of personal info. Some people say they have nothing to hide, but that is very much beside the point. Scams and identity theft abound online and not only that, look at how quickly what is considered an acceptable worldview has changed, and the intolerance and violence that is perpetrated against those who disagree with the "mainstream."

Ugh, and we are almost forced to put our info out there, too. Everything is moving online: we are expected to have devices to do the most mundane things now, everyone wants to know your email address, even when you shop somewhere (not that I have done that for a while, gosh I miss it LOL), just about anywhere, they ask for it. And this COVID thing with lay offs, all our applications for financial relief were online; we had to provide the most sensitive info, like driver's licence, birth certificate, social insurance numbers, tax info and earnings, in our applications for various things, knowing that none of it is safe or private any more since it becomes vulnerable to hackers and/or information gatherers. One of the crazy making things about it is they will give a phone number online, but if you call it they tell you to go to some address online to get info and/or apply :oops:

Yes I am concerned about where the world is heading :censored::cry:
Totalitarianism is not attractive to this old hippie :whistle::geek::devilish:


Matt for Jesus posted this in another thread today. I have only seen
half of it but wow! I would say, well worth waching the whole thing :D



:)
 

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I like watching Alton Brown on food Network.
Is he satanic too?
 

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Just like the police can track every phone call and text you made. I hate that! Talk about invasion
of privacy! I know this to be fact. I was involved in an incident with a mechanic about a repair. And they had access to our texts.(which actually worked out for me)... But anyhow...
Don't forget that they can track every post you make on websites too. :unsure:

For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Luke 8:17
 
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Don't forget that they can track every post you make on websites too. :unsure:

For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Luke 8:17
Yeah, I had to make that decision whether or not I wanted everyone to see. I knew that was going to occur when I got on the internet. Everyone know's your business. Lol...
 
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I get it :) Even the push to have everything be electronic/online is disturbing to me.

Have you seen The Great Hack? It is about Fakebook actually, and the analytics company they hired to gather and parse info on people so they can not only be targeted for ads, but also manipulated by controlling the info they are "fed" or deliberately exposed to. The Great Hack was so information dense I could not absorb it all, and I may have to revisit it, but even if you are not on fakebook, just being online, everyone has data being compiled on them, especially by google. The number given was a minimum of 5,000 bits of info. Not electronic style bits (or bytes ;):D), but bits of personal info. Some people say they have nothing to hide, but that is very much beside the point. Scams and identity theft abound online and not only that, look at how quickly what is considered an acceptable worldview has changed, and the intolerance and violence that is perpetrated against those who disagree with the "mainstream."

Ugh, and we are almost forced to put our info out there, too. Everything is moving online: we are expected to have devices to do the most mundane things now, everyone wants to know your email address, even when you shop somewhere (not that I have done that for a while, gosh I miss it LOL), just about anywhere, they ask for it. And this COVID thing with lay offs, all our applications for financial relief were online; we had to provide the most sensitive info, like driver's licence, birth certificate, social insurance numbers, tax info and earnings, in our applications for various things, knowing that none of it is safe or private any more since it becomes vulnerable to hackers and/or information gatherers. One of the crazy making things about it is they will give a phone number online, but if you call it they tell you to go to some address online to get info and/or apply :oops:

Yes I am concerned about where the world is heading :censored::cry:
Totalitarianism is not attractive to this old hippie :whistle::geek::devilish:


Matt for Jesus posted this in another thread today. I have only seen
half of it but wow! I would say, well worth waching the whole thing :D



:)
The gov. is the only entity that I would give that info to.And as far as credit fraud. I was'nt worried about that. I don't have anything out their that they can take. Lol. And I've made it very difficult for anyone to get into my banking info. Most important. To me. And I think that this is new but when you interview for a job. you have to give them access to your credit history, That's B.S. what does that have to do with a person's abilities or to be over qualified. They make it harder and harder for a person to earn a decent living. It's sad...
 

Magenta

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The gov. is the only entity that I would give that info to.And as far as credit fraud. I was'nt worried about that. I don't have anything out their that they can take. Lol. And I've made it very difficult for anyone to get into my banking info. Most important. To me. And I think that this is new but when you interview for a job. you have to give them access to your credit history, That's B.S. what does that have to do with a person's abilities or to be over qualified. They make it harder and harder for a person to earn a decent living. It's sad...
Yes, it was governmental applications, but just putting that info online is bothersome. I do not shop online, but my daughter does :oops: