Catholicism vs Protestantism
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You have to follow the history and read the prophesy.
The first and second beast worked in tandem. The Roman Catholic Church Served the State (Roman Empire).
But then there was a separation of East and west Catholic Church.
So the Eastern Orthodox church (one horn of the 2nd beast) served the Eastern Roman empire until it's fall in 1204.
The western Latin Roman Church broke away from the Eastern Roman Empire and worked in tandem with the Holy Roman Empire.
Here is a depiction of what it looked like in the middle ages
Eastern Roman Empire (1st beast) + Eastern Orthoxdox Catholic Church (2nd beast)
Holy Roman Empire (1st beast) + Western Roman Catholic Church (2nd beast)
The first and second beast worked in tandem. The Roman Catholic Church Served the State (Roman Empire).
But then there was a separation of East and west Catholic Church.
So the Eastern Orthodox church (one horn of the 2nd beast) served the Eastern Roman empire until it's fall in 1204.
The western Latin Roman Church broke away from the Eastern Roman Empire and worked in tandem with the Holy Roman Empire.
Here is a depiction of what it looked like in the middle ages
Eastern Roman Empire (1st beast) + Eastern Orthoxdox Catholic Church (2nd beast)
Holy Roman Empire (1st beast) + Western Roman Catholic Church (2nd beast)
So if you believe the Pope is antichrist who are the Saints that are persecuted by him?
The Pope will buddy up with antichrist and then Christ will come and defeat them?
If antichrist comes and attacks the Catholic Church many will see their scriptures fulfilled and think Christ has returned?
You will be in league with those who don't believe in the Trinity.
The Pope will buddy up with antichrist and then Christ will come and defeat them?
If antichrist comes and attacks the Catholic Church many will see their scriptures fulfilled and think Christ has returned?
You will be in league with those who don't believe in the Trinity.
I would not say "about the same" at all. For starters, the Jewish religious leaders could read. Mohammed could not. He re-visioned God's plan for the Messiah to come through Issac's line, claiming Ishmael was the child of promise, and puts himself in the place of Christ as Ishmael's descendant. Meanwhile the Jews are still setting table for Elijah at their Passover meals, awaiting the coming of their Messiah.
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So the first beast rule to 1204
And second beast rule to 1054
First beast end 1204 , second beast start 330
Than you say split at 1054. Is that mean second beast end when It split?
Daniel 9
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[k]”[l]
When this verse happen?
And second beast rule to 1054
First beast end 1204 , second beast start 330
Than you say split at 1054. Is that mean second beast end when It split?
Daniel 9
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[k]”[l]
When this verse happen?
Rome doesn't meet the scriptural requirements of the harlot anyway. That idea is based upon nothing but the Protestant/Catholic feud and is a product of hate. Christian cults like 7th Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses teach it - why should anyone I listen to such deceived churches?
This fable of the centricity of the Western world in biblical prophecy is a distraction from the real beast empire which was & will be rising from the East. Just as is consistent with all of scripture.
This fable of the centricity of the Western world in biblical prophecy is a distraction from the real beast empire which was & will be rising from the East. Just as is consistent with all of scripture.
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I don't know about you, but I believe what Jesus say about jews
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Jesus say to this jews group, they don't believe what Moses wrote > don't believe torah> mean don't believe the real author of torah/true God
So because Jesus never Lie, I believe this group of jews that don't believe in Jesus, don't believe true God
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Jesus say to this jews group, they don't believe what Moses wrote > don't believe torah> mean don't believe the real author of torah/true God
So because Jesus never Lie, I believe this group of jews that don't believe in Jesus, don't believe true God
I agree with you oN this part brother
Ccc 841
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
I think we agree true God is trinity don't you
Muslim....together with us adore the one merciful God
Mean muslim worship trinity God
I am from muslim country, I know muslim hate trinity God. Please read quran
Chapter (17) sūrat l-isrā (The Night Journey)
Sahih International: And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification."
Ccc 841
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
I think we agree true God is trinity don't you
Muslim....together with us adore the one merciful God
Mean muslim worship trinity God
I am from muslim country, I know muslim hate trinity God. Please read quran
Chapter (17) sūrat l-isrā (The Night Journey)
Sahih International: And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification."
- Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him].
— Quran, surah 23 (Al-Mumenoon), ayat 91[7]
I found it in the second link
423 By the heart we believe and by the mouth we confess the one Church, not of heretics but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic (Church) outside which we believe that no one is saved.
https://sensusfidelium.us/the-sourc...durand-of-osca-and-his-waldensian-companions/
I remember reading about the Waldensians in a book called "the name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco.
well, Muslims think they are worshipping the true God, who they think is not a trinity.
so again, like you say, we have to calculate the end result, not interprate letter by letter.
I think that to be fair, if one is going to read the scriptures with a loose interpretation, then one would also read everything else with a loose interpretation.
otherwise, I think a person would be using "unequal weights", which the Bible says God doesn't like.
so again, like you say, we have to calculate the end result, not interprate letter by letter.
I think that to be fair, if one is going to read the scriptures with a loose interpretation, then one would also read everything else with a loose interpretation.
otherwise, I think a person would be using "unequal weights", which the Bible says God doesn't like.
Islam has so much wrong about God and Scripture I wonder how any can say Muslims worship the same God 
Jackson and I had been going back and forth for many many pages!
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